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Post by Rex on Feb 5, 2021 20:36:32 GMT
Me too, this was my earliest rugby memory (along with that midweek rugby league knockout cup they used to show on the BBC in the 70s- what was that called?) As great as this try was, take a look at the attempted conversion that followed and indeed even Pullin's line out throw! Not forgetting the 3 or 4 yellow cards that would have been handed out for high tackles in this day and age... dirty All Blacks. Some things don't change (Sorry JeffNZ ). Many happy memories of watching Bristol RFC at the Memorial Ground in the 70's. I don't think it would be just the All Blacks who would be caught out by stricter refereeing these days Like football, it is open to debate whether things have changed for the better!
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Post by Rex on Feb 5, 2021 20:11:32 GMT
Yup - still gives me goose bumps. Me too, this was my earliest rugby memory (along with that midweek rugby league knockout cup they used to show on the BBC in the 70s- what was that called?) As great as this try was, take a look at the attempted conversion that followed and indeed even Pullin's line out throw!
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Post by Rex on Jan 30, 2021 19:12:36 GMT
Burnley v Brighton & Hove Albion 1-1 Newcastle United v Southampton 1-2 Bristol City v Cardiff City 2-1 Millwall v Sheffield Wednesday 1-0 Queens Park Rangers v Blackburn Rovers 0-1 Doncaster Rovers v Oxford United 2-1 Fleetwood Town v Bristol Rovers 2-0 Peterborough United v Crewe Alexandra 2-1 Salford City v Bolton Wanderers 1-1 Stevenage v Morecambe 0-1
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Post by Rex on Jan 30, 2021 7:50:09 GMT
I know absolutely nothing about betting but that list would seem to imply that the bookies at least have us in a kind of 2nd tier of relegation candidates rather than the 1st tier. It mean the punters, not the bookies, have us there. The odds reflect the amount of money staked, rather than an opinion. If you were to walk into a bookies tomorrow and place a million pound bet on Rovers to be relegated, then the odds would shorten dramatically as the bookie you placed the bet with, would try and cover any potential losses by betting on the same outcome with other bookies, who would, in turn, do the same.
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Post by Rex on Jan 27, 2021 15:43:08 GMT
Poor Brian. Once met, never forgotten. Rovers through and through.
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Post by Rex on Jan 17, 2021 16:56:30 GMT
AFC Bournemouth v Crawley Town 2-1 Millwall v Bristol City 1-2 Swansea City v Nottingham Forest 1-2 West Ham United v Doncaster Rovers 1-1 Queens Park Rangers v Derby County 2-0 Charlton Athletic v Swindon Town 1-1 Crewe Alexandra v AFC Wimbledon 0-1 Oxford United v Bristol Rovers 2-1 Cambridge United v Bradford City 2-0 Morecambe v Colchester United 1-1
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Post by Rex on Jan 13, 2021 10:41:16 GMT
You're right, it is a bit technical! I guess the gist of it is that an unarmed black suspect is no more likely to be shot than a white one. I am always a little suspicious of statistics and how they they are compiled, but I would be interested to know where those came from (I'm pretty sure you have mentioned them before) There certainly seem to be a disproportionate amount of black men caught up in America's judicial system. Now I can't believe for a second that you believe skin pigmentation makes you more likely to commit crime, so what do you think it could be?
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Post by Rex on Jan 12, 2021 19:34:06 GMT
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Post by Rex on Jan 12, 2021 19:06:39 GMT
The problem is, it was hardly a one off was it? Rex,the UK is not the 51st state,or 51st,52nd,53rd and 54th if you prefer. 4000 miles away. Yes,the US have big problems,many sad tales,but it's not ours. The jews in Nazi Germany weren't our problem either.
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Post by Rex on Jan 12, 2021 14:35:13 GMT
I am guessing that PP was expressing frustration on this issue, something I share. I was listening to the programme "The Life Scientific" this morning some professor with a background geological research. Chatting about his education he was joking about attending Manchester Uni because of the night club scene there. Anyway he was quite an interesting and amusing bloke so I paid attention. Out of the blue the host asked him if he had experienced any racial prejudice? I had no idea, listening to him that he was non white. But the interesting thing was his response. He said that overt, ugly racism had reduced over his time, but discrete racism was still rife. So, as long as minorities keep saying this then we need to keep calling it out. Whatever the circumstance. For the life of me I do not understand why people get so wound up by, when people chose, to highlight this issue. I really dont. Personally I am ambivalent about taking the knee, as Rex says its probably past its sell by date. But if football players want to do that, so what? Again, you are asking us to chase ghosts and the suggestion is that everybody is guilty. I'm confident that I speak for everybody on here when I say that we all stand against discrimination, but a starting point is to be able not only to recognise it, which you constantly fall short of being able to do, hence these continued implications of unconscious bias, but also we need to work out what we are going to do about it. What is it that you see in people of colour that convinces you that they aren't every bit as able as you and I to get out there and forge successful careers and lives for themselves? Yours is a message of mistrust and division. But I do know that you are so blinded by the light from your own halo of self proclaimed superior morality that you can't see this. What you argue for is equality of outcome, not equality of opportunity. Well, that's discrimination, right there. It's quotas over competence. Group Identity politics. We saw in the last century where that ultimately leads. Do your side of this debate never learn anything from history. Are tens of millions of bodies piled up not sufficient evidence that you are wrong? I hate to go down the 'I've got a black friend 'route, but for what it's worth she does still experience some blatant abuse- she works in the public transport and it seemingly just comes with the territory, the things that really upset her are that- and bear in mind she has never been in trouble with the police in her life- she is constantly followed around in shops by store detectives and shop assistants and - this is the one that really grates- if a middle aged white bloke gives his opinion in work, people tend to say that he 'tells it like it is'. When she does the same, she has been pulled up on her attitude and -on several occasions- been told she has a chip on her shoulder. Her dad came to the UK in the 50s and if he saw a policeman, he would disappear quick, because he knew if they saw him, he would be in for a hard time and he certainly thinks things have improved, but there is very definitely still some problems.
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Post by Rex on Jan 12, 2021 14:24:22 GMT
There you go I am sure Basel would support that I think football has made great progress regarding racism in the game. We've come along way since NF leaflets being handed out at Eastville. Becoming hysterical about the alledged murder of a junkie armed robber,by a Copper, in the USA,some 4000 miles away from our UK, is a backward step imo.The problem is, it was hardly a one off was it?
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Post by Rex on Jan 12, 2021 8:39:06 GMT
BLM. Robert Mugabe types. Not to be trusted an inch. I don't see the point in taking the knee before a football match in the UK, it is about as meaningful as standing outside your door to clap for the NHS. However, there is obviously a very real problem with how black suspects and white suspects are treated in the USA , as in a life or death problem. There are also plenty of other problems encountered by black people in the UK. BLM has become an organisation, but those people who first protested and used the chant 'Black lives matter' for the large part, were ordinary people who were outraged and scared and they had every right to be. If you think those people are 'Robert Mugabe types' then you are staggeringly off the mark. Do you think footballers taking a knee are supporting 'Robert Mugabe types' or do you think they are just appalled at the difference the way some US police treat black suspects?
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Post by Rex on Jan 11, 2021 12:19:13 GMT
This is the reason why MoTD is NEVER on in this house ,as if there was no other football outside this league,until about 4games from the end of the season and discuss who is likely to be promoted from the chumpionship I used to watch MOTD religiously. I honestly can't remember when I last put it on. I lost interest quite a few years ago. BBC punditry seems to have gone downhill. The eulogising of the premiership just grates. Part of the disenfranchisement of 'real supporters'. Perhaps behind closed doors and without any supporters, it highlights the relatively poor product. I can't even be bothered with Quest. I just watch Bristol Rovers on iFollow, Union Berlin highlights and the occasional Sabadell game on Youtube - that's it for me for the moment. Conclusion: Without an emotional connection to the soccerball, I can't be arsed. Pretty much how I feel. I can watch rugby as a neutral, but football I have to have that attachment to one of the teams.
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Post by Rex on Jan 11, 2021 12:17:18 GMT
Perfect outcome for me. I know I should want Rovers to win every game - and I did yesterday- but I would have been gutted to get a glamour draw that we couldn't go to. It was good to see we weren't scared to give it a go, hearing PT shout 'Stay up' at the players when we needed a goal was a breath of fresh air. It should be noted that that was a very strong Sheffield United line up and not the kind of weakened side many Premier League teams put out in this competition. Very disappointed in the MOTD coverage , they just focused on Sheffield United and how this result would help them in the league, barely mentioned us. Actually Dublin said Rovers were outstanding. Plus mystic Paul said he predicted 3 2! Yes I heard that, but that was about it, one word!
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Post by Rex on Jan 10, 2021 19:56:31 GMT
Here is the result of the Final of the 2020 Christmas Cup. Congratulations to the winner. The target for the penalty shootout was 14. Five Apples 4 v Paddingtongas 7 I think the teds result tipped the score in my favour, but hey I'll take it !!
Thanks RiversGas for organising Then you should hand back the trophy and make a full apology to us all.
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Post by Rex on Jan 10, 2021 19:55:35 GMT
West Ham United v Burnley 3-1 Aston Villa v Everton 1-2 Blackburn Rovers v Stoke City 1-1 Bristol City v Preston North End 2-1 Coventry City v Sheffield Wednesday 2-1 Bristol Rovers v Charlton Athletic 0-1 Fleetwood Town v Portsmouth 1-2 Peterborough United v Milton Keynes Dons 2-1 Stevenage v Tranmere Rovers 1-2 Walsall v Oldham Athletic 2-1
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Post by Rex on Jan 10, 2021 10:14:13 GMT
Ah well, Rex, that's MOTD for you - Premier focused and Premier obsessed. It was ever thus. I like Alex Scott but her total ignorance of Rovers was disappointing, leaving a one-liner from Dublin that Rovers "were magnificent". Hey ho. It wasn't just me that saw it like that then, I thought I may have been getting paranoid. I often hear presenters banging on about the magic of the cup, but the way they discussed the game made it seem like some kind of pre season friendly before the real stuff begins.
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Post by Rex on Jan 10, 2021 8:51:52 GMT
Perfect outcome for me. I know I should want Rovers to win every game - and I did yesterday- but I would have been gutted to get a glamour draw that we couldn't go to. It was good to see we weren't scared to give it a go, hearing PT shout 'Stay up' at the players when we needed a goal was a breath of fresh air. It should be noted that that was a very strong Sheffield United line up and not the kind of weakened side many Premier League teams put out in this competition.
Very disappointed in the MOTD coverage , they just focused on Sheffield United and how this result would help them in the league, barely mentioned us.
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Post by Rex on Jan 9, 2021 10:33:34 GMT
Pretty sure his record as manager at Oxford and Northampton was superb to against Rovers. Remember our last fa cup tie at the Mem against the blades they managed a comfortable 1 nil win. But no better time to beat them than Saturday. We lost 2-1. We were the better side in the first half and Dave Clarkson was the best player on the pitch - and we were in leading 1-0 at HT. They then proceeded to kicked Clarkson off the pitch 2nd half and scored a couple of goals. That's how I remember it anyway... I wasn't at the game, I was watching Dings at their old ground in Lockleaze, when Rovers scored we could hear the cheers.
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Post by Rex on Jan 6, 2021 15:13:30 GMT
I had the pleasure of seeing him in his one and only Old Firm game. He did a great job of talking himself up beforehand and many Rangers fans thought he could become their own version of their Bete Noire Scott Brown. I even saw a banner outside the ground proclaiming he was there to 'f**k up Fenians'.
Sadly 90 minutes of being run ragged and a 5-1 tonking meant I never got to saw the spectacle again. He lasted a whole 5 games.
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