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Post by crater on Jul 12, 2021 11:59:23 GMT
You have completely missed the point. Maybe re-read, digest and understand the earlier points raised? It would be a good starting point if you want to debate the relevant issues. The issue is, we've been handed clear pathways to 2 finals, one we took, the other we failed at the semi-final stage, we've won nothing, despite having all the money and supposedly the best League in the world in which to nurture talent. Southgate is, I've been told, making outlandish claims about how the game went last night, that's an insult to anybody who watched what happened and knows anything at all about football. 35% possession in a home game against a team who themselves managed 30% possession against Spain. We are miles off of competing with top teams. No point trying to make me the focus with questions such as asking for my suggestion about who should replace him, he has to go or it's just going to be repeat, re-set, repeat and so on. But sat behind that, the people making the decisions to employ people like him would, if they had a shred of self respect or self awareness, resign as well. Still, let's look ahead and take a broad view. I trust that everybody on this forum will join me in demanding that our national team boycott the World Cup in Qatar, a country with a diabolical human rights record and which openly discriminates against females, where homosexuality is illegal, I could go on, but I'm sure you are already aware. The thing being, if there's a sufficient issue domestically for our players to be protesting before every game, they should surely point blank refuse to play in Qatar. In my opinion, Southgate's failings were highlighted last night for all to see. I don't, however, think that tearing everything up and starting again is a sensible approach to take. That said GS had to learn big lessons from the final, in particular and learn those lessons fast. Re Qatar...your argument would have greater merit if you also said companies shouldn't trade with Qatar or that there shouldn't be any diplomatic ties with them. Once you go down this road you also have to include F1, golf, tennis, the list is endless and include many other nations who commit similar acts to the ones you have described. So a boycott of the England national football team, acting alone and in isolation from the rest of the world, of the Qatar world cup whilst Luke Westwood 3 putts in Saudi or Andy Murray double faults in China or Lewis drives his fast car in circles in Turkey and companies still trade is not something I would support. It is unfair to expect the England national football team to single handedly hold the moral compass for the rest of the world
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Post by crater on Jul 12, 2021 10:50:28 GMT
Sarcastically saying that GS will be pleased with himself adds nothing of any value to this conversation. Yes, be critical over tactics, selection etc but offering an opinion on how someone will be feeling today is plain daft. As is harping on about his club management, which is of little consequence to his career today as an international manager. Football is full of managers who didn't cut it at club level but achieved relative success internationally and vice versa. Out of interest who in your opinion should be Southgate's replacement? This is what happens when someone says something that you know is right but you don't want to admit it. He's messed up horribly, twice. No good trying to spin it around to make me the focus here. This isn't even so much on Southgate, he's just a failed manager and a 'yes man' who has had endless media training, the issue is the people running our game, and this isn't a new problem. So, in your opinion I can select any failed club manager and tell you that he/she is the person for the England job as failure at club level is of 'little consequence' to someone's career as an international manager. OK then, let's give that bloke Benny whatever his name was who 1982 had about a decade ago a spin, he was useless, but according to you it doesn't matter. Now that argument is 'plain daft' I'm afraid. You have completely missed the point. Maybe re-read, digest and understand the earlier points raised? It would be a good starting point if you want to debate the relevant issues.
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Post by crater on Jul 12, 2021 10:13:46 GMT
I think someone's a bit tired Rather than blame me for pointing out that Southgate is a failure as a manager, and always has been, why don't you demonstrate that he didn't get Middleborough relegated, then as a reward get employed by England, or that I'm not correct to point out that when the laughably incompetent FA had to get rid of a corrupt manager after 1 game in charge (they paid him a million pounds to end his contract) they elevated Southgate despite him having managed his age group to bottom place in their European group? This is how our game is run. We have all the money, all the resources, but are run by idiots. Southgate got a lesson in how to manage a football game last night, will he learn anything? I very much doubt it, he'll be too busy feeling pleased with himself for having thrown away a second opportunity to win a major tournament. In fact, just been told that he's said this morning that England controlled long periods of the game. That may explain stuff, he wasn't even at the right game! Sarcastically saying that GS will be pleased with himself adds nothing of any value to this conversation. Yes, be critical over tactics, selection etc but offering an opinion on how someone will be feeling today is plain daft. As is harping on about his club management, which is of little consequence to his career today as an international manager. Football is full of managers who didn't cut it at club level but achieved relative success internationally and vice versa. Out of interest who in your opinion should be Southgate's replacement?
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Post by crater on Jul 11, 2021 22:33:33 GMT
Gave Italy far too much respect by changing formation and not matching up against them. Created virtually nothing and Donnaruma had little to do in the 120 minutes. They would have been fearful of our pace and our attacking threat but in truth they had little to worry about. We sat deep after the fantastic start and basically had 5 defenders. We were inviting pressure and Southgate needed to change things as an equaliser was coming but he acted too late. We have made strides under Southgate and it's stupid to call for his head. Also, rankings mean very little, with some international sides arranging easier opposition friendlies to boost their ranking points. No reason to get too concerned by rankings. Disappointing as we lost without giving ourselves the best chances of winning the game.
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Post by crater on Jul 6, 2021 13:13:37 GMT
Where's the decimal point?
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Post by crater on Jul 3, 2021 21:21:14 GMT
Why would an Italian want to talk about football coming home to the country that gave it to the world? You would think, having done that for them, the least they would do in return is have the good manners not to punch the ball into our goal and to award us goals where the ball has crossed the line by a good foot. You do know that football was created in Scotland? You're mixing football up with golf and the Highland Games
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Post by crater on Jul 3, 2021 10:22:20 GMT
Anyone know the Italian for football's coming home?
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Post by crater on Jun 26, 2021 18:21:59 GMT
Denmark now go to Baku Wales now go Baku home
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Post by crater on Jun 24, 2021 20:45:55 GMT
Definitely on the easier looking side of the draw...
Get past Germany and then It's football's coming Rome in the quarter finals!!
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Post by crater on Jun 21, 2021 20:58:51 GMT
If he hadn't got injured I think we would have had a fighting chance of staying up. Definitely hold on to him I say as a fit and firing SN gives us a better chance of bouncing straight back, even if that means he leaves on a free in 12 months
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Post by crater on Jun 21, 2021 20:53:47 GMT
yay!! we've definitely qualified for the knock outs after today's results... decent point against the scots that
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Post by crater on Jun 20, 2021 9:28:48 GMT
Maybe next season we'll have a 'proper' defence
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Post by crater on Jun 19, 2021 19:39:11 GMT
Not that I have to justify myself to anyone, but the "arrogant twats" comment was aimed at much of the media, the fans who believe the "coming home" garbage and a number of the players. Not at Gareth Southgate though. He's a class individual. Out of interest, who in the media and which players were acting arrogantly? Not so sure many fans believe 'football's coming home', whatever that actually means, it's just a catchy tune...does every Scot actually actually believe they can boogie?
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Post by crater on Jun 19, 2021 12:45:09 GMT
Very little created by England but good to get that game done and out of the way... A draw was a fair result but why didn't VAR look again at the penalty claim when Robertson brought down Sterling? Looked a nailed on penalty to me. Somehow I suspect if that had been the other way around, the media would have banged on about it but nothing said as it was a decision against England
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Post by crater on Jun 15, 2021 17:24:07 GMT
Always appeared his heart wasn't in it. Seeing the manager that sold the club to you and promised you the captaincy and whatnot fail miserably might knock a man's confidence. Still a pro though...his performances were average at best. Seemed to me he was weak and JB just wouldn't want a weak player around so best for both parties
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Post by crater on Jun 15, 2021 14:42:11 GMT
Discounting the hardliner Rangers/ Celtic take on it, i've never understood why the majority of Scotish fans want the England football team to fail, when most of the England fans want Scotland to do well. Obviously, 99% of Gas fans will always want City to fail whatever the circumstances and City via versa. Does anyone have the answer as to why we have a soft spot for Scotland but its not reciprociated? UTG and ENGLAND! Because England didn't qualify in 74 and 78 and Scotland did maybe? If those years coincided with a young kid getting into football perhaps it still shapes their thinking today? Personally I am always happy to see them get beat and the same goes for Wales
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Post by crater on Jun 13, 2021 15:13:20 GMT
Decent performance by England.Some good youngsters,shame the x Yate player was'nt at Rovers. I think it a good tactic when Sterling and Foden came infield as they were not getting much joy outside this in 2nd half. The Leeds midfielder,Phillip's,excellent! Agree, good to start with a win and we'll be a team that is feared as we carry a constant goal threat. Didn't look like the Croatia of old though, maybe time has caught up with them.
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Post by crater on Jun 12, 2021 19:24:56 GMT
Our batting has been atrocious for too long now... A combination of poor technique and getting themselves out
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Post by crater on Jun 12, 2021 19:05:35 GMT
The top 10 rankings from FIFA are: Belgium, France, England, Portugal, Spain, Italy, Denmark, Germany, Swiss & Croatia. Belgium look like favourites with a formidable squad inc: De Bruyne, Hazard, Lukaku, Tielemans, Mertens & Courtois. I am rating England as the dark horses (let's hope we are still in it after 2 games). Would not like to be in the group of death F, Germany, Portugal, France & Hungary. I don’t know how they put together those rankings and how Belgium would be first. When did they last make it to even a semi final in any international competition ? It looks very far from reality & I’d like to know the parameters which they use, to come to this conclusion. Last world cup, lost to France and beat England in the 3rd/4th place match
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Post by crater on Jun 9, 2021 9:54:24 GMT
Italy to win it
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