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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 8, 2024 10:09:27 GMT
So, we have this new Labour Government, elected on the promise of 'change'. We all know that the promises they made were not backed up with any detail as to how they would implement those promises, so from now on we have to examine, scrutinize and discuss their efforts.
The first one I will throw out there is the building of 1.5 million new homes in their first five years. Well, we know from official figures that on average 150,000 new homes are built every year, so over five years that would be 750,000 homes. In fact, last year saw about 200,000 being built. Therefore, Labour are actually promising to build 750,000 more new homes in the next five years. It's a bit of a white lie to claim 1.5 million isn't it.
However, governments do not build homes. Private companies do. Did anyone from Labour ask the builders if they could double their current output?
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 8, 2024 10:22:47 GMT
Jacqui Smith has been brought back into government as an Education Minister. As she is not an elected MP she will be made a Life Peer by Starmer.
The very same Jacqui Smith who claimed her husband's porn watching hobby costs through her expenses.
The same Jacqui Smith, who was one of the highest ranking swindlers caught by the expenses scandal, where she claimed the spare bedroom in her sister's house in London was her main residence, and the family home in Redditch was her 'second home'. At this time she was the Home Secretary.
One to watch.
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Post by baselswh on Jul 8, 2024 10:30:03 GMT
Ha!
Scrutiny before the mutiny!
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Post by oldie on Jul 8, 2024 11:33:43 GMT
So, we have this new Labour Government, elected on the promise of 'change'. We all know that the promises they made were not backed up with any detail as to how they would implement those promises, so from now on we have to examine, scrutinize and discuss their efforts. The first one I will throw out there is the building of 1.5 million new homes in their first five years. Well, we know from official figures that on average 150,000 new homes are built every year, so over five years that would be 750,000 homes. In fact, last year saw about 200,000 being built. Therefore, Labour are actually promising to build 750,000 more new homes in the next five years. It's a bit of a white lie to claim 1.5 million isn't it. However, governments do not build homes. Private companies do. Did anyone from Labour ask the builders if they could double their current output? We shall see. The new government have indicated that one of the primary blocks to house building (any new infrastructure building in fact) has been planning regulations. So they have vowed to overhaul those regs. And, employ more planning officers to facilitate applications. As for the non private sector building Andy Burnham in Manchester has indicated they are ready to build social housing up there at scale. |
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Post by francegas on Jul 8, 2024 15:41:46 GMT
So, we have this new Labour Government, elected on the promise of 'change'. We all know that the promises they made were not backed up with any detail as to how they would implement those promises, so from now on we have to examine, scrutinize and discuss their efforts. The first one I will throw out there is the building of 1.5 million new homes in their first five years. Well, we know from official figures that on average 150,000 new homes are built every year, so over five years that would be 750,000 homes. In fact, last year saw about 200,000 being built. Therefore, Labour are actually promising to build 750,000 more new homes in the next five years. It's a bit of a white lie to claim 1.5 million isn't it. However, governments do not build homes. Private companies do. Did anyone from Labour ask the builders if they could double their current output? No doubt they will claim all houses currently under construction and those developments about to commence within those figures. No way will they achieve 1.5 million new homes in the first 5 years. |
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Post by trymer on Jul 8, 2024 16:22:27 GMT
Although I agree with all thats been said on the thread so far (Jacqui Smith ffs) one good thing Sir Keir has done is not giving that smug,condescending tub of lard Emily Thornberry a top job....got to give him credit when its due I doubt that I will have many good things to say about him/them over the next few years.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 10, 2024 13:52:36 GMT
Here's one to watch... "Miatta Fahnbulleh, new MP for Peckham, who is constantly billed as a “rising star” in the Labour Party and has been immediately promoted as an energy minister. Despite spending all of five days as an MP… Fahnbulleh is formerly head of the capitalism-sceptic New Economics Foundation which, under her leadership, advocated nationalisation of banks and creation of new “green” banks with taxpayer funds. On top of that would be a block on private banks lending to anyone with a “large amount of greenhouse gas emissions” and “penalisation of banks that provide too many carbon-intensive loans”… The minister, who has been advising Ed Miliband, has personally spent much of the last two years calling for even more and higher windfall taxes on oil and gas producers, and, even more worryingly, the creation of large nationalised energy companies to “flood the market“, accompanied by the introduction of “free basic energy” for everyone. Guido looks forward to seeing the costings for that one…" Here we go |
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Post by oldie on Jul 10, 2024 14:24:25 GMT
Here's one to watch... "Miatta Fahnbulleh, new MP for Peckham, who is constantly billed as a “rising star” in the Labour Party and has been immediately promoted as an energy minister. Despite spending all of five days as an MP… Fahnbulleh is formerly head of the capitalism-sceptic New Economics Foundation which, under her leadership, advocated nationalisation of banks and creation of new “green” banks with taxpayer funds. On top of that would be a block on private banks lending to anyone with a “large amount of greenhouse gas emissions” and “penalisation of banks that provide too many carbon-intensive loans”… The minister, who has been advising Ed Miliband, has personally spent much of the last two years calling for even more and higher windfall taxes on oil and gas producers, and, even more worryingly, the creation of large nationalised energy companies to “flood the market“, accompanied by the introduction of “free basic energy” for everyone. Guido looks forward to seeing the costings for that one…" Here we goThe NEF has some interesting funders |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2024 15:26:08 GMT
So, we have this new Labour Government, elected on the promise of 'change'. We all know that the promises they made were not backed up with any detail as to how they would implement those promises, so from now on we have to examine, scrutinize and discuss their efforts. The first one I will throw out there is the building of 1.5 million new homes in their first five years. Well, we know from official figures that on average 150,000 new homes are built every year, so over five years that would be 750,000 homes. In fact, last year saw about 200,000 being built. Therefore, Labour are actually promising to build 750,000 more new homes in the next five years. It's a bit of a white lie to claim 1.5 million isn't it. However, governments do not build homes. Private companies do. Did anyone from Labour ask the builders if they could double their current output? No doubt they will claim all houses currently under construction and those developments about to commence within those figures. No way will they achieve 1.5 million new homes in the first 5 years. Have to agree with you on this one France , just the lack of tradesmen will make this a non starter. Wonder why we’ve got a lack of tradesmen…… anyone got any ideas why ? |
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Post by trymer on Jul 10, 2024 16:25:57 GMT
No doubt they will claim all houses currently under construction and those developments about to commence within those figures. No way will they achieve 1.5 million new homes in the first 5 years. Have to agree with you on this one France , just the lack of tradesmen will make this a non starter. Wonder why we’ve got a lack of tradesmen…… anyone got any ideas why ? Yes,because too many British school leavers go to University and get a degree which is useless to them career wise,they have no skills so they can only get unskilled work,if more of them did apprenticeships there would be more skilled tradesmen and the individuals wouldnt have student debt and they would earn enough to get on the housing ladder...still they had their'university experience' so lucky them. |
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Post by trymer on Jul 10, 2024 16:31:04 GMT
I heard the armed forces minister being interviewed on Radio 4 this morning,tbf most of what he said sounded reasonable, one thing that I would query is why a strategic review takes a year ? I suppose these blokes work very short days and have very long lunches.
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Post by oldie on Jul 10, 2024 18:03:11 GMT
I heard the armed forces minister being interviewed on Radio 4 this morning,tbf most of what he said sounded reasonable, one thing that I would query is why a strategic review takes a year ? I suppose these blokes work very short days and have very long lunches. I feel that way. But we are talking huge amounts of money here and given the darkening skies we live under this hopefully is an opportunity to get this right. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2024 21:16:22 GMT
Labour progress to the final 🏴 !
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Post by baselswh on Jul 10, 2024 22:08:34 GMT
Labour progress to the final 🏴 ! Nearest you'll get to rejoining. 🏴🇬🇧🏴🇬🇧 |
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Post by trymer on Jul 11, 2024 18:30:53 GMT
I heard the armed forces minister being interviewed on Radio 4 this morning,tbf most of what he said sounded reasonable, one thing that I would query is why a strategic review takes a year ? I suppose these blokes work very short days and have very long lunches. I feel that way. But we are talking huge amounts of money here and given the darkening skies we live under this hopefully is an opportunity to get this right. Yes it needs to be done,lets hope when it is done they reach the correct conclusions. The armed forces minister mentioned cyber warfare, space,drones etc,he said that warfare has changed quickly over the last 5 years. I can see each infantry platoon having a drone, more shoulder fired AT missiles, less tanks....some kind of dedicated department that fights cyber warfare ? |
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Post by oldie on Jul 11, 2024 18:42:25 GMT
I feel that way. But we are talking huge amounts of money here and given the darkening skies we live under this hopefully is an opportunity to get this right. Yes it needs to be done,lets hope when it is done they reach the correct conclusions. The armed forces minister mentioned cyber warfare, space,drones etc,he said that warfare has changed quickly over the last 5 years. I can see each infantry platoon having a drone, more shoulder fired AT missiles, less tanks....some kind of dedicated department that fights cyber warfare ? I believe that exists |
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Post by trymer on Jul 11, 2024 18:54:56 GMT
Yes it needs to be done,lets hope when it is done they reach the correct conclusions. The armed forces minister mentioned cyber warfare, space,drones etc,he said that warfare has changed quickly over the last 5 years. I can see each infantry platoon having a drone, more shoulder fired AT missiles, less tanks....some kind of dedicated department that fights cyber warfare ? I believe that exists The anti cyber warfare dept ? maybe they will enlarge it,seems to be a huge threat, imagine all the flight control computers going down,or all the banks at the same time,we rely far too much on computers now. Went in the Post Office today,my mate wanted get some cash but it was 'sorry everythings gone down' not saying that the Russians were responsible this time. |
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Post by baselswh on Jul 13, 2024 6:35:14 GMT
Labour.
Thousands of prisoners are to be released before serving their sentence. This to make room.There will be violent prisoners released early.
What can possibly go wrong.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 13, 2024 6:59:16 GMT
Labour. Thousands of prisoners are to be released before serving their sentence. This to make room.There will be violent prisoners released early. What can possibly go wrong. This is the most ridiculous thing I think I have heard.. From what I read that includes the man that was the leader of a Islamic rape gang up north.🤬🤬 |
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Post by baselswh on Jul 13, 2024 7:17:25 GMT
Labour. Thousands of prisoners are to be released before serving their sentence. This to make room.There will be violent prisoners released early. What can possibly go wrong. This is the most ridiculous thing I think I have heard.. From what I read that includes the man that was the leader of a Islamic rape gang up north.🤬🤬 They might go tough on him Ice. Regular games of'ping pong' for a fortnight,with a couple of walks across the Brecon Beacons.Just to make sure he's learnt his lesson. Knife crime,guns,assault etc. Prisoners that have committed these violent crimes will be considered for release. The probation services will struggle to watch them. The Labour woman claims this must be done more face a complete collapse of law and order in the UK.Sounds like a threat. This is a disgrace and of course it will result in injury and death for some poor people caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. |
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