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Post by baselswh on Jun 18, 2021 14:08:49 GMT
Apparently Lewis has been dropped from a charity match because he tweeted something sexist.
I hav'nt seen the offending tweets.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2021 15:26:58 GMT
Lewis needs guiding through life. Banning him from a charity match isn't something that I would have done to help him see the error of his ways (if he has done wrong).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2021 16:11:53 GMT
Lewis needs guiding through life. Banning him from a charity match isn't something that I would have done to help him see the error of his ways (if he has done wrong). Lewis withdrew because of the grief I was getting . I didn’t ban him and nor did I want to. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2021 21:11:04 GMT
Lewis needs guiding through life. Banning him from a charity match isn't something that I would have done to help him see the error of his ways (if he has done wrong). Lewis withdrew because of the grief I was getting . I didn’t ban him and nor did I want to. Well done and good luck with the event. I hope Lewis attends on the day. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2021 11:59:17 GMT
Hard to know what's acceptable and what's not sometimes.
We have people being banned and de-platformed left right and centre, yet last night on this forum we have this written;
with it not being clear if it's aimed at England players, their supporters, the media or someone else, and nobody seems to bat an eyelid. Can you imagine if this were directed towards certain groups in society, all Hell would break loose.
I don't even understand the rules any more.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Jun 19, 2021 12:51:17 GMT
Hard to know what's acceptable and what's not sometimes. I don't even understand the rules any more. Sorry to clip your quote but wanted to address the points. The Mods tend to allow the forum to self regulate as most posters are able to articulate and argue their points quite adequately. Some people do sail close to the wind though. We generally moderate proactively if something is blatantly libellous or could be openly classed as hate speech by any reasonable or right minded person (I believe that is the legal term but stand to be corrected) Otherwise we are reactive in response to complaints of which we don't get many. We discuss complaints amongst us as we have wide ranging viewpoints and if posts need moderating or an active response then generally Epping will respond on our behalf. Whatever his own personally held views I believe he has played a 'straight bat' when a response is needed. If you or others feel something genuinely breaks the rules or is racist, homophobic, hate speak or whatever please do complain. Always happy to debate points of order! Regards Cheshire |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2021 13:24:01 GMT
Not that I have to justify myself to anyone, but the "arrogant twats" comment was aimed at much of the media, the fans who believe the "coming home" garbage and a number of the players.
Not at Gareth Southgate though. He's a class individual.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2021 13:42:09 GMT
Hard to know what's acceptable and what's not sometimes. I don't even understand the rules any more. Sorry to clip your quote but wanted to address the points. The Mods tend to allow the forum to self regulate as most posters are able to articulate and argue their points quite adequately. Some people do sail close to the wind though. We generally moderate proactively if something is blatantly libellous or could be openly classed as hate speech by any reasonable or right minded person (I believe that is the legal term but stand to be corrected) Otherwise we are reactive in response to complaints of which we don't get many. We discuss complaints amongst us as we have wide ranging viewpoints and if posts need moderating or an active response then generally Epping will respond on our behalf. Whatever his own personally held views I believe he has played a 'straight bat' when a response is needed. If you or others feel something genuinely breaks the rules or is racist, homophobic, hate speak or whatever please do complain. Always happy to debate points of order! Regards Cheshire I wasn't criticising the moderation on this forum, it was about what's acceptable and what's not in general. Robust conversation is good, we shouldn't have to read each post multiple times and consider whether or not it may have the potential to upset or offend. If Grant genuinely believes that there are that many English people who feel superior to their Scottish counterparts then that's his burden to deal with, all I see is banter given and taken in good spirit with a small number of morons letting both sides down whilst the majority just enjoy the event and rivalry and wish we had the Home Internationals back so that we could experience it every year. I see we now have an attempt at justifying what was written, but my point remains, just try writing that about certain groups in society and no explanation whatsoever will be accepted. |
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Post by swissgas on Jun 19, 2021 18:01:35 GMT
Would singing “Bristol City, Bristol City, you’re not fit to wipe my arse” now be considered a hate crime ?
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Post by crater on Jun 19, 2021 19:39:11 GMT
Not that I have to justify myself to anyone, but the "arrogant twats" comment was aimed at much of the media, the fans who believe the "coming home" garbage and a number of the players. Not at Gareth Southgate though. He's a class individual. Out of interest, who in the media and which players were acting arrogantly? Not so sure many fans believe 'football's coming home', whatever that actually means, it's just a catchy tune...does every Scot actually actually believe they can boogie? |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jun 19, 2021 22:23:18 GMT
Would singing “Bristol City, Bristol City, you’re not fit to wipe my arse” now be considered a hate crime ? It starts with someone making an issue of something then others jump onboard and it becomes viral in nature and if you voice a different opinion, you get torn a new one. The joys of modern life eh. So many virtue signallers too |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2021 22:36:22 GMT
Would singing “Bristol City, Bristol City, you’re not fit to wipe my arse” now be considered a hate crime ? No but gasheads singing the only good city fan is one that's dead has always made me cringe. |
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Post by a more piratey game on Jun 19, 2021 23:23:37 GMT
Would singing “Bristol City, Bristol City, you’re not fit to wipe my arse” now be considered a hate crime ? No but gasheads singing the only good city fan is one that's dead has always made me cringe. Understandable, but there is a panto element to it At least there is to normal humans |
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Post by womble on Jun 20, 2021 0:33:27 GMT
Would singing “Bristol City, Bristol City, you’re not fit to wipe my arse” now be considered a hate crime ? Surely not? A supportive comment from a ‘critical friend’ would be the perfect defence. |
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Post by baselswh on Jun 20, 2021 6:02:56 GMT
Would singing “Bristol City, Bristol City, you’re not fit to wipe my arse” now be considered a hate crime ? We have people trying to stop free speech, to suit their pathetic right on,overtly pc, woke political points of view. Bunch of rotters. GB News is under attack from these assholes already.The new station has a segment called something like 'Woke Watch'.Exposing these assholes.Worth watching, it shows this not just a 'small thing', but a genuine attack on free speech from organised groups. Bugger em. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2021 10:11:57 GMT
No but gasheads singing the only good city fan is one that's dead has always made me cringe. Understandable, but there is a panto element to it At least there is to normal humans Oh no there isn't.....  |
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Post by Cheshiregas on Jun 20, 2021 10:28:16 GMT
Would singing “Bristol City, Bristol City, you’re not fit to wipe my arse” now be considered a hate crime ? We have people trying to stop free speech, to suit their pathetic right on,overtly pc, woke political points of view. Bunch of rotters. GB News is under attack from these assholes already.The new station has a segment called something like 'Woke Watch'.Exposing these assholes.Worth watching, it shows this not just a 'small thing', but a genuine attack on free speech from organised groups. Bugger em. Basel just for me and the few others who don't get what you mean can you kindly define 'woke'. I am also keen to know what is so 'British' about a TV show that is fronted by a tax exile [Andrew Neil] and funded by billionaire tax exiles. The same people who backed Brexit but took their businesses and money to Monaco, Singapore and other such 'British' places. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2021 11:26:54 GMT
Oh dear, I see we have someone upset that there's now a news channel that puts forward a different point of view.
If it's examples of hypocrisy we're looking for then where should we start? I know it's not particularly close to home, but as we've had riots on these shores in the name of something that happened in America, let's start there.
Maya Wiley, US loud mouth and ''Civil rights activist''. Wealthy, successful black lady, won't shut up about subjects such as defunding the Police. So, hires her own security yet wants to remove law enforcement on the streets where the people she claims to care about live.
It's a tiny minority that act this way but they are given a huge amount of coverage and are treated with undue respect by the media. If Neil's new channel stands up to them and exposes them then it's all good by me.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Jun 20, 2021 13:13:52 GMT
I'm certainly not upset at all TWD and I know there is hypocrisy in all walks of life. Or are you saying I am not allowed to ask questions about this Great British TV Channel? Do you think a news Channel and for that matter other media outlet centres in the UK lauding the virtues of being British should be paid for by people who have demonstrated what they think of the UK by leaving it and taking all of their money with them so pay no tax to contribute to our society?
I also genuinely want to know what Bas means 'woke'.
It's an insult thrown about by GB news and the Daily Mail amongst others very regularly but no one has been willing or able to explain to me what it means to them. Or are you saying I don't have the right to ask?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2021 13:27:44 GMT
I'm certainly not upset at all TWD and I know there is hypocrisy in all walks of life. Or are you saying I am not allowed to ask questions about this Great British TV Channel? Do you think a news Channel and for that matter other media outlet centres in the UK lauding the virtues of being British should be paid for by people who have demonstrated what they think of the UK by leaving it and taking all of their money with them so pay no tax to contribute to our society? I also genuinely want to know what Bas means 'woke'. It's an insult thrown about by GB news and the Daily Mail amongst others very regularly but no one has been willing or able to explain to me what it means to them. Or are you saying I don't have the right to ask? I said no such thing and it's an overly defensive attempt at trying to make me accountable for something that has nothing to do with me. Sounds as if you want to sever all contact and influence with and by anybody who takes advantage of legal offshore tax arrangements. Well, congratulations, you will have just shut down one of Bristol's largest independently owned employers and made the thick end of 2000 people redundant. But I doubt that Mr Lansdown would worry too much, he'll never be able to spend the money he's made. Of course there will be a hit to Bristol businesses as those people are no longer spending, and to the exchequer as they aren't paying tax. Wael will have to restructure our football club as well. I'll wager a hefty sum that you take advantage of your tax allowance, assuming you haven't retired that is, so only pay the tax that you legally have to, so why shouldn't others operate within the law to minimise their contribution to the exchequer? If you aren't happy with that speak to your MP, don't attack people acting perfectly legally. Of course you don't have to utilise that tax allowance, or you can pay more tax if you want to. Just send HMRC a cheque, they'll cash it. Would you like the address to send your contribution on to? |
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