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Post by Curly Wurly on Jun 10, 2021 15:54:35 GMT
I think the the jury selection in November will not be easy. Yes the defendant being Joey Barton makes it hard, but there were also nearly two days of prosecution evidence which did not appear good for Joey. Not my reading of the evidence presented at all. If anything the prosecution case looks far weaker than most of us suspected and certainly nothing like the sensational tabloid reporting at the time.
Some lessons so far: Always give a limp handshake to avoid it being seen as an aggressive act. Walk, don't run. If you are in court on dodgy ground, appear by video link.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Jun 10, 2021 18:51:05 GMT
on the other hand though. Now we know what we know It sounds very much like he ran into the tunnel and pushed someone over into a metal barrier bashing their face up, and walked by to his dressing room. That is the accusation to be deliberated? IF a court finds that as true, that violence from behind certain dismissal from any job isn’t it? you would support sacking if a court found that to be what happened? anyone not support sacking if that is the eventual outcome of the case He was manager of Fleetwood when the incident occurred and not Bristol Rovers. So technically he hasnt commited any misconduct with our club. The club were very aware of his background when we employed him and I doubt there is much of a caveat to his contract to say we can terminate him for this. He also once kicked Sergio Aguero when playing for Newcastle, is that also a sackable offence at Bristol Rovers? I will add, I do not condone the alleged offence in any way and yes, if it is true, its a dispicable act of cowardice. That is a fair point. What conventionally happens, wherever someone is when the jury returns, there is immense media pressure for them to lose their job. And then someone else snaps them up without any fuss. Should be other way round, someone signs someone up without knowing trial result, the others sign them up knowing trial result, they are the ones media should give hard time to. But it never seems to happen. Back to this particular case though, anger management problem, running up behind someone, shoving them into metal barrier smashing their face, walking on by, if you were convicted of a crime like this, you would expect your employer to sack you, wouldn’t you?
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Jun 10, 2021 18:54:44 GMT
I think the the jury selection in November will not be easy. Yes the defendant being Joey Barton makes it hard, but there were also nearly two days of prosecution evidence which did not appear good for Joey. Not my reading of the evidence presented at all. If anything the prosecution case looks far weaker than most of us suspected and certainly nothing like the sensational tabloid reporting at the time.
Some lessons so far: Always give a limp handshake to avoid it being seen as an aggressive act. Walk, don't run. If you are in court on dodgy ground, appear by video link. 😆 Top Satire!
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Post by alftupper on Jun 11, 2021 6:53:53 GMT
He was manager of Fleetwood when the incident occurred and not Bristol Rovers. So technically he hasnt commited any misconduct with our club. The club were very aware of his background when we employed him and I doubt there is much of a caveat to his contract to say we can terminate him for this. He also once kicked Sergio Aguero when playing for Newcastle, is that also a sackable offence at Bristol Rovers? I will add, I do not condone the alleged offence in any way and yes, if it is true, its a dispicable act of cowardice. That is a fair point. What conventionally happens, wherever someone is when the jury returns, there is immense media pressure for them to lose their job. And then someone else snaps them up without any fuss. Should be other way round, someone signs someone up without knowing trial result, the others sign them up knowing trial result, they are the ones media should give hard time to. But it never seems to happen. Back to this particular case though, anger management problem, running up behind someone, shoving them into metal barrier smashing their face, walking on by, if you were convicted of a crime like this, you would expect your employer to sack you, wouldn’t you? Ain`t neccessarily so, Mr S. I don`t think you`ve thought this through. Supposing your employer was being mugged at knife point, and you ran up behind his assailant and pushed him into a metal barrier, smashing his face; I think you`d be most upset and disappointed to be sacked for your actions.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Jun 25, 2021 15:00:06 GMT
That is a fair point. What conventionally happens, wherever someone is when the jury returns, there is immense media pressure for them to lose their job. And then someone else snaps them up without any fuss. Should be other way round, someone signs someone up without knowing trial result, the others sign them up knowing trial result, they are the ones media should give hard time to. But it never seems to happen. Back to this particular case though, anger management problem, running up behind someone, shoving them into metal barrier smashing their face, walking on by, if you were convicted of a crime like this, you would expect your employer to sack you, wouldn’t you? Ain`t neccessarily so, Mr S. I don`t think you`ve thought this through. Supposing your employer was being mugged at knife point, and you ran up behind his assailant and pushed him into a metal barrier, smashing his face; I think you`d be most upset and disappointed to be sacked for your actions. That’s a fair point also. If the German bloke was mugging the wealthy Jordanian, and this action saved the day, sacking or any ban would be harsh, I agree. we just have to wait for the truth to come out I suppose. in the meantime UFO’s, and the brave men and women in SHADO battle the dreaded enemy who vaporised their underwear. www.thesun.co.uk/news/15367584/pentagon-black-triangle-ufo-photo-fighter-pilot/
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Post by droitwichgas on Jun 25, 2021 17:24:03 GMT
He was manager of Fleetwood when the incident occurred and not Bristol Rovers. So technically he hasnt commited any misconduct with our club. The club were very aware of his background when we employed him and I doubt there is much of a caveat to his contract to say we can terminate him for this. He also once kicked Sergio Aguero when playing for Newcastle, is that also a sackable offence at Bristol Rovers? I will add, I do not condone the alleged offence in any way and yes, if it is true, its a dispicable act of cowardice. That is a fair point. What conventionally happens, wherever someone is when the jury returns, there is immense media pressure for them to lose their job. And then someone else snaps them up without any fuss. Should be other way round, someone signs someone up without knowing trial result, the others sign them up knowing trial result, they are the ones media should give hard time to. But it never seems to happen. Back to this particular case though, anger management problem, running up behind someone, shoving them into metal barrier smashing their face, walking on by, if you were convicted of a crime like this, you would expect your employer to sack you, wouldn’t you? That's the prosecutions case, you have to assume JB will say he just ran past as Stendel stumbled for some unknown reason, with one colleague of Stendel claiming to witness a push in a tunnel packed with players etc, if Stendel was push what evidence is there it was definitely JB? The jury will then have to decide if there's sufficient evidence to find JB guilty, if he is then I assume he'll face a lengthy FA, if that happens if may make his position at Rovers untenable, although if we're in the top 3 by then, maybe not! If JB's convicted and then enters an appeal it may not until next summer before we know the final verdict.
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Post by a more piratey game on Nov 1, 2021 9:27:19 GMT
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 1, 2021 10:18:41 GMT
I think the the jury selection in November will not be easy. Yes the defendant being Joey Barton makes it hard, but there were also nearly two days of prosecution evidence which did not appear good for Joey. Not my reading of the evidence presented at all. If anything the prosecution case looks far weaker than most of us suspected and certainly nothing like the sensational tabloid reporting at the time.
Some lessons so far: Always give a limp handshake to avoid it being seen as an aggressive act. Walk, don't run. If you are in court on dodgy ground, appear by video link. NEVER give a limp handshake. Always firm but not hard. Sales 101, do not try to turn the other persons hand, so that yours is on top as this is a show of dominance. On a personal note, I don’t trust those who gives a limp handshake. Just to add, Tyson Fury is a limp handshake man but to avoid hand damage. Shook his hand 3 times, he puts out fingers out rather than his hand so goes to show what i know, ya ken 😂
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Post by a more piratey game on Nov 1, 2021 10:23:48 GMT
Not my reading of the evidence presented at all. If anything the prosecution case looks far weaker than most of us suspected and certainly nothing like the sensational tabloid reporting at the time.
Some lessons so far: Always give a limp handshake to avoid it being seen as an aggressive act. Walk, don't run. If you are in court on dodgy ground, appear by video link. NEVER give a limp handshake. Always firm but not hard. Sales 101, do not try to turn the other persons hand, so that yours is on top s this is a show of dominance. On a personal note, I don’t trust those who give limp handshake. Just to add, Tyson Fury is a limp handshake man but to avoid hand damage. Shook his hand 3 times, he puts out fingers rather than his hand so goes to show what i know, ya ken 😂 in France it's a fingers shake. Which I found a bit weird to start with, and then grew to prefer - it avoids any potential posturing (though might not work for the 'Masons). And the cheek kiss for the ladies, bien sur
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 1, 2021 10:25:10 GMT
NEVER give a limp handshake. Always firm but not hard. Sales 101, do not try to turn the other persons hand, so that yours is on top s this is a show of dominance. On a personal note, I don’t trust those who give limp handshake. Just to add, Tyson Fury is a limp handshake man but to avoid hand damage. Shook his hand 3 times, he puts out fingers rather than his hand so goes to show what i know, ya ken 😂 in France it's a fingers shake. Which I found a bit weird to start with, and then grew to prefer - it avoids any potential posturing (though might not work for the 'Masons). And the cheek kiss for the ladies, bien sur New daft fact for me to use when I’m nervous and have nothing to say, thank you an i am not joking
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