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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 13, 2024 7:50:37 GMT
Labours council house policy puts Britons behind immigrants in the queue. Absolutely disgusting. Are you sure? "A spokesman for the Ministry of Housing told the Sunday Telegraph: 'The vast majority of councils have already adopted local connection tests and 90 per cent of social homes go to UK nationals. 'Those who do not have a right to stay in the UK are already not eligible for social housing.' " Let's turn your figures around. If 90% go to UK nationals, then are you saying that 10% go to migrants? What is the percentage of migrants in the country v UK nationals? This sounds like a disproportionate amount of social housing goes to migrants!
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 13, 2024 7:35:39 GMT
Please stop referring to other posters as 'loonies'. You are the first to start crying when you feel someone has called you something. Grow up. All you do is create bad feeling. Right...how would you describe those that would undermine our system of justice by demanding we name and shame before due process and fair trial? Sentient beings? If you don't understand what you are doing then nothing I say will change things, but as my old Dad always told me, "good manners cost nothing".
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 12, 2024 18:09:24 GMT
Modern Britain......why does a TWG Teashop need a Security Guard?
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 12, 2024 18:06:52 GMT
Why? What is gained by announcing a name before being charged? No reasonable person thinks we should...apart from the loonies Please stop referring to other posters as 'loonies'. You are the first to start crying when you feel someone has called you something. Grow up. All you do is create bad feeling.
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 10, 2024 2:30:58 GMT
If there is to be a trial, then I presume he pleaded "not guilty". He should get a longer sentence then, as he is as guilty as hell.
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 9, 2024 22:34:51 GMT
Also is it a case where Ukrainian military,after their " western style training" is now bearing fruit in places,now begining to outhink the aggressor,and causing panic reactions on their side... The NATO doctrine says that ground assaults cannot win unless we have air superiority. The Ukes have never had this, which is one of the main reasons their offences have had limited results. We do not know how many F-16's have been delivered, but maybe the Ukes are now in a position where they could have air superiority in a limited area. Where they choose that area to be will be crucial. One of the main reasons the Kursk offensive is successful is that the Ukes have broken through the two main defensive lines of the Russians. Now they are in a mobile situation, which is something the Russians cannot handle due to the structure of their Command & Control. Russian commanders on the ground have to constantly refer decisions upstairs. This delays any action or reaction. Junior commanders in Russia are not trusted, and this goes back to the times of the Revolution. I do not believe the Kursk offensive will run for much longer, nor penetrate much deeper into Russia for one simple reason. Logistics! Amateurs like to talk about strategy, but military experts will talk about logistics (by the way, I am no expert!). The flow of weapons, ammunition, food, water and men are vital. The deeper they go into Russia, the more difficult this becomes. If you check my posts right at the beginning of this thread you will read that I said the Ukes need mobile warfare. The slow, steady, bogged down warfare only suits the Russians with their superior number of weapon systems ie. Artillery and men. I do not know what the strategic objectives of the Kursk attack is meant to achieve, but the Ukes have got to the situation where the Russians are scrambling and are having to make quick decisions on the ground, which is something they are incapable of. The Russians are reacting whereas the Ukes are being Proactive. Interesting times.
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 9, 2024 20:30:33 GMT
I think as has been suggested this attack by the Ukes is an attempt to draw Russian troops away from areas where they were pressuring the Ukes. I think that this could cause a big upsurge in the war. Someone suggested to me that maybe there are peace talks either happening or going to happen soon and that the Ukes want to look like they're in a strong position. Or how about it's a distraction for something else......an assault on the Crimea? In recent weeks the Ukes have been hammering Air Defence throughout the Crimea. Or were the attacks on AD in the Crimea a distraction for the Kursk assault? Sometimes it's like a game of chess with deadly consequences.
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 9, 2024 20:19:44 GMT
Have you ever been shot at? If so, you wouldn't be calling him a drama queen ! As someone who has been shot at, not sure if you have been injured Nobby, but do you think the wound which has healed amazingly quickly was consistent with that of a bullet hitting his ear? I have never seen someone who have had a bullet clip their ear, so I don't know.
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 9, 2024 17:21:24 GMT
Two Russian troop columns have been totally wiped out. Both were Battalion sized units moving in convoy in the back of soft top lorries. From the videos it looks as though the were both hit with HIMARS. The giveaway is the amount of holes in the soft tops of the vehicles. Don't go looking for the videos as there are a lot of dead bodies on display. Whatever your thoughts on the Russian leader and hierarchy, it is bloody sad that 000's of young men and women with their lives ahead of them are being wiped out to satisfy the vanity and lust for power and land of a nasty bitter old man. Sadly that's mostly what war is about! Totally agree, but you have to hope that by fighting the war you will be stopping further misery being inflicted on greater numbers of people in years to come, just as our youth did in WW2.
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 9, 2024 13:10:12 GMT
Two Russian troop columns have been totally wiped out. Both were Battalion sized units moving in convoy in the back of soft top lorries. From the videos it looks as though the were both hit with HIMARS. The giveaway is the amount of holes in the soft tops of the vehicles. Don't go looking for the videos as there are a lot of dead bodies on display.
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 9, 2024 10:38:17 GMT
ive seen people with more damage to their ears after an ballsed up ear piecing than this guy who has been shot at ...talk about drama queen!! Have you ever been shot at? If so, you wouldn't be calling him a drama queen !
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 9, 2024 8:39:02 GMT
This is developing into THE foreign news story at the moment, but it doesn't get a mention in the UK MSM.
Ukraine are still making huge territorial gains. The Russians don't appear to have very much in the area to stop them. As predicted, when the Ukes do find a strong Russian unit, then just by-pass them and leave them surrounded. Nobody is sure what the strategic aim is of the Ukes at the moment but they must have something in mind.
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 8, 2024 14:16:04 GMT
Oh I forgot. Labour Councillor Ricky Jones, after suggesting we should cut the throats of people he considers Nazi,then led chants of "FREE FREE PALESTINE! " You could be a completely unpolitical person,bought yourself a new England shirt and while strolling down to the pub,get your throat slit ,by one of these fanatics ,triggered by your England shirt. That's a very worrying thought and terrible if such a thing were to happen. I suppose it helps us understand how black and brown skinned people have been feeling lately every time they step out of the house. What a time we live in. Some guy got sent down for two years for something he posted on Facebook. This guy should have been arrested by now. He's actually inciting murder ! If he is not arrested and sent down it will only add fuel to the two-tier accusations. and WTF does the Free Free Palestine chant got to do with anything!
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 8, 2024 12:25:59 GMT
Not official figures Terry. The official figures from Sweden, Denmark and Germany all show the same thing. The UK government refuses to publish it's figures. Plus your cut & paste seems to concentrate only on asylum seekers. Illegal immigrants are included in the report figures for asylum seekers and the reports are based on Government figures. As soon as they land and claim asylum they are then included. It has been the policy of the last Tory Government to do so and it is only recently that the term 'illegal immigrants' has been adopted in the UK by a change in the law. As most of those seeking asylum now arrive by the Channel boats, it is therefore appropriate to include most if not all as Asylum seekers. To me a criminal is a criminal whatever the background. Sorry Terry, but the UK government refuse to release any crime figures relating to migrants! To suggest reports are based on government figures is just wrong.
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 8, 2024 12:23:44 GMT
What evidence do you have for that Terry? Do you mean about the riots influencing the decision - I was responding to Trymer's comment implying it was. Or the fact that the Supreme Court makes its decision by it's interpretation of UK law, because that is how the system works..... My apologies. I misinterpreted your words.
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 8, 2024 12:21:54 GMT
You talk about rumours Terry, but an awful lot of people fell for last night's rumour didn't they? Who started it? The government, the Police, the MSM? One interesting point is that when you look at the photos this morning in the media, at every location in the country where people came out, they were all carrying identical placards. These had to be funded, wood purchased, printed off, nailed together and then distributed throughout the country, all within a couple of days. Somebody somewhere was aware of what they were doing. Why oh why are you obsessed with where Farage is? Parliament is on it's summer recess. He can go wherever he wants to. Farage is one actually calling for the recall of Parliament! Starmer is off on holiday on Saturday, and he's the PM ! Just what is your point?Nobby, The 'rumour' about last night was started by the posting on Telegram of a list of migration legal offices and circulated over a number of days by people such as Katie Hopkins and others who favour right wing tropes. I am sure much of what appeared last night was coordinated following the riots earlier in the week. It is logical that they have had plenty of time to get it sorted and that there would be a counter movement. Many MPs did a lot of work in their constituencies setting up offices, meeting local people to introduce themselves, holding surgeries, etc prior to the recess. Even the Secretary of State for Health has held a number of surgeries for constituents and he's a busy chap. In fairness to Farage, apart from Lee Anderson who was already an MP, the other Reform Party Ltd MPs haven't bothered either. I just find it amazing that he can fly around the world even before the recess and you [apologies if you don't] and others seem to be happy to defend him to the hilt, even though he freely admits to spreading the initial rumours, and says he fully 'understands' the riots by implication condoning them. He has a job on GB News which he has been happy to do, he shot straight off to the US to defend Trump [who wouldn't even see him], and shows little desire to serve his constituents. So why not call him out? Terry, are you saying that an anonymous post on Telegram is credible evidence? You are aware that Telegram is not a credible social media platform? Call him out? He's one of the few calling for a recall of Parliament! The last time Parliament was recalled was during the withdrawal from Afghanistan! Don't you think that the internal problems in the UK are more important? As for 'understanding' the riots and therefore by implication condoning them, I can only say Oldie used the exact same language during the kill the bill riots in Bristol !
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 8, 2024 11:52:47 GMT
Link? I am interested as to how you come up with these figures as the UK government refuse to release crime figures regarding many grants. The Migration Observatory at the University of Oxford has studied global reports on the effect on crime and any rise. This is a summary below which includes analysis. Note that the people who came from Europe, that some were desperate to get rid off, actually cause a fall in crimes per capita as they were mostly people who wanted to work. The crime rate does raise by a small percentile for asylum seekers mainly for property crime not violent crime [as some claim], and it was noted that this is driven by the fact that they are not allowed to work, the process is lengthy and they have reduced access to support. Perhaps if they were allowed to work, which would also reduce accommodation costs, that would have a positive effect. The share of asylum seekers in the local population is related to a 1.1% rise in property crime but no change in violent crime. A rise in A8 migrants as a share of the population is associated with a 0.4% fall in property crime and has no relationship to violent crime
Bell et al. (2013) examine local crime patterns in England and Wales from 2002 to 2009 in order to determine whether there is any causal effect of an increase in the foreign-born population on crime. They focus on two large groups of migrants that arrived in the UK over this period. First, asylum seekers arising initially from the dislocations in former Yugoslavia and subsequently from war-torn societies such as Iraq and Afghanistan. Second, the large migrant flows coming from the A8 countries, particularly Poland, since 2004. The research showed that it is possible to derive causal estimates for both migrant groups and found that the share of asylum seekers in the local population was related to a rise in property crime, while a rise in A8 migrants was associated with a fall in property crime. Neither group was associated with statistically significant changes in violent crime. Estimates suggest that a one percentage point increase in the asylum seeker share of the local population is associated with a 1.1% rise in property crime. Since asylum seekers accounted for only around 0.1% of the population, the macro effects were small. A one percentage point increase in the share of the population that was born in the A8 countries leads to 0.4% fall in property crime.
Bell et al. (2013) suggest that the estimated effects for asylum seekers and A8 migrants may be the result of differences in the labour market opportunities of the two groups. The A8 migrants who arrived in the UK came almost entirely for work reasons and have higher employment rates than the UK-born. The motivation of asylum seekers was different, and they are not allowed to work in the UK upon arrival and also have reduced access to welfare benefits. Given the lengthy process involved in deciding asylum applications, this restriction is likely to have increased the relative returns to crime.migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/immigration-and-crime-evidence-for-the-uk-and-other-countries/Not official figures Terry. The official figures from Sweden, Denmark and Germany all show the same thing. The UK government refuses to publish it's figures. Plus your cut & paste seems to concentrate only on asylum seekers.
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 8, 2024 11:49:23 GMT
"The majority rules" - Unfortunately, they don't.
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 8, 2024 11:32:45 GMT
You have obviously missed earlier posts. The way the UK legal system works Bas, if you plead guilty, you can be sentenced at the first court meeting. If you plead innocent the Police and CPS have to gather evidence and build a case. That's what is happening in the Manchester and it can take a long time. Proper judicial system Some would prefer a public lynching...due process? Pahhh Ah, so in this thread it's a 'proper judicial system' with 'due process' while on the Begum thread you back Cheshire's claim that it's not ! Once again the word hypocrite jumps out !
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 8, 2024 11:29:45 GMT
A bit of bad luck for her with the timing,I expect they were going to let her come here until the riots started. Interesting that the courts were influenced by riots. Nothing to do with the law then... What evidence do you have for that Terry?
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