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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 30, 2024 10:17:14 GMT
I too am fortunate enough not to need it. I know some who do need it but also many who don't. A number I know have given it to charity to help others. Mine went straight back into supporting British industry. Well, the cider producing part of it, anyway. Alf, good to see you back on here. Life under the Tories appears to have been good for you, as you've progressed from sipping Toilet Duck while sat on the park bench, to cider !
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 30, 2024 10:13:22 GMT
Bloody hell, has this forum dropped far enough down the evolutionary scale to start quoting fairy stories!
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 30, 2024 9:51:29 GMT
Nobody supporting Labour has mentioned dropping the Social Care legislation?
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 30, 2024 9:46:33 GMT
See why do people insist on lying about him. How is he a Irish citizen? Stephen Yaxley Lennon was born in Luton, his father is English and is mother is Irish, he holds two passports Why do people completely lie about this man to fit their narrative. He holds two passports. So he is an Irish Citizen and a British Citizen. When he has been charged previously he has claimed to be an Irish Citizen. He uses his Irish Citizenship to allow him to live in Tenerife without having to adhere to the 180 day rule limit. So yes he IS an Irish citizen, it is not a lie..... and there is nothing wrong with that. I have many friends who hold British and German passports. My son has a British and a German passport. It is perfectly normal. Just what is your point?
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 30, 2024 9:41:10 GMT
OAP's to lose Winter Fuel Allowance. 22% pay rise for Junior Doctor's. Next up in the budget will be the raid on Pensions. We shall see. Did you support the Liz Truss budget that forced a crash in market confidence, rising interest rates and has left millions of people having to find hundreds if not thousands of pounds each per month to meet mortgage payments. Should they also pay for the £20bln? Less well off pensioners on benefits still get the payment. How would you fill a £20bln black hole out of interest, Nobby? There is no 20 million Black Hole, and I am surprised at the both of you, who are politically savvy, to have fallen for this blatant lie. The OBR, the IFS and even the Treasury knew nothing about this apparent Black Hole. The government finance books are transparent, and have been for many years. Don't you find it strange that Labour have just "discovered" this Black Hole when they had full access to the Books for years'? Wouldn't you have thought this would have been political dynamite during before the election? No government could 'hide' 20 billion from the Treasury. It's just not possible. Be serious. Liz Truss did not force the rise in Interest Rates. This happened Globally. Do you support cutting the Infrastructure improvements, like Railways, Roads and Hospital's? Seriously, are you saying that it was a bad thing for the Tories to be building another 40 hospitals and you support this Labour government in binning that?
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 30, 2024 9:25:21 GMT
Nobby/France Ooooops "Two years ago the "bean counters" at the UK's top economic institutions were just about to come directly into the line of fire. Liz Truss’ Conservatives were plotting a full frontal attack on the Treasury and the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR), planning to sack the bosses of the former and abolish the latter altogether. Things have now come full circle. Treasury officials effectively penned a 20-page blame-sheet, cataloguing spending anomalies, as ammunition for the new chancellor, launching her own broadsides in parliament on Monday. Then just after Rachel Reeves published her audit of spending, external, the OBR released a letter, external. The independent forecasters were unexpectedly backing up - in public - the chancellor's central contention that she was left a dire fiscal inheritance. The OBR clearly does suspect that there was a large hole left in the public finances before the election. Just how black that hole is depends on whether you think the government really had any choice over its acceptance of 5-6% pay settlements for public sector workers. But that aside, the OBR has made clear there were billions of pounds of spending pressures that it did not know about when preparing its last forecast in March. The spending was only revealed to them last week, the letter said, and given the “seriousness of the issue” the OBR has launched a review into the March forecast to assess the “adequacy” and “assurances” provided by the Conservatives." Well well Link to the source?
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 30, 2024 8:58:05 GMT
Under 18 years old so in theory won't be named. And Starmer wants to give 16yr olds the vote. I think Labour put the brakes on this stupid idea after the recent EU elections across Europe. In many countries, the young vote went to the parties on the Right. The assumption that young voters would vote for the Left didn't quite ring true. This trend surprised many and in my opinion is why Labour dropped it as policy. If giving 16 year old's the right to vote was the right thing to do, then it should be done. However, it is obvious politicians see this policy just as a way to get more votes for themselves, so in reality, it is not the right thing to do is it !
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 30, 2024 8:53:40 GMT
It's only been a matter of weeks, but the Labour fiscal policy is already starting to leak! I cannot believe that people are defending the Labour government over this ! "Ms Reeves was taken to task by LBC’s Nick Ferrari, who accused the Government of pinching money from the elderly to pay for huge public sector pay increases. He also confronted her over the humiliating revelation that her Treasury deputy, Darren Jones, wrote a letter to Jeremy Hunt in November 2023 demanding confirmation that the Tories were not planning to remove the Winter Fuel Allowance.
Mr Jones fumed just half a year ago: “Pensioners mustn’t be forced to bear the brunt of Tory economic failure.” Daily Express
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 30, 2024 8:21:47 GMT
Hew Edwards - Now, if I did anything that brought my Company's name into disrepute, I'd be sacked. Anything I did/said etc that may cause Reputational Damage to my company would result in dismissal. No if's, no but's, I'd be out on my ear.
How on earth has this sick individual not been sacked by the BBC? and for the BBC to give him a 40k pay rise just last week is just unbelievable.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 30, 2024 8:15:09 GMT
It really is quite laughable that Labour are now attempting to claim that the Tories overspent on Roads, Railways and Hospital's, yet all we have ever heard from Labour is that the Tories cut everything ! "Rachel Reeves insisted that she had to plug what she called a £22 billion hole in public spending and put the blame squarely on the Tories. Claim: The Conservatives made promises even though they knew they didn't have enough money REALITY: The single biggest 'unfunded spending commitment' supposedly identified by Rachel Reeves was £9.4 bn-worth of above-inflation pay rises for teachers and other public sector workers. Chancellor Rachel Reeves has claimed that there is a £22bn shortfall in the public finances and has said that thirteen years of Conservative stewardship are to blame The new Government has decided to reward public sector unions which help fund the party, and to blame the Tories for the pain this will cause taxpayers Labour made blood-curdling claims about the situation the Conservatives left them. Here's the TRUTH Yet the previous Conservative government had made no commitment to meet the 5.5 per cent pay rises recommended by the pay review bodies. It is Reeves's own decision to stump up the money. The Chancellor's somewhat flimsy argument is that the previous government didn't give the pay review bodies guidance as to what could be afforded – and so she has no choice but to meet their recommendations. But she could simply have told the unions that there's no money. IRRESPONSIBLE SPENDING BY THE CONSERVATIVES: Claim: Rishi Sunak's government made irresponsible commitments to spend money on roads, railways and hospitals. Now those spending promises must be cut back Reality: Reeves says that the Tories have overspent this year by £1.6 bn on the railways, by £250m on buses and have failed properly to fund the 40 new hospitals they have promised. Projects to re-open old rail lines will be chopped back and road schemes – including the A303 Stonehenge tunnel and the A27 Arundel bypass in West Sussex – will be cancelled. Yet a few months ago, Reeves was blasting the Tories for not spending enough on infrastructure. Rachel Reeves has blamed predecessor Jeremy Hunt for Britain's economic woes. She has claimed that the Conservatives overspent this year by £1.6bn on the railways alone While Labour has decided to blame the Conservatives and Rishi Sunak, only a few months ago they were blasting the Tories for not spending enough on infrastructure 'If we want to spur investment, restore economic security and revive growth, then we must get Britain building again,' she told the Labour Party conference. 'The single biggest obstacle to building infrastructure, to investment and growth … is the Conservative Party itself.' WORST SET OF ECONOMIC CONDITIONS SINCE WW2: Claim: The new Government has inherited the worst set of economic conditions since World War II Reality: This is quite a statement given that inflation stood at 10.3 per cent when Margaret Thatcher became PM in 1979 – and had been nearly 30 per cent at times during the preceding Labour government. While inflation has been high over the past couple of years, it is now down to two per cent – the Bank of England's target. The employment rate for people of working age is now at 75 per cent. It was only 70.4 per cent when David Cameron became Prime Minister in 2010. Claims that Britain is in a worse predicament than at any time since WWII are quite a statement given that that inflation stood at 10.3 per cent when Margaret Thatcher became PM in 1979 It is true that government debt as a share of Gross Domestic Product (the size of the economy) is at its highest since the early 1960s. But the public finances are clearly in better shape than when Labour's Gordon Brown left office in 2010 with a budget deficit equivalent to 7.3 per cent of GDP. This year, it will be close to 3 per cent. Of course, Reeves failed to mention the biggest single reason why government borrowing has been so high in recent years: the worst pandemic in a century, requiring many billions to be pumped into the furlough scheme and other measures to save people from losing their jobs. Labour supported such spending at the time. Now Reeves wants us to forget about Covid and blame everything on Tory mismanagement." You have a link to the publication that was taken from? Yep Daily Mail
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 30, 2024 8:14:08 GMT
Not all OAP's had the benefit of "25 rip roaring years in the City" as you did. Taking money from OAP's with a modest pension to fund massive pay rises for Public Sector workers is not right. How can anyone support that? Why personalise it? Anyway The money has to come from somewhere and we cannot keep charging younger people evermore. As I understand it the allowance is still available for those on Pension Credit, that is those who really need it. Personalise it? You said you'd be happy to give up your heating allowance. I was just pointing out that there many many other OAP's out there who did not have the benefit of your working life, which you have discussed quite openly on here. In many ways your attitude is "I'm ok Jack, so feck the rest of them!".
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 30, 2024 8:09:14 GMT
It really is quite laughable that Labour are now attempting to claim that the Tories overspent on Roads, Railways and Hospital's, yet all we have ever heard from Labour is that the Tories cut everything !
"Rachel Reeves insisted that she had to plug what she called a £22 billion hole in public spending and put the blame squarely on the Tories.
Claim: The Conservatives made promises even though they knew they didn't have enough money
REALITY: The single biggest 'unfunded spending commitment' supposedly identified by Rachel Reeves was £9.4 bn-worth of above-inflation pay rises for teachers and other public sector workers.
Chancellor Rachel Reeves has claimed that there is a £22bn shortfall in the public finances and has said that thirteen years of Conservative stewardship are to blame
The new Government has decided to reward public sector unions which help fund the party, and to blame the Tories for the pain this will cause taxpayers
Labour made blood-curdling claims about the situation the Conservatives left them. Here's the TRUTH
Yet the previous Conservative government had made no commitment to meet the 5.5 per cent pay rises recommended by the pay review bodies. It is Reeves's own decision to stump up the money.
The Chancellor's somewhat flimsy argument is that the previous government didn't give the pay review bodies guidance as to what could be afforded – and so she has no choice but to meet their recommendations. But she could simply have told the unions that there's no money.
IRRESPONSIBLE SPENDING BY THE CONSERVATIVES: Claim: Rishi Sunak's government made irresponsible commitments to spend money on roads, railways and hospitals. Now those spending promises must be cut back
Reality: Reeves says that the Tories have overspent this year by £1.6 bn on the railways, by £250m on buses and have failed properly to fund the 40 new hospitals they have promised. Projects to re-open old rail lines will be chopped back and road schemes – including the A303 Stonehenge tunnel and the A27 Arundel bypass in West Sussex – will be cancelled.
Yet a few months ago, Reeves was blasting the Tories for not spending enough on infrastructure.
Rachel Reeves has blamed predecessor Jeremy Hunt for Britain's economic woes. She has claimed that the Conservatives overspent this year by £1.6bn on the railways alone While Labour has decided to blame the Conservatives and Rishi Sunak, only a few months ago they were blasting the Tories for not spending enough on infrastructure 'If we want to spur investment, restore economic security and revive growth, then we must get Britain building again,' she told the Labour Party conference. 'The single biggest obstacle to building infrastructure, to investment and growth … is the Conservative Party itself.'
WORST SET OF ECONOMIC CONDITIONS SINCE WW2: Claim: The new Government has inherited the worst set of economic conditions since World War II Reality: This is quite a statement given that inflation stood at 10.3 per cent when Margaret Thatcher became PM in 1979 – and had been nearly 30 per cent at times during the preceding Labour government. While inflation has been high over the past couple of years, it is now down to two per cent – the Bank of England's target. The employment rate for people of working age is now at 75 per cent. It was only 70.4 per cent when David Cameron became Prime Minister in 2010. Claims that Britain is in a worse predicament than at any time since WWII are quite a statement given that that inflation stood at 10.3 per cent when Margaret Thatcher became PM in 1979 It is true that government debt as a share of Gross Domestic Product (the size of the economy) is at its highest since the early 1960s. But the public finances are clearly in better shape than when Labour's Gordon Brown left office in 2010 with a budget deficit equivalent to 7.3 per cent of GDP. This year, it will be close to 3 per cent. Of course, Reeves failed to mention the biggest single reason why government borrowing has been so high in recent years: the worst pandemic in a century, requiring many billions to be pumped into the furlough scheme and other measures to save people from losing their jobs. Labour supported such spending at the time. Now Reeves wants us to forget about Covid and blame everything on Tory mismanagement."
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 30, 2024 6:44:34 GMT
OAP's to lose Winter Fuel Allowance. 22% pay rise for Junior Doctor's. Next up in the budget will be the raid on Pensions. As a beneficiary of the £300 winter fuel allowance I totally agree with dropping it. Also I would welcome a proper appraisal of the "Triple Lock's...not the political football type Not all OAP's had the benefit of "25 rip roaring years in the City" as you did. Taking money from OAP's with a modest pension to fund massive pay rises for Public Sector workers is not right. How can anyone support that?
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 29, 2024 19:52:20 GMT
OAP's to lose Winter Fuel Allowance. 22% pay rise for Junior Doctor's. Next up in the budget will be the raid on Pensions.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 29, 2024 15:23:29 GMT
Labour to offer the Junior Doctor's a 22% pay rise. Now expect a flood of similar demands from others sectors/unions. This will not help control inflation. The cost of the disputes to the NHS was far in excess of the amount that such a rise would have cost. The last Government wanted to keep the disputes going as they then had someone to blame for the increasing waiting lists, as they did do. The health of the nation is important to productivity and the economy. It make sense to keep the NHS going, to fill vacancies by attracting people to the job, hence speeding up consultancy appointments, surgical operations, rehabilitation etc and get sick people back to work. Most sick people want to get back earning. Increasing waiting lists from 2 million in total in 2010 to over 7.5 million in May 2024 has been severely damaging to the economy. The plan to force people to go private hasn't worked and the people who have promoted a USA style system while themselves investing in those private companies like Sunak, Hunt, etc have failed the country. "The plan to force people to go private hasn't worked and the people who have promoted a USA style system while themselves investing in those private companies like Sunak, Hunt, etc have failed the country." - Nobody but nobody has promoted a health system like in the US. That really is just Project Fear all over again. "The cost of the disputes to the NHS was far in excess of the amount that such a rise would have cost." - What about the cost to the country as more unions will now threaten strike action, knowing that the government will cave in. That will damage the economy and force up inflation, affecting us all. The NHS will not improve one iota because of this pay deal, and we all know it. Defence has a Strategic Review every few years. It's about time we had a Strategic Review of the NHS !
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 29, 2024 11:47:06 GMT
Labour to offer the Junior Doctor's a 22% pay rise. Now expect a flood of similar demands from others sectors/unions. This will not help control inflation.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 29, 2024 9:39:21 GMT
You seem to have forgotten it was the drawing of a cartoon that led to a whole office of workers having their heads blown off in Paris, so yes, it is a very valid point in that this depiction of Christianity would never have seen the light of day if the target was Islam! I really do not see the need to make a false equivalence between a French designed Olympic opening ceremony which take the piss out of a painting which depicted a mythical gathering over a meal, with the extremes of the Whahabbi lunatics. It's all a bit strange to be honest. Do you think the Charlie Hebdo terrorists were 'Whahabbi"?
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 29, 2024 7:59:36 GMT
I can't answer that question as I'm not the one offended. My only beef with it is they wouldn't have done it against Islam. My father committed suicide 14 years ago,Im ok with having a laugh about that as you have too.. Ive also got a Miro penis..😆 again, I can joke about that.Im a a Rovers fan and can even joke about that also! 😂 But some people are offended by certain subjects, and the Christians are clearly offended by it and that's their right to be. I've got hard skin and a weird sense of humour so nothing really offends me but when it comes to religion some people don't. For me it's all about balance, and it was done as the Bible was an easy target and they "thought" they could get away with it. But, you said "It was a piss take and should be call out as such." Why would you say that? As I see it the predominant religion in France is Christianity, of the Catholic variety. The ceremony in question was in Paris, choreographed and designed by the French themselves. As free country with a long history of art and culture including free thinking, it seems to me they were taking the mickey out of themselves. All power to them. But of course you get the reactions of the Christian Jihaddists in America who, just like the Whahabbi Jihaddists in Islam, are so insecure they try and ban everything and want to punish anyone who disagrees with them. We need to resist this. You seem to have forgotten it was the drawing of a cartoon that led to a whole office of workers having their heads blown off in Paris, so yes, it is a very valid point in that this depiction of Christianity would never have seen the light of day if the target was Islam!
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 26, 2024 13:08:59 GMT
Not in denial Oldie, just being realistic and honest. The honest truth is Trump is a convicted Felon and it will be overturned on appeal, as the original case was not conducted properly by the Judge, plus the charges will be shown to be illegal as a District Court tried to convict someone of a Federal Offence, which they can't do.......and once again the Dems will hand even more votes to Trump. It keeps happening and Trump is the only one who wins.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 26, 2024 12:13:46 GMT
Oh stop it Oldie. It was a 'misdemeanor' as you well know and it will be overturned by the Supreme Court for a number of reasons, Is everyone in the UK convicted of speeding a 'felon' in your eyes? You in denial Nobby? "When a New York jury found former President Donald J. Trump guilty of 34 counts of falsifying business records in the first degree, it was historic for a number of reasons. The guilty verdicts represent the first-ever criminal conviction of a former president, and they make Trump the second person to campaign for president as a convicted felon." Not in denial Oldie, just being realistic and honest.
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