kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 7, 2021 11:35:52 GMT
Why don’t you address the real issue that got you banned from standing as a candidate rather than throwing around insults such as bent and liars( evidence that you are rattled to say the least) The abhorrent comment about the late gasincider was the reason but you and a fellow gaschat moderator compounded the problem by trying to say it was an attempt at humour.What a derisory excuse.The comments were not funny but deeply offensive and caused distress to Brian’s family and friends.you were quite rightly banned. Quite why our owner would want someone like you on the board I have no idea but it seems to me you have access to information coming directly from the top and the sooner this stops the better we will all be for it .You seem to me to have a lot of unresolved issues Dave, I’m not rattled and I certainly wouldn’t get overly excited by you. You’ve made yourself look an idiot by lying, again. You have also bankrupted any credibility you may have even had left by sticking to the lie and now you want to deflect once again to a conversation I once had with a dead man who a few days before he died, made quite a good job of sending a threatening email to me, which wasn’t the first time either. Whilst you may like to remember him as some kind of pariah, towards me he was thug. But just like everything that happens when we die, the thoughts words and conversations die with them and he’s no longer here so as far as I’m concerned it’s finished and none of his family have ever reached out to me to express anything then or since. It’s only you who’s dragging it along and trying and failing to beat me with a stick with it. I’d say it’s you that has the issues old boy. You’re like the rest of the Jurassic bunch who just can’t let go. I’d let it lie if I were you because you’re making yourself look absolutely stupid and you’ll be the next to go from winding yourself up over it. You obviously don’t know what pariah means Steve. Just a thought to gastower and you, maybe better to take this to a private conversation or argument. It’s not exactly football related and , on my part, I find it in very poor taste.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 7, 2021 11:46:02 GMT
I was nominated and seconded as per the usual process and removed from that process via an email from JC which I have posted. I thought you were asked to stand down because of a post you posted on Gaschat where you stated that "who would wish to breed with Gasinsider". As Gasinsider was a member of the Supporters Club I really can't see how the club's committee could even consider you as a member let alone as their representative on the board. What's worse you exacerbated your beliefs further last night by calling the recently deceased Gasinsider a thug. Your like something out of John Osborne's angry young men and post on the forums as some kind of required therapy. It makes for some ugly reading doesn’t it. I really find it quite sickening.
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Post by irenestoyboy on May 7, 2021 11:53:31 GMT
Dave, I’m not rattled and I certainly wouldn’t get overly excited by you. You’ve made yourself look an idiot by lying, again. You have also bankrupted any credibility you may have even had left by sticking to the lie and now you want to deflect once again to a conversation I once had with a dead man who a few days before he died, made quite a good job of sending a threatening email to me, which wasn’t the first time either. Whilst you may like to remember him as some kind of pariah, towards me he was thug. But just like everything that happens when we die, the thoughts words and conversations die with them and he’s no longer here so as far as I’m concerned it’s finished and none of his family have ever reached out to me to express anything then or since. It’s only you who’s dragging it along and trying and failing to beat me with a stick with it. I’d say it’s you that has the issues old boy. You’re like the rest of the Jurassic bunch who just can’t let go. I’d let it lie if I were you because you’re making yourself look absolutely stupid and you’ll be the next to go from winding yourself up over it. You obviously don’t know what pariah means Steve. Just a thought to gastower and you, maybe better to take this to a private conversation or argument. It’s not exactly football related and , on my part, I find it in very poor taste. I meant to write messiah and i thought I had edited it.. Accusations and insults and the defence there of never do make great reading. But im not the sort to roll over when being attacked and neither will I stand by and watch someone blatantly lie. Even now GT is adament its a mystery as to how he knew the exact contents of an email conversation I had with JC, when me and JC were the only participants. So he must have been forwarded the emails or shown.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 7, 2021 12:01:42 GMT
You obviously don’t know what pariah means Steve. Just a thought to gastower and you, maybe better to take this to a private conversation or argument. It’s not exactly football related and , on my part, I find it in very poor taste. I meant to write messiah and i thought I had edited it.. I did wonder, it read like it was a line from an Eastenders script, where one of the characters uses the same types of malapropisms. Steve, I’m no mod nor anywhere close but surely you must see that this is really inappropriate and, my view, is that it should be a private matter. There is trying to prove a point but also beyond pale. I’d ask you to think about that. I can’t tell you what to do but I can tell you how it reads, to me in anycase
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Post by trymer on May 7, 2021 12:53:52 GMT
Dave, I’m not rattled and I certainly wouldn’t get overly excited by you. You’ve made yourself look an idiot by lying, again. You have also bankrupted any credibility you may have even had left by sticking to the lie and now you want to deflect once again to a conversation I once had with a dead man who a few days before he died, made quite a good job of sending a threatening email to me, which wasn’t the first time either. Whilst you may like to remember him as some kind of pariah, towards me he was thug. But just like everything that happens when we die, the thoughts words and conversations die with them and he’s no longer here so as far as I’m concerned it’s finished and none of his family have ever reached out to me to express anything then or since. It’s only you who’s dragging it along and trying and failing to beat me with a stick with it. I’d say it’s you that has the issues old boy. You’re like the rest of the Jurassic bunch who just can’t let go. I’d let it lie if I were you because you’re making yourself look absolutely stupid and you’ll be the next to go from winding yourself up over it. You obviously don’t know what pariah means Steve. Just a thought to gastower and you, maybe better to take this to a private conversation or argument. It’s not exactly football related and , on my part, I find it in very poor taste. I agree KP, maybe there could be a 'Supporters club/ Presidents club' thread where all this kind of stuff could go and that would stop so many threads being de-railed ?
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Post by irenestoyboy on May 7, 2021 16:04:00 GMT
I meant to write messiah and i thought I had edited it.. I did wonder, it read like it was a line from an Eastenders script, where one of the characters uses the same types of malapropisms. Steve, I’m no mod nor anywhere close but surely you must see that this is really inappropriate and, my view, is that it should be a private matter. There is trying to prove a point but also beyond pale. I’d ask you to think about that. I can’t tell you what to do but I can tell you how it reads, to me in anycase I'm happy to keep my counsel but i wont tolerate liars. If they accuse of something publicly, ill defend myself publicly and i'll dismantle their character in the process if I have to. Simple as that really.
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Post by gastower on May 7, 2021 17:41:39 GMT
Oh dear here we go again .I was more than happy to let this go KP but this guy just wont leave it We have learnt a new word from 81/ITB this week Together with liars,cronies,irrelevant and weasels we now have the word “bent” The time may come when he will need to justify this . But the new low was calling a deceased gas head “a thug” This is so far out of order I am surprised the mods didn’t act.It tells you all you need to know about the poster For the record I stand by everything I have posted this week
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 7, 2021 17:54:45 GMT
Oh dear here we go again .I was more than happy to let this go KP but this guy just wont leave it We have learnt a new word from 81/ITB this week Together with liars,cronies,irrelevant and weasels we now have the word “bent” The time may come when he will need to justify this . But the new low was calling a deceased gas head “a thug” This is so far out of order I am surprised the mods didn’t act.It tells you all you need to know about the poster For the record I stand by everything I have posted this week I have noticed and won’t bother commenting further. Some have no filter, permanently enabled. I find it sad and nasty
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Post by gastower on May 7, 2021 18:42:27 GMT
Can’t find fault with your comment KP and I am not blame less so,going forward I will not be responding to anything he posts on this forum
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Post by swissgas on May 7, 2021 18:51:00 GMT
Can’t find fault with your comment KP and I am not blame less so,going forward I will not be responding to anything he posts on this forum I will though. And having gone through minor surgery to have my bankrupted credibility repaired I feel it's the least I should do. Looking forward to coming over for Rovers first game at the new "Bitcoin Stadium"
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2021 20:56:45 GMT
Whilst I do think that ITB has brought this on himself it also has a bit of a feel of the other forum about it, which I don't like much.
3 or 4 people piling in to one poster, it's not a good look.
It's all laid out there in the exchanges between him and gastower, anybody interested can take a look and decide for themselves, for me we've seen enough, don't know how others feel?
Of more interest to me know is the procedure of the SC and whether Jim is actually able to inform someone that their nomination for the Share Scheme ballot won't be processed.
I'm still not certain what happened. ITB, do you have the email from the SC, and if so, can it be shared on here? My instinct is to read it and then email the SC and ask what provision within either the SC constitution or the Share Scheme agreement afforded the SC the authority to reject the application to stand for election, if indeed that's what has happened here.
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Post by irenestoyboy on May 7, 2021 22:47:36 GMT
Whilst I do think that ITB has brought this on himself it also has a bit of a feel of the other forum about it, which I don't like much. 3 or 4 people piling in to one poster, it's not a good look. It's all laid out there in the exchanges between him and gastower, anybody interested can take a look and decide for themselves, for me we've seen enough, don't know how others feel? Of more interest to me know is the procedure of the SC and whether Jim is actually able to inform someone that their nomination for the Share Scheme ballot won't be processed. I'm still not certain what happened. ITB, do you have the email from the SC, and if so, can it be shared on here? My instinct is to read it and then email the SC and ask what provision within either the SC constitution or the Share Scheme agreement afforded the SC the authority to reject the application to stand for election, if indeed that's what has happened here. It’s ok TWD. They are passionate gasheads just like me. I’m sure they have their reasons for their opinions and I’m not intimidated. My application was nominated and seconded as per the constitution to stand. On page 10 I posted the email from JC annulling my nomination from this ballot and “whenever we have the opportunity to make such a nomination to our members”.
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Post by The Concept on May 8, 2021 7:18:49 GMT
Whilst I do think that ITB has brought this on himself it also has a bit of a feel of the other forum about it, which I don't like much. 3 or 4 people piling in to one poster, it's not a good look. It's all laid out there in the exchanges between him and gastower, anybody interested can take a look and decide for themselves, for me we've seen enough, don't know how others feel? Of more interest to me know is the procedure of the SC and whether Jim is actually able to inform someone that their nomination for the Share Scheme ballot won't be processed. I'm still not certain what happened. ITB, do you have the email from the SC, and if so, can it be shared on here? My instinct is to read it and then email the SC and ask what provision within either the SC constitution or the Share Scheme agreement afforded the SC the authority to reject the application to stand for election, if indeed that's what has happened here. It’s ok TWD. They are passionate gasheads just like me. I’m sure they have their reasons for their opinions and I’m not intimidated. My application was nominated and seconded as per the constitution to stand. On page 10 I posted the email from JC annulling my nomination from this ballot and “whenever we have the opportunity to make such a nomination to our members”. It was too small too read, unfortunately! Even zooming in, I could only make out a few words, here and there, and that included Gasincider's name.
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Post by Angas on May 8, 2021 8:48:21 GMT
It should open in a new window if you click on it.
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Post by eppinggas on May 8, 2021 9:46:06 GMT
Oh dear here we go again .I was more than happy to let this go KP but this guy just wont leave it We have learnt a new word from 81/ITB this week Together with liars,cronies,irrelevant and weasels we now have the word “bent” The time may come when he will need to justify this . But the new low was calling a deceased gas head “a thug” This is so far out of order I am surprised the mods didn’t act.It tells you all you need to know about the poster For the record I stand by everything I have posted this week Please use the "Report" button if you feel strongly about what has been written and the mods will look into it. On the face of it some of the language used by ITB in this thread is at best inappropriate and very insensitive. He should have a long hard look at himself, and how he expresses himself in future.
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Post by The Concept on May 8, 2021 9:53:09 GMT
It should open in a new window if you click on it. Ta! So obvious now you say. There was me squinting, zooming the screen, getting the magnifying glass out.
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Post by The Concept on May 8, 2021 10:08:30 GMT
I think that would be a marvellous idea if he became the Supporters Director, we receive an awful lot of information now from him when he posts which can only come from someone on high within the club, can you imagine if he were on the board, the self righteous belief he has would amount to open house in terms of confidential information being shared amongst us all on this forum. Well Jim Chappell took it upon himself to break his own constitution and ban me from the SC for life. So now you'll have to rely on misinformation instead. Sorry. What have I posted thats confidential? I havent repeated anything that hasn't already been put into the public domain or has been discussed by anyone else at some point. Okay, so just to be clear, and going from the email you've shared: 1) You haven't been banned from the Supporters Club for life. - You can still be a member of the supporters club like anyone else. - Gasincider (the chap who was apparently - shall I say - 'vociferous' to the Rovers Board at an Open Forum) was only ever a member, just like the majority of others would be - he wasn't part of the committee of BRFC. 2) The Supporters Club have decided not to accept your application to become a Supporters Club Director. - Isn't that their right? - Are they not entitled to sift through any applications, and decide whether they are willing to support them, just like any job application for an interview? - I don't know, just asking.
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Post by irenestoyboy on May 8, 2021 10:18:19 GMT
Oh dear here we go again .I was more than happy to let this go KP but this guy just wont leave it We have learnt a new word from 81/ITB this week Together with liars,cronies,irrelevant and weasels we now have the word “bent” The time may come when he will need to justify this . But the new low was calling a deceased gas head “a thug” This is so far out of order I am surprised the mods didn’t act.It tells you all you need to know about the poster For the record I stand by everything I have posted this week Please use the "Report" button if you feel strongly about what has been written and the mods will look into it. On the face of it some of the language used by ITB in this thread is at best inappropriate and very insensitive. He should have a long hard look at himself, and how he expresses himself in future. I don’t think I’m the only one at fault here but I do accept I didn’t do anything to defuse a situation. I won’t apologise for defending myself when someone is lying to convince themselves or others of events that happened completely differently to what actually played out. I won’t apologise when those lies incite others to attack me either. That’s dishonest and I won’t sit back and allow it to happen. I know I haven’t covered myself in glory when it came to GI over the years and as much as we were sworn enemies, I wouldn’t wish covid or death on anyone and that includes Brian. However I wasn’t the one who brought that subject back up and even now someone else is using it to try and score points against me and to incite others to join in attacking me. Going forward please pm me if you want to discuss anything. I’m happy to chat to anyone. Epping as a mod on the other side I know how hard it is when you have posters forthrightly and passionately stating their position or even squabbling. It’s not my desire to add to your hard work here so please accept my apologies and I’ll try and take things to PM going forward.
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Post by irenestoyboy on May 8, 2021 10:25:18 GMT
Well Jim Chappell took it upon himself to break his own constitution and ban me from the SC for life. So now you'll have to rely on misinformation instead. Sorry. What have I posted thats confidential? I havent repeated anything that hasn't already been put into the public domain or has been discussed by anyone else at some point. Okay, so just to be clear, and going from the email you've shared: 1) You haven't been banned from the Supporters Club for life. - You can still be a member of the supporters club like anyone else. - Gasincider (the chap who was apparently - shall I say - 'vociferous' to the Rovers Board at an Open Forum) was only ever a member, just like the majority of others would be - he wasn't part of the committee of BRFC. 2) The Supporters Club have decided not to accept your application to become a Supporters Club Director. - Isn't that their right? - Are they not entitled to sift through any applications, and decide whether they are willing to support them, just like any job application for an interview? - I don't know, just asking.1. Correct. I never said GI was part of the commitee. 2. The supporters club director is appointed by a vote from all SC members. The FC then interview you and appoint you to the position of director. The FC also reserve the right to not appoint you. To be put forward you have to be nominated and then seconded by fellow members, which I was. The executive committee according to their own constitution cannot nominate certain individuals or not allow members to stand that have been nominated and seconded by their own members. That doesn’t make it a democratic process. In this instance, their own opinion is no more important than their standard rank and file member, according to John Malyckyj anyway.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 8, 2021 10:30:15 GMT
It’s ok TWD. They are passionate gasheads just like me. I’m sure they have their reasons for their opinions and I’m not intimidated. My application was nominated and seconded as per the constitution to stand. On page 10 I posted the email from JC annulling my nomination from this ballot and “whenever we have the opportunity to make such a nomination to our members”. It was too small too read, unfortunately! Even zooming in, I could only make out a few words, here and there, and that includedf Gasincider's name. Maybe a silly question but did you click on the letter ? This opens it in another window. If so I’m guessing you are using a phone as it is easy to read on a tablet or computer
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