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Post by Rex on Sept 13, 2020 7:51:38 GMT
We need a thumbs down button. I can email you articles on unconscious bias operating in all aspects of life; if you could be bothered to read them! Recently John Barnes, who seems to be the bete noire of the 'You can't say anything these days brigade' recently wrote on the subject and was , sadly unsurprisingly, subjected to the diatribes all over social media, particularly football forums including the normally 'right on' Celtic ones, a club of course, where he had a terrible time as manager. Those criticising him fell into that modern day trap of reading a headline , or a forum thread title , without actually bothering to read up on what the bloke wrote. On Celtic forums the twist tending to veer towards comments along the lines of 'He didn't get sacked because he was black, it was because he was s**te'. Yet in the article, Barnes acknowledged that his position at Celtic was untenable and he deserved the sack. I found it staggering and pretty heart-breaking, that despite several people pointing out what Barnes actually wrote, people still chose to stick with their original narrative. None of this is helped of course by much of the media who like to put their own little bit of spin on a story, knowing full well, they even if they tell bare faced lies. the worst that will happen is probably a minuscule apology tucked away in the small print. Barnes main point was that failed black managers don't get many other chances to prove themselves, whereas as white managers do and there is plenty of evidence to suggest that may be true. There is an unconscious bias at play, I am sure many of us have heard the -ridiculous- old one about black players not being able to perform in the cold, winter months and I even sat next to a Rovers plane on a plane once who told me who black players 'don't like being kicked' and when he played, he would always make sure he laid into any black players on the opposition! Even when I tried to remain civil and said 'I don't think anyone likes being kicked mate' he went into some bizarre theory about why having brown skin made you more susceptible to it! Luckily in the professional game there seem to be no such visible prejudices now . It also wasn't that long ago that the lack of Asians playing football was put down to the fact that 'they prefer cricket' , we know now this is also clearly a load of old bollocks Anyway, after all that, I don't think taking a knee will make a blind bit of difference, and I don't know what will. Let's just hope that one day people will be judged fairly and not on their skin tone or what school they went to ( I think the latter one may be the main stumbling block!)
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Post by Rex on Sept 12, 2020 22:20:19 GMT
I don't think there is any point at all in 'taking a knee'. However, Bambi, not for the first time, is arguing for the sake of it. I don't agree with quotas and I don't know the answer, but we all know that black managers are under represented in the game, just as black players were in the 70s.
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Post by Rex on Sept 12, 2020 17:03:52 GMT
I'm pleased that I'm disappointed we only ended up with a point
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Post by Rex on Sept 12, 2020 10:09:58 GMT
Crystal Palace v Southampton 2-1 West Ham United v Newcastle United 0-1 Bristol City v Coventry City 2-1 Huddersfield Town v Norwich City 0-1 Preston North End v Swansea City 2-2 Crewe Alexandra v Charlton Athletic 1-3 Doncaster Rovers v Milton Keynes Dons 2-1 Sunderland v Bristol Rovers 1-3 Southend United v Harrogate Town 1-0 Walsall v Grimsby Town 1-1
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Post by Rex on Sept 11, 2020 7:00:42 GMT
Hardly surprising, the way this forum is these days. I find I can't be bothered opening many threads - the majority always seem to turn out the same way no matter what the opening post might be about. I still lerk in the background, not getting into politics again but do Not trust the owner. An attack on the dr just seems to be an all time low.All the best for this season, whilst I enjoying non league football and spending time with the family. Really? I know the Dr pretty well and if he wants to leave that's up to him, but he started the thread with a jibe at 'you lot' so was always going to get a bit of stick for that. Anyway, the lanky T**t never gets his round in and even walks to football to save petrol money and avoid giving lifts. We're better off without him
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Post by Rex on Sept 10, 2020 6:16:55 GMT
An old chestnut I know. But wouldn't ex players be better off becoming referees. Rather than managers. They know the game inside out. I understand the problem with allegiances but surely that could be resolved. I suspect most prefer the option of being able to slate the referee from the the safety of a pundit's chair rather than have to actually go and do the job themselves. Many 'poor' refereeing decisions would resolve themselves if players stopped cheating and managers stopped encouraging them to cheat.
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Post by Rex on Sept 7, 2020 10:30:40 GMT
Feel free to contribute with thoughts of your own. At a fraction of just over 1 post a year , you must be composing a belter I thought his criticism was unfair. He should try writing incoherent negative babble, day after day after day, it takes a toll.How about us poor sods who have to read it!
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Post by Rex on Sept 7, 2020 10:10:05 GMT
Another pathetic post I do despair with u lot Feel free to contribute with thoughts of your own. At a fraction of just over 1 post a year , you must be composing a belter
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Post by Rex on Sept 6, 2020 18:12:51 GMT
Extended contract when we go unbeaten for rest of season.It doesn't help when staff look at forums and they see this negative rubbish. Well let's hope you're right. I agree that negativity can have a pretty poisonous effect . However, all the evidence so far suggests that simply 'getting behind the lads' isn't really going to produce the desired result. I really, really, hope that Garner turns things around, I've seen nothing so far to suggest he knows how to do that. I did miss the Sunderland game, which , by all accounts, was impressive, so let's hope we can see a few more performances like that one, but it does need to start happening soon.
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Post by Rex on Sept 6, 2020 13:16:09 GMT
We haven't even had one league game of a brand new season and look at this thread. Embarrassing. I think the nature of forums does tend to make them very much 'feast or famine' and I do find that frustrating. Having said that, Garner has been here for a while now and his record is- and this is putting it mildly- very poor. I hope he turns it around, normally I would say a manager deserves at least one whole season, but so poor is Garners record, if we are bottom 4 going into November, I won't be sorry to see him go.
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Post by Rex on Sept 5, 2020 8:31:58 GMT
The one's who don't make it usually end up at clubs like Rovers anyway. The player interviews are awash with London accents. Not often you hear a Bristolian one among them. I see us emulating the likes of Peterborough by grabbing young talent and selling it on at a profit. Londoners are tougher and more streetwise too. I'm pretty sure they are no more or less tougher or streetwise than anyone else
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Post by Rex on Sept 5, 2020 6:07:25 GMT
Let me know, via PM if appropriate, what John says. So, you would promote a less able Female candidate over and above a more qualified Male candidate when, as Anne has already pointed out, there's nothing gender specific in the SC constitution, and those are the rules under which you have been nominated. Or are you simply saying that you will broadcast the fact that the position is available to Females as well, in the hope that the outstanding candidate is in fact a Lady? Your last point exactly. It should be advertised properly, not that a fans director position is available, but have specifics required for the role. There is little point in appointing gender/race/religion/sexuality over competence as that just causes problems for the organisation when someone is clearly out of their depth. But say there was an successful, entrepreneurial female gashead who’s enthusiastic for the role and has something positive to offer then that should absolutely be taken up by the SC in preference to a similarly qualified male. For example, having a female SC Director could be instrumental in improving and promoting and growing BRFC ladies. The organisation has an excellent record in appointing people out of their depth.
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Post by Rex on Aug 31, 2020 10:45:13 GMT
The guy more or less kept us up single handedly the season before last. Last year he had a very disjointed with injuries that have dogged him his whole career returning. To get that return for a guy with his injury record is a decent outcome for us I think. I don't think he was particularly suited for the more up tempo style of play Garner seems to want to impose. As ever someone/some people will have to score the goals though or the 'project' could be in jeopary quite quickly. I don't honestly think he was ever considered part of Ben's project, though you couldn't ignore the impact he could have had. We will see who comes in and what kind of player they are, would surprise me if they are in the same mould as JCH. I liked how JCH was very different to so many other strikers we have signed in the recent past, That whole scoring goals thing did it for me.
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Post by Rex on Aug 29, 2020 10:39:13 GMT
I missed the first deadline and was going to renew by tomorrow's second deadline. Apart from the 'It helps the club' argument, could anyone tell me what advantage it would be for me to renew?
As I read it, if limited supporters are allowed in this season, priority will go to those who bought before the first deadline and although no one know for sure, it does seem it will be a while before another batch of supporters would be allowed in after that.
I have had a season ticket for decades, but this is the first time, I'm wondering whether it's worth it or not. I don't blame the club for this btw, but I am struggling to see any advantage for me to renew,
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Post by Rex on Aug 27, 2020 9:13:00 GMT
Why when people can't actually pay to go watch their team live is it still fair to charge overseas iFollowers £5 and home iFollowers £10? I understand the higher UK price in normal times as it discourages local people from attending, particularly on a wet and windy day or night. I think it should be the same price regardless of country until fans are allowed back into stadia. You can of course use certain services that make it seem like you're watching from Finland and pay the cheaper price but most people won't know how to set this up and may feel that they're stealing a fiver from the club. Some might invite a friend round to watch, charge them £5 saying we'll go halves mate and then pull the Finland trick and watch it for free Because fairness was never part of the equation.
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Post by Rex on Aug 26, 2020 9:09:04 GMT
On occasion- not always- Bambi makes some good points and argues them well. I just get the feeling that if we ever all got together for a bit of a chat and a laugh before a game , someone would have to read out a pre prepared statement from him telling us why we shouldn't be meeting , drinking and laughing. It would be a bit like that episode of Blackadder where Edmund's Puritan aunt & uncle come to stay The online persona is not always a good way to judge. All I can add is BG is a very decent human being. There are many who can seem foolly when using a pseudonym but who are totally different in reality My tongue was firmly in cheek and although I don't know Bambi in 'real life' I'm pretty sure he realised that.
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Post by Rex on Aug 25, 2020 5:38:45 GMT
On occasion- not always- Bambi makes some good points and argues them well. I just get the feeling that if we ever all got together for a bit of a chat and a laugh before a game , someone would have to read out a pre prepared statement from him telling us why we shouldn't be meeting , drinking and laughing. It would be a bit like that episode of Blackadder where Edmund's Puritan aunt & uncle come to stay
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Post by Rex on Aug 19, 2020 16:32:59 GMT
It's a good job they do the first round as a north/south thing to stop excessive travelling
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Post by Rex on Aug 17, 2020 21:16:20 GMT
I was hoping recent events might have seen the end of this competition.
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Post by Rex on Aug 14, 2020 8:01:08 GMT
Eye of the beholder, each to their own and so on. He defo got results and it can be argued that is everything in football. I wish him well, but time to put our faith and hope into BG. Absolutely agree,I will be cheering BGs team on,no doubt about that.Ben had nothing to do with GCs exit. The 'passing game' Gasheads got their way,from El Presidente to the terraces but it appears to of been at the expense of a genuine promotion chance.A high price to pay,especially as so far BG has failed regarding results and any style on the field of play. "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" but some can see beauty in different styles of the game. GC did a fantastic job,we could now be looking forward to a 2nd tier season.That is a perfectly realistic view.He did not deserve to be sacrificed at the alter of the glorious "passing game". As Paul Trollope use to say "we are where we are" (where is PT?) and as I 'said' I'll be cheering on the BG Rovers. I have always loved seeing underdogs out perform 'better' teams and maybe that's why I liked GC so much. I was pretty s**t myself, but I shall always remember playing in the lower reaches of the Bristol & District in a team that had some very good players (some who became semi pro) and their mates (people like me), we struggled for results and an older bloke form the pub who was half decent and hard as nails offered to join and got us promotion (my only ever honour in football) One of his early team talks remains with me to this day . 'I'll kick that **** there and that **** over there, they won't want to know it. Nige, take advantage of that, Rex & Andy , try and not get in the way' I like to think I played my part.
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