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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 5, 2024 12:19:27 GMT
Meanwhile..... "Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Mark Rowley reacted rather forcefully when asked a simple question from a journalist today. While leaving the emergency COBRA meeting, a reporter asked “are you going to end two-tier policing?”. Rowley’s response was to grab the microphone and throw it on the floor." I think it may of been filmed. The man is no doubt frustrated and under stress.Tough times to be a Bobby. It was filmed. It's on Sky and other news outlets.
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 5, 2024 12:02:06 GMT
Meanwhile.....
"Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Mark Rowley reacted rather forcefully when asked a simple question from a journalist today. While leaving the emergency COBRA meeting, a reporter asked “are you going to end two-tier policing?”. Rowley’s response was to grab the microphone and throw it on the floor."
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 5, 2024 12:01:39 GMT
True, but back then we were not letting in hundred of illegals in daily like we are now. We know that most of these get rid of their passports before traveling in order to not be identified.I'm only guessing here,but maybe its a case of having to hold them in the hotels like a nice champ because they don't have any documentation to get on the legal system? The Tory government after 2010 have a lot to answer for. 4 weeks into a new government...pooh, let's blame them. Why are so many asylum applicants holed up in hotels? Because the Tories oversaw the degredation of our Home Office. A huge back log of applicants, creating emergency accommodation issues. 4 weeks in to a new government,...ooh let's blame them. 2010, 2016, 2019 and here we are But let's blame a 4 week old government. And Muslims, Asian, Africans, in fact anyone. Apart from those who caused this disaster Oldie, stop this nonsense about blaming the Tories after 2010. BOTH parties have failed on this issue, and Tony Blair opening the doors when every other European country were putting limits on migration. Yes, this government has only been in power for four weeks, but they opposed every move the Tories made over immigration, and their first move was to cancel the Rwanda Project without having any idea as to what they will do to solve it! Until people like you realise and understand that successive governments have failed on this it will never be solved. Turning it into a party political rant just doesn't wash.
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 5, 2024 10:13:57 GMT
Mixed messages from politicians...
"Ms Edwards Labour MP, re-elected on July 4 after winning a by-election last year, told MPs on July 30 that the residents of her town “wanted their hotel back” and asked why it was being used to accommodate asylum seekers. Speaking in the Commons on July 30, Ms Edwards, who hosted a visit from Home Secretary Yvette Cooper last month, said: “In Tamworth, the Holiday Inn has been used for asylum purposes for years and the simple reality is that residents want their hotel back. “Tamworth benefits from local tourism and as I have said before in this chamber, the Holiday Inn should be for holidays."
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 5, 2024 9:56:43 GMT
Yvette Cooper pledges 'a reckoning' for rioters as PM to hold emergency meeting..by Sam Hancockichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/1024/cpsprodpb/497a/live/eda44850-52f0-11ef-b2d2-cdb23d5d7c5b.jpgHome Secretary Yvette Cooper condemns "disgraceful scenes of violence and thuggery" following days of protests in UK towns and cities She tells BBC Breakfast "there will be a reckoning" and pledges "swift justice" for those involved in the unrest Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer is due to hold an emergency response meeting later after he described the protests as "far-right thuggery" Today's meeting - known as Cobra - will gather ministers, civil servants, the police and intelligence officers Rioters will 'face full force of law' after 'far-right thuggery' - Keir Starmer
Keir Starmer condemned the violent disorder yesterday, saying those who’ve taken part will “face the full force of the law”. He described the protests as “far-right thuggery” and that it has “no place on our streets or online”. He said Muslim communities and minorities have been targeted and singled out, mosques and police officers have been attacked, and Nazi salutes have been seen in the streets. “I guarantee you will regret taking part in this disorder, whether directly or those whipping up this action online,” he said. "There is no justification for taking this action,” he said, adding that people have“a right to be safe”. "I guarantee you will regret taking part in this disorder, whether directly or those whipping up this action online,” he said. "There is no justification for taking this action,” he said, adding that people have“a right to be safe”. ..... How will this wreckless rhetoric calm down this situation? He is only going to anger those that are rioting more! He is weak & pathetic. I actually think he should be arrested for fuelling riots and further destabilising the country (if there exists such a law). He has declared war on his own people apart from Muslims. The politicians are not 'reading the room' are they. Anyone with half a brain cell condemns the violent actions we are witnessing. However, the violence is borne from the frustration that many people in the country are feeling. The vast majority of those people, who we have in the past called the 'silent majority' remain silent. The hardline rhetoric from Starmer and Cooper is indeed worrying as it does nothing to address any of the issues that people feel aggrieved about. Economically times are hard and this will always lead to frustration. The government take away the Winter Heating Allowance from 10 million OAP's, saying that the country cannot afford it, yet the government can splash the cash on bumper pay rises for the Public Sector, and increasing costs for illegal immigrants. We know in the very near future the government are planning to raid the pockets of the people yet again with further tax rises. The government's energy policy will lead to higher fuel bills in the future. Only 20% of the electorate voted for this government, so they are on a very sticky wicket. They do not have this clear mandate they seem to think they have. As for the illegal and legal immigration, successive government's have been full of lies, both Labour and Tory. Successive government's have help fuel this problem, and none of them have any answers except to tell people to 'suck it up'. The very low turnout in the General Election was proof that many people have lost all faith in our politicians. Labour only got elected by default. When you have this situation, then people will look for alternatives, right or wrongly. The ineptitude and incompetence of Labour and the Tories have led us to where we are now. How do we get out of it? I've no idea, but it will be messy.
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 1, 2024 12:48:37 GMT
The irony of what Eddie Hearn said........is that he knows he cannot say what he really wants to say !
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 1, 2024 12:40:55 GMT
Next up it's the GP's. They already earn quite a bit, but they've seen the success of the Junior Doctor's by striking, and now they want a slice of the pie. Labour opened Pandora's Box by caving in to the Junior Doctor's demands.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 31, 2024 16:23:09 GMT
Reports indicate that Ukraine have received the first batch of F-16's.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 31, 2024 13:51:07 GMT
What do they mean when he is charged with "making images"? Are they photos he himself took?
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 31, 2024 13:45:42 GMT
The UK National Living wage is set at 11.44. For a 35 hour week, that works out at 20,820 pounds per year. The cut-off point for receiving the Winter Fuel Allowance is 11,350 a year. Labour, and anyone who has supported this policy, should hang their heads in shame. Where do you get the 11350 from, Nobby? Is it means tested? If you're income is below that there are other benefits you can claim that will then qualify you for the Winter Fuel Allowance. 11,350 is the cut-off point.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 31, 2024 13:44:20 GMT
You are scraping the barrel here Terry. ""We regret that those six people arrested were unable to join the wider group of protesters in Trafalgar Square and elsewhere on the procession route," a statement continued." "The Met said the group of six were detained after items were found in a vehicle which officers "had reasonable grounds to believe could be used as lock on devices". But the force said it was "unable to prove intent to use them to lock on and disrupt the event". One man in the group was also arrested for possession of a knife or pointed article." So, there was a peaceful protest already going on in Trafalgar Square and elsewhere! You asked for an example I gave you one, arrested before being allowed to protest. They have a reputation for non violent protest. You do realise that the definition of 'knife or pointed article' within the act is so wide ranging that it can include a pole for carrying a banner, which I believe it was in this case? If you want another, Police have removed Steve Bray, the anti-Brexit campaigner on numerous occasions and confiscated equipment under the act. There was peaceful protest going on of which some members of Republic were there. As I said they are known non violent protestors, so why arrest them? Even David Davis, a Tory MP, said when they were passed that the laws as set in Parliament were far too wide ranging and needed further scrutiny. I can imagine the Police arrested them because a peaceful protest had been agreed in advance, and this was indeed taking place. These six were found to be in possession of possible things they could use to 'tie on' to something. Security would have been really tight. Imagine if one of these people had run out in front of the Kings carriage with the intention to 'tie onto' it? There is the possibility that security would have shot them? Maybe members of the public may have taken matters into their own hands. So, removing them from the scene just may have been in their own best interest? With things like this it is always best to err on the side of caution. These six people were going outside of the agreed places of protest. You don't always have to wait for someone to break the law before you arrest them. The fact there was an agreed peaceful protest taking place goes against your claim of the Tories banning peaceful protests.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 31, 2024 10:55:18 GMT
How many 'peaceful non-violent protests' did the Tories ban? Do we have any evidence? How do you know that any protest is not going to turn violent? The police arrested Republic protestors prior to the Coronation. Republic have a reputation for non violent protest. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65527007You are scraping the barrel here Terry. ""We regret that those six people arrested were unable to join the wider group of protesters in Trafalgar Square and elsewhere on the procession route," a statement continued." "The Met said the group of six were detained after items were found in a vehicle which officers "had reasonable grounds to believe could be used as lock on devices". But the force said it was "unable to prove intent to use them to lock on and disrupt the event". One man in the group was also arrested for possession of a knife or pointed article." So, there was a peaceful protest already going on in Trafalgar Square and elsewhere!
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 31, 2024 10:12:14 GMT
The UK National Living wage is set at 11.44. For a 35 hour week, that works out at 20,820 pounds per year. The cut-off point for receiving the Winter Fuel Allowance is 11,350 a year.
Labour, and anyone who has supported this policy, should hang their heads in shame.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 30, 2024 22:25:10 GMT
Have you not read the charges against the Just Stop Oil protestors Nobby. Their protests though annoying and a nuisance to many were non violent. They are now in prison with lengthy jail sentences because of recent legislation not long standing legislation. Some people just don't want to see it Chesh Go on Oldie, same question to you. How many peaceful non-violent protests were banned? Give us evidence. C'mon, It's two of you against me. Where is the evidence?
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 30, 2024 22:22:44 GMT
How many 'peaceful non-violent protests' did the Tories ban? Do we have any evidence? How do you know that any protest is not going to turn violent? Have you not read the charges against the Just Stop Oil protestors Nobby. Their protests though annoying and a nuisance to many were non violent. They are now in prison with lengthy jail sentences because of recent legislation not long standing legislation. And so they should be. They had multiple convictions. The law of the !and dictates that if you keep breaking the law, your punishment will get tougher. They stopped Ambulances taking people to hospital's. People missed funerals of their loved ones. People couldn't get to work, which especially affected those paid by the hour. Their non-violent protest wasn't banned, so it doesn't qualify. So, once again, how many non-violent peaceful protests were banned? Give us evidence, or as Oldie insists, facts!
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 30, 2024 22:17:10 GMT
No Oldie, please stop trying to impose your views on what I say. I am saying that people are beginning to get fed up of the nonsense that has been delivered by successive Tory and Labour governments. They are fed up with the actions (or non actions) of the Police, who are acting under government instructions. A back lash is building. Do I relish that Oldie? Not I do not. I am just pointing out what I think will happen soon. Sure. A backlash against what? 3 Young girls being butchered in Southport? We all feel that. Most of us don't feel the need to go up to Southport, attack a mosque and then attack the police. EDL scum. Don't you agree? Perhaps not A backlash against lying, mealy mouthed po!iticians, a backlash against the Police who don't appear to be protecting the innocent. If the government, nor the Police,can protect people, then people will take the law into their own hands.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 30, 2024 22:07:00 GMT
The point you are missing is that Starmer is now the Head Honcho. It is his duty to turn up. The problem is that the public have had enough of politicians, either Labour or Tory. Any politician who turned up today would have received the same. The political classes have been ignoring the issue that affects the people on the street. Just look at the online response to this terrible act. People feel that the Police cannot, or will not, protect them. The feeling is that the political classes are ignoring them. Starmer, and Labour, have opposed every plan to solve the immigration problem, so yes, people will be angry with him, even though he's only been in charge for three weeks. Seriously, it won't be long before the silent majority kick off. You relish that Nobby? 3 young children stabbed to death, and the right wing are wallowing in a perceived opportunity to be violent. Are you suggesting these absolute morons represent any form of majority? No Oldie, please stop trying to impose your views on what I say. I am saying that people are beginning to get fed up of the nonsense that has been delivered by successive Tory and Labour governments. They are fed up with the actions (or non actions) of the Police, who are acting under government instructions. A back lash is building. Do I relish that Oldie? Not I do not. I am just pointing out what I think will happen soon.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 30, 2024 21:56:11 GMT
Oh, the irony. This from the guy who supported the riots in Bristol where a Police station was attacked, just because he didn't like the law the protesters were against! Oldie - you are a grade A. First class hypocrite. Sorry if you think that is personal, but it's the truth. Go on Nobby Make it up I suggest now you get a life and try and let go of your rather embarrassing infatuation with me. It's getting a bit disturbing No Oldie, let's not shy away from the truth. You personally did not agree with that law that was passed in the democratically elected HoC. You supported those that attacked Bridewell, and now you accuse others of 'not supporting the law'. Give your head a wibble. No infatuation, not.making anything up. What is disturbing is the fact that you are ignoring the very clear fact that you are a hypocrite! Sorry if you think this is personal, but you are attempting to sit on the high moral ground, but you are obviously uncomfortable being reminded of your previous words and views.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 30, 2024 21:47:25 GMT
Proof? Or just total bollux? Oh god Nobby C'mon Oldie. You are the master of 'facts'. Does ' a bloke near me' qualify as a fact?
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 30, 2024 21:44:40 GMT
Starmer made a good decision not to hang about or he would be ducking bricks. Why should Starmer have anything to worry about? He's only been in charge for a few weeks. Yvette Cooper has been lauded for how quickly she has seen all those involved and Starmer's talk with the emergency services who responded was very impassioned. The Liverpool Region mayor said it was stupid that people are blaming a PM who has only been around a few weeks. He's not the one who has driven immigration or failed to manage the boat explosion. At least Starmer and Cooper turned up. The point you are missing is that Starmer is now the Head Honcho. It is his duty to turn up. The problem is that the public have had enough of politicians, either Labour or Tory. Any politician who turned up today would have received the same. The political classes have been ignoring the issue that affects the people on the street. Just look at the online response to this terrible act. People feel that the Police cannot, or will not, protect them. The feeling is that the political classes are ignoring them. Starmer, and Labour, have opposed every plan to solve the immigration problem, so yes, people will be angry with him, even though he's only been in charge for three weeks. Seriously, it won't be long before the silent majority kick off.
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