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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2014 22:02:30 GMT
It would be sad, if it were true astafjevs. But I can assure you that nothing is further from the truth. I clearly didn't make my point as well as I had hoped to. You did make your point very well, astafjevs just couldn't be bothered to read all of it Bollocks.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2014 22:05:55 GMT
Oh dear.... Not sure I want any part of this world we are currently living in. Text messages to tell on people? ? Isn't the world a miserable enough place without having some horrible sod hanging on your shoulder waiting for you to slip up so they can get you in trouble. What's next being reported for swearing? I get it and i agree racism is a horrible thing but this is going way to far. Many people I stand near make the odd racist joke, everybody has done it on occasion. I wouldn't like to see any of my friends that I've been standing by for years being reported and banned. You all act so high any mighty but at the end of the day you are all just cowards who wouldn't have the balls to call someone racist to their face and tell them they are in the wrong. I originally decided to not touch this topic with a 10 foot barge pole but this is getting ridiculous...... This world is vile. Don't count me in as 'everybody' has done it on occasion. I have never posted before but felt so incensed that you seem to think that racism is acceptable that I had to register. On the West Terrace I don't hear racist comments but if I did, I know that I would have to say something. This is 2014 not the 1970s, as someone who has spent 20 years in the Armed forces I find it offensive that I have been protecting your right to 'free' speech. Your comment is offensive and unacceptable; I hope you retract it. Thanks for saying that. I'm glad someone called it out. He sure as hell doesn't speak for me either. And the talk of 'it's a horrible thing but this is going too far' and 'slip-ups' put that sweeping 'everybody' in its context. It's like a so-say recovering crack addict who pays lip service to what people say but isn't that convinced of the merits of not smoking crack - 'a little bit's okay - no need to get obsessive about it.' ...and then follows that up by getting stroppy about anyone pointing out it's them in the wrong, not the people they're discriminating against, as if that made it all alright. Jeez.
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Post by brizzle on Oct 23, 2014 10:10:25 GMT
Has anybody heard anything of this matter recently?
Considering the uproar that it caused at the time, not only locally but also on national television and in national and local newspapers, it all seems to have gone a bit quiet. I was expecting that at the very least someone would have been arrested on suspicion (or even for questioning), or possibly even charged by now. Have the football authorities had anything to say after receiving the referee's match report I wonder?
BRFC did their bit as they saw fit at the time with the red card business, but I was expecting some action by some authority or other by now. After all it was a terrible slur on the club, which seems to be just hanging over us.
But the question is, did I miss any announcements by anyone?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 23, 2014 10:23:50 GMT
Has anybody heard anything of this matter recently? FA
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Post by brizzle on Oct 23, 2014 12:42:40 GMT
Has anybody heard anything of this matter recently? FA Thanks for that. I'm assuming that FA stands for f*** a**, as opposed to the Football Association?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 17:44:46 GMT
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Post by harrybuckle on Apr 8, 2015 10:14:18 GMT
It is reported in the evil post today guy from Wooton under edge banned and Brown the keeper had a letter from police telling him about the result
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Post by Gregory Stevens on Apr 9, 2015 14:58:02 GMT
So a man has a huge legal process to deal with, a criminal record, community service and the cost of his own prosecution to pay. he will probably lose his job. The taxpayer also covers some of the tab to rehabilitate this offender.
as we have seen, the public aren't really that interested in it.
So all of this hullabaloo for what, a comment shouted on a football terrace.
I think we should cut out the tongue, or chop hands off, that would make them think twice.
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Post by dido on Apr 9, 2015 15:14:14 GMT
A/ To think twice, you have to think once. B/ It's a little unsavoury to like one's own post, isn't it?
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Post by faggotygas on Apr 9, 2015 15:29:30 GMT
So a man has a huge legal process to deal with, a criminal record, community service and the cost of his own prosecution to pay. he will probably lose his job. The taxpayer also covers some of the tab to rehabilitate this offender. as we have seen, the public aren't really that interested in it. So all of this hullabaloo for what, a comment shouted on a football terrace. I think we should cut out the tongue, or chop hands off, that would make them think twice. You think that the decision to prosecute someone for breaking the law should be on cost grounds?
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Post by Gregory Stevens on Apr 9, 2015 15:34:10 GMT
My finger slipped
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Post by dagnogo on Apr 9, 2015 15:41:44 GMT
So a man has a huge legal process to deal with, a criminal record, community service and the cost of his own prosecution to pay. he will probably lose his job. The taxpayer also covers some of the tab to rehabilitate this offender. as we have seen, the public aren't really that interested in it. So all of this hullabaloo for what, a comment shouted on a football terrace. I think we should cut out the tongue, or chop hands off, that would make them think twice. Feeling sorry for the racist eh? It wasn't "a comment". It went on for over 3 minutes.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 9, 2015 18:05:09 GMT
So a man has a huge legal process to deal with, a criminal record, community service and the cost of his own prosecution to pay. he will probably lose his job. The taxpayer also covers some of the tab to rehabilitate this offender. as we have seen, the public aren't really that interested in it. So all of this hullabaloo for what, a comment shouted on a football terrace. I think we should cut out the tongue, or chop hands off, that would make them think twice. Looking at it from another angel you'd think a 42 year old, who seems to be reasonably educated, would have more sense than to put himself in a situation where he had to face criminal charges etc?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2015 7:29:03 GMT
So a man has a huge legal process to deal with, a criminal record, community service and the cost of his own prosecution to pay. he will probably lose his job. The taxpayer also covers some of the tab to rehabilitate this offender. as we have seen, the public aren't really that interested in it. So all of this hullabaloo for what, a comment shouted on a football terrace. I think we should cut out the tongue, or chop hands off, that would make them think twice. Looking at it from another angel you'd think a 42 year old, who seems to be reasonably educated, would have more sense than to put himself in a situation where he had to face criminal charges etc? Ignorant racists and their defenders cant help themselves
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2015 7:44:05 GMT
So anybody who won't put up a red card at the game is a racist as well ?
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Post by LJG on Apr 10, 2015 8:14:12 GMT
Oh ffs we're not doing this again are we?
The last three games are too important to go effing around with players wearing red shirts and everyone brandishing red banners AT A ROVERS GAME! It's a bl**dy jinx! Get rid.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Apr 10, 2015 8:30:34 GMT
So anybody who won't put up a red card at the game is a racist as well ? That is the tack that has been used for the last 20 years that if you don't show overtly that you are against it then you are considered for it. In fact it is one of the reasons that it is difficult to hold a sensible conversation about racism, what it is and how it should be dealt with because the racist, bigot terms are thrown about too easily. I abhor racism mainly because I don't understand why people have to hate others. I did my part against apartheid when I was in my late teens, early 20s and didn't get the hatred then. I show my stance on racism, homophobia, misogyny, etc by the way I act in my day to day life. I don't need a flag/card/tattoo etc to show I care or need anybody else to tell me what to do to show I care. This guy has been found guilty, I hope he learns from it. There are sadly many that still won't learn.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Apr 10, 2015 8:45:36 GMT
So anybody who won't put up a red card at the game is a racist as well ? That is the tack that has been used for the last 20 years that if you don't show overtly that you are against it then you are considered for it. In fact it is one of the reasons that it is difficult to hold a sensible conversation about racism, what it is and how it should be dealt with because the racist, bigot terms are thrown about too easily. I abhor racism mainly because I don't understand why people have to hate others. I did my part against apartheid when I was in my late teens, early 20s and didn't get the hatred then. I show my stance on racism, homophobia, misogyny, etc by the way I act in my day to day life. I don't need a flag/card/tattoo etc to show I care or need anybody else to tell me what to do to show I care. This guy has been found guilty, I hope he learns from it. There are sadly many that still won't learn. Good for you Terry. I presume you are still campaigning against the racism in South Africa (& indeed other African countries) today? Having watched the programme the other week by the guy who headed up the race equality people (Trevor Smith?) it was quite obvious that the people driving racist divisions are those shouting loudest about being victims of racism. I always laugh in work when the regular training on 'Diversity & Inclusion' comes up, there is never any mention of the largest ethnic group in this country in any of the training material. So as the title of the training suggests if you are not in included you must be excluded. And if you are excluded why so any interest in the subject?
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Post by faggotygas on Apr 10, 2015 9:15:55 GMT
That is the tack that has been used for the last 20 years that if you don't show overtly that you are against it then you are considered for it. In fact it is one of the reasons that it is difficult to hold a sensible conversation about racism, what it is and how it should be dealt with because the racist, bigot terms are thrown about too easily. I abhor racism mainly because I don't understand why people have to hate others. I did my part against apartheid when I was in my late teens, early 20s and didn't get the hatred then. I show my stance on racism, homophobia, misogyny, etc by the way I act in my day to day life. I don't need a flag/card/tattoo etc to show I care or need anybody else to tell me what to do to show I care. This guy has been found guilty, I hope he learns from it. There are sadly many that still won't learn. Good for you Terry. I presume you are still campaigning against the racism in South Africa (& indeed other African countries) today? Having watched the programme the other week by the guy who headed up the race equality people (Trevor Smith?) it was quite obvious that the people driving racist divisions are those shouting loudest about being victims of racism. I always laugh in work when the regular training on 'Diversity & Inclusion' comes up, there is never any mention of the largest ethnic group in this country in any of the training material. So as the title of the training suggests if you are not in included you must be excluded. And if you are excluded why so any interest in the subject? The discussion about Trevor Smith's comments is really important. I've certainly found that diversity training is almost always aimed at the white European group, which for me makes the assumption that white European culture is inherently superior, and aren't we being nice letting all these funny speaking chappies have a go at our culture. The world doesn't work like that any more, cultural exchange should be 2-way, it should be about acceptance not inclusion (which really means assimilation), and acceptance should also be 2 way.
Also there are d1ckheads in all walks of life. To paraphrase a famous speech, I prefer to judge not by the color of a man's skin but by the content of their character.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Apr 10, 2015 10:15:44 GMT
Good for you Terry. I presume you are still campaigning against the racism in South Africa (& indeed other African countries) today? Having watched the programme the other week by the guy who headed up the race equality people (Trevor Smith?) it was quite obvious that the people driving racist divisions are those shouting loudest about being victims of racism. I always laugh in work when the regular training on 'Diversity & Inclusion' comes up, there is never any mention of the largest ethnic group in this country in any of the training material. So as the title of the training suggests if you are not in included you must be excluded. And if you are excluded why so any interest in the subject? The discussion about Trevor Smith's comments is really important. I've certainly found that diversity training is almost always aimed at the white European group, which for me makes the assumption that white European culture is inherently superior, and aren't we being nice letting all these funny speaking chappies have a go at our culture. The world doesn't work like that any more, cultural exchange should be 2-way, it should be about acceptance not inclusion (which really means assimilation), and acceptance should also be 2 way.
Also there are d1ckheads in all walks of life. To paraphrase a famous speech, I prefer to judge not by the color of a man's skin but by the content of their character.
Don't come & work where I do then faggoty because the judgement here starts from the exact reverse of your last paragraph (or should do if we all followed our training)
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