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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 6, 2024 9:20:04 GMT
Trouble over immigration has been going on over in Ireland for the last nine months, and it doesn't look like ending soon. Pictures have emerged which should tell a powerful story. We are seeing the Union Flag being displayed next to the TriColour. I never thought I would have seen this in Ireland.
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 6, 2024 8:30:06 GMT
"He condemns it yet on the other hand saying he fully 'understands' why people are using violence, in other words actively encouraging them." Steady on Terry. You sound like Oldie did over the Bristol Riots when Bridewell was attacked. He used those exact same words ! Your lack of understanding exposed...again No Oldie. That was your exact view at the time. Please don't try to re-write history and the facts. If anything is exposed once again it is your rank hypocrisy.
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 6, 2024 8:28:23 GMT
Yesterday was probably the busiest day on Stock Exchanges across the globe. One platform we run had a record 857 million transactions! If you think this is all to do with Tech companies in the US, you are way way wide of the mark!
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 6, 2024 8:19:39 GMT
So, no discussion or debate, even though it appears that your claims were not justified? Sums you up really doesn't it. Just a glib response from you. Nothing changes. Not quite Nobby I am laughing at you. Some weeks ago, when I quoted the growth in "non farms payroll", you asked "what are non farms payroll?" and I had to explain it to you. Now you are quoting the figures with some glee as you try to exploit the numbers because they have not grown at the same level as previously. Not GROWN. But you miss, again, the bigger underlying picture. It appears we may experiencing another bursting of a tech bubble. Investors are now asking, after a couple of years of multi $billion expenditure, when AI will deliver a monetised product. Shares across the tech sector have bombed over the last week. But you carry on copy and pasting what you don't understand. Um...err.....I've worked for a major European Stock Exchange for over 25 years. I think I have some knowledge of what is happening, and it ain't about your claim of AI. Shares have bombed across all sectors. The main fear is that the US is heading for a recession. No, I had no idea what US Non Farms Payroll was, nor I expect, does anyone else on this forum. I am not "quoting with glee" anything, just printing an article that shows the US economy is not booming under Biden as you have claimed. Why are you laughing at me? Is it a nervous laugh as your claims have been proven to be totally wrong?
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 5, 2024 22:59:50 GMT
The media keep talking about the EDL, when we all know the EDL as such hasn't existed for about ten years, but they never mention the Muslim Defence League? Why is that?
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 5, 2024 22:58:17 GMT
Interesting that when a group of concerned people decided to protect the Cenotaph, they were described as far right-wing, and openly derided by the likes of Oldie, but it's ok for a group of Muslims to defend their Mosques? To many of us, our war memorials are sacred, just as Mosques, Churches and Synagogues are to others. To many, our war memorials are personal, very personal.
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 5, 2024 22:52:36 GMT
More lies as I havent owned a TV since 2007. Ahhh....so it's social media feeds, that explains a lot. Do you keep the lights off as well? Social media complaint? From the guy who continually posts links to X
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 5, 2024 22:50:42 GMT
Trymer I think your on a losing battle to get anyone from the left to evidence posts of racism. I've experienced this on the other forum. Only today I've been told if I'm against Antifa I must be pro facism! I've also had a mod on the forum refer to me as far right in my posts yet has never given an example of anything I've posted as being far right. The very same mod called me out as being racist because at Easter I posted " Happy Easter everyone hope your all having a great time where as in London Sadiq Khan is wishing everyone happy Ramadam" in reference to Happy Ramadam lights being put up in London rather than happy Easter. I quickly retorted to said mod that I have never shied away from the fact I am a Tory voter the pary I support led by a Hindu. You are facing a losing battle over there France. Poor old Yatton has disappeared from here when he had his arse handed to him on a plate on countless occasions. That bloke wouldn't recognise reality if it slapped him in the face! Of course if you oppose Antifida then you must be a fascist. It stands to reason The poor man can only see in black & white, a bit like Oldie. He argues like a child.
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 5, 2024 22:42:05 GMT
Farage wants an uprising Chesh? He's putting forward ideas to stop one if anything. He is very much more in touch with the approximate 40,000,000 Britons concerned with immigration, than our Prime Minister. Where is your evidence that 40million are concerned about immigration please? Farage is clever, using the Trump playbook. He condemns it yet on the other hand saying he fully 'understands' why people are using violence, in other words actively encouraging them. "He condemns it yet on the other hand saying he fully 'understands' why people are using violence, in other words actively encouraging them." Steady on Terry. You sound like Oldie did over the Bristol Riots when Bridewell was attacked. He used those exact same words !
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 5, 2024 22:39:04 GMT
Oldie, I thought you were saying that the US economy was booming under Biden? "Shares on Wall Street and in London have fallen heavily amid a global stock market rout triggered by fears of a recession in the US. The tech-focused Nasdaq index dropped by 6% as trading in New York opened on Monday, while the broader S&P 500 index dropped 4.2% in a sell-off sparked by weak US jobs data. The Dow Jones industrial average lost more than 1,100 points, a 2.8% decline. Japan’s benchmark stock index, the Nikkei 225, suffered its biggest fall for nearly four decades on Monday. It dropped by 12%, the biggest single-day drop since the Black Monday crash of 1987. Other stock indices around the world dropped as investors dumped riskier assets. South Korea’s Kospi fell by 9%, Germany’s Dax was down 2%, and share indices in Australia, Hong Kong and China also dropped heavily. London’s FTSE 100 fell by 2.7% to 7,951 points, on track for its lowest close since April. Investors are concerned that the Federal Reserve may have left it too late to try to support the world’s biggest economy. A US recession would hurt economies around the world. A much-anticipated report on Friday showed the US economy added just 114,000 jobs last month, well down from June and far fewer than expected, while the jobless rate rose to the highest level since October 2021. Weak factory data last week also added to concern about a recession less than 100 days from the US presidential election.The investment bank Goldman Sachs said in a note to clients that the chances of a US recession had risen from 15% to 25%. However, its economists, led by Jan Hatzius, said that “we continue to see recession risk as limited” because there are no major financial imbalances. Nevertheless, investors bought up assets perceived as safer. The yield on 10-year US bonds fell 10 basis points to 3.68%, the lowest since June 2023, as prices for government bonds around the world jumped. Jim Reid, the global head of macro research at Deutsche Bank, said there had been “astonishing moves” in share prices, and “markets are melting down in Asia”. “Markets were on edge before Friday but a weak payrolls has really escalated a profound move across the globe,” he added. However, he said the US jobs numbers may have been affected by Hurricane Beryl, and that the dramatic market moves could have been exacerbated by volatility in August, with many investors on holiday. “It’s like the market has added up two plus two and made nine,” he said. Austan Goolsbee, president of the Chicago Fed, one of 12 banks that make up the US Federal Reserve, told CNBC that the US economy does not appear to be entering recession, even though Friday’s jobs data was worse than expected. Yet investors did not appear to take that message to heart. The Vix index, Wall Street’s “fear gauge”, surged to its highest level since the coronavirus pandemic. The index, a measure of stock market volatility, rose as high as 65 points, before dropping back to an 80% gain for the day." 😂😂😂😂 So, no discussion or debate, even though it appears that your claims were not justified? Sums you up really doesn't it. Just a glib response from you. Nothing changes.
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 5, 2024 15:41:08 GMT
"Police are reviewing video footage in which a police officer advised a group of men to "discard any weapons" at a mosque, to avoid being arrested.
The officer was filmed in a video, which was livestreamed on TikTok, addressing a crowd of men outside the Darul Falah mosque in Hanley, near Stoke-on-Trent on Saturday.
Instead of arranging a search of the group to see if any had committed the offence of possession of an offensive weapon in public, for which they could be arrested and charged, the officer appeared to give them an amnesty.
Speaking through a loudspeaker, he is heard to say: "If there is any weapons or anything like that, then what I would do is discard them at the mosque.
"Don't give anybody any reason to have any interaction with police, so if there is any weapons, get rid of them and we won't have to arrest anyone."
The clip, which has been shared widely on social media, has fuelled claims of a two-tier policing system between rioters and members of the community.
Steve Perkins, a former Met Police officer, posted on X: "The officer tells people to leave weapons at the mosque and nobody will be arrested. I can see why there is an argument re two tier policing."
Another aimed their post at Kier Starmer and police adding: "With weapons yet no arrests, why?
"We see this as two-tier policing."
But, a third appeared to support the approach adding: "Never heard of a weapons amnesty?"
Trouble flared the same day between far right protesters and counter-protesters in the vicinity of the mosque, as scenes turned violent.
Riot police were deployed to the scene in huge numbers and Staffordshire Police struggled to keep the groups apart as there were fights and missiles were hurled.
Asked about the video by Express.co.uk today, a Staffordshire Police spokesperson said: "We recognise that some footage shared on social media has gained traction and impacted on public confidence, particularly surrounding a protest liaison officer giving words of advice to a group in Stoke-on-Trent on Saturday.
"We are actively reviewing this footage and all of the material available.
"We will address any lessons to be learned and assess whether the action taken was proportionate while we continue to reassure people in the local community.""
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 5, 2024 15:24:59 GMT
"Iran must 'punish' Israel, official says Iran says it is not looking to escalate tensions in the Middle East but believes it needs to "punish" Israel to prevent further instability. Nasser Kanaani, spokesman for the foreign minister, said Tehran was not seeking a wider conflict in the region, but "punishing Israel is necessary"."
With logic like this, then war it will be.
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 5, 2024 15:07:15 GMT
Why dont you try it and we will see. trymer - wishing the death of a fellow poster is hardly appropriate in any context. Terry, in fairness it was a ridiculous post by Oldie to even mention it.
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 5, 2024 14:59:09 GMT
No need for him to explain it is there Oldie, as you well know it's a stupid, loaded question. What are you? His dad? He said it, let him explain Because your questions are sometimes really tiring and unnecessary. It seems as though you are just trying for those "gotcha" questions. They add nothing to the debate.
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 5, 2024 14:55:18 GMT
Then there's Bolton.Muslim gangs,dressed in all black,masked up,carrying weapons and chanting Ala Akbar. This I against the Law. Our police allowed it to carry on,which begs the question who actually enforces the law in Bolton and which law? Very worrying. You disagreeing with police practice in an area you do not live hardly constitutes "2 tier policing" does it. Btw, you have yet to explain your point that Blair was involved in the Johnson government decision to expand the visa quota to 1.2 million a year...what was Blair's involvement with that? No need for him to explain it is there Oldie, as you well know it's a stupid, loaded question.
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 5, 2024 14:53:28 GMT
Oldie, I thought you were saying that the US economy was booming under Biden?
"Shares on Wall Street and in London have fallen heavily amid a global stock market rout triggered by fears of a recession in the US. The tech-focused Nasdaq index dropped by 6% as trading in New York opened on Monday, while the broader S&P 500 index dropped 4.2% in a sell-off sparked by weak US jobs data. The Dow Jones industrial average lost more than 1,100 points, a 2.8% decline. Japan’s benchmark stock index, the Nikkei 225, suffered its biggest fall for nearly four decades on Monday. It dropped by 12%, the biggest single-day drop since the Black Monday crash of 1987. Other stock indices around the world dropped as investors dumped riskier assets. South Korea’s Kospi fell by 9%, Germany’s Dax was down 2%, and share indices in Australia, Hong Kong and China also dropped heavily. London’s FTSE 100 fell by 2.7% to 7,951 points, on track for its lowest close since April. Investors are concerned that the Federal Reserve may have left it too late to try to support the world’s biggest economy. A US recession would hurt economies around the world. A much-anticipated report on Friday showed the US economy added just 114,000 jobs last month, well down from June and far fewer than expected, while the jobless rate rose to the highest level since October 2021. Weak factory data last week also added to concern about a recession less than 100 days from the US presidential election.
The investment bank Goldman Sachs said in a note to clients that the chances of a US recession had risen from 15% to 25%. However, its economists, led by Jan Hatzius, said that “we continue to see recession risk as limited” because there are no major financial imbalances. Nevertheless, investors bought up assets perceived as safer. The yield on 10-year US bonds fell 10 basis points to 3.68%, the lowest since June 2023, as prices for government bonds around the world jumped. Jim Reid, the global head of macro research at Deutsche Bank, said there had been “astonishing moves” in share prices, and “markets are melting down in Asia”. “Markets were on edge before Friday but a weak payrolls has really escalated a profound move across the globe,” he added. However, he said the US jobs numbers may have been affected by Hurricane Beryl, and that the dramatic market moves could have been exacerbated by volatility in August, with many investors on holiday. “It’s like the market has added up two plus two and made nine,” he said. Austan Goolsbee, president of the Chicago Fed, one of 12 banks that make up the US Federal Reserve, told CNBC that the US economy does not appear to be entering recession, even though Friday’s jobs data was worse than expected. Yet investors did not appear to take that message to heart. The Vix index, Wall Street’s “fear gauge”, surged to its highest level since the coronavirus pandemic. The index, a measure of stock market volatility, rose as high as 65 points, before dropping back to an 80% gain for the day."
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 5, 2024 14:19:35 GMT
Yes,the Conservatives have played a big part,with Labours Opposition fighting their efforts all the way. Failing to acknowledge Blairs major role in this mess makes your post look too partisan . Neither of our two main parties have any intention of listening to the concerns of about 40,000 000 Britons regarding immigration and Islam. What was Blair's role in changing our visa rules that has resulted that have resulted in 1.2 million immigrants on visas annually? Could you explain what his role was? "Under Blair's Labour, up to 5.5million people born outside the UK arrived as long-term migrants. Between 1997 and 2010, around 2.3million left the country, meaning the UK population increased by around 3.2million as a direct result of foreign migrants." In May 2004, the EU welcomed ten new member states – the majority from Central and Eastern Europe – in what was the largest expansion in the history of European integration. The UK was one of only three member states, alongside Sweden and Ireland, to open its labour market to these new EU citizens immediately. At the time, Labour’s decision was largely uncontroversial and met with bipartisan support in parliament. Yet this was to be perhaps Tony Blair’s greatest unintended legacy and ultimately a contributor to his party’s electoral defeat in years to come. Although ten countries became EU member states in 2004, attention focused on the “A8 countries”. These were Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia, and Slovenia. While the number of migrants from Central and Eastern Europe into the UK was predicted to be in the region of 5,000 to 13,000 on the assumption that other member states would also open their labour markets, most didn’t. And the flows turned out to be over 20 times the upper end of this estimate." In 2004 and 2005, 129,000 migrants from the A8 countries entered Britain, according to research by migration researcher John Salt that takes into account various ways of measuring immigration. "
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 5, 2024 12:26:34 GMT
The initial batch is apparently 10 F-16s. Presumably Russia will claim to have destroyed 50 of them by the end of the week. There are more than 70 more F-16 waiting for delivery. The initial warload was AIM-9 and AMRAAM which suggests they will initially be used for air defence. When more arrive I presume that they will be used for HARM, SDB, JDAM-ER and other stand off attack weapons. Nominally these are Block 20 MLU aircraft. But they have received a pile of upgrades before being delivered.
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 5, 2024 12:23:19 GMT
Meanwhile..... "Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Mark Rowley reacted rather forcefully when asked a simple question from a journalist today. While leaving the emergency COBRA meeting, a reporter asked “are you going to end two-tier policing?”. Rowley’s response was to grab the microphone and throw it on the floor." I guess if you ask stupid questions in tense situations.... Not a stupid question, and do you think it's right that the Met Police Commissioner should act in this way? And just what was "tense" about the situation? I'm really surprised that you are defending him here.
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 5, 2024 12:20:50 GMT
Oldie, stop this nonsense about blaming the Tories after 2010. BOTH parties have failed on this issue, and Tony Blair opening the doors when every other European country were putting limits on migration. Yes, this government has only been in power for four weeks, but they opposed every move the Tories made over immigration, and their first move was to cancel the Rwanda Project without having any idea as to what they will do to solve it! Until people like you realise and understand that successive governments have failed on this it will never be solved. Turning it into a party political rant just doesn't wash. Nobby Stop this nonsense of ignoring the facts of history. You cannot rewrite it just because those of us who told you this would happen in 2010 turned out to be right. I know you voted for it and it's embarrassing for you, but heh, that's the way it goes when you ignore what's staring you in the face The 'facts of history'. You're having a laugh surely! What 'facts of history' did your post contain?
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