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Post by gastower on May 6, 2021 18:58:57 GMT
On the 19th January you resigned your membership of the SC so it looks to me that you jumped first As for confidential information you informed us all yesterday of allegations made against our owner involving a juvenile You were also the OP on gaschat advising us all that a complaint had been made to the EFL about the governance of the club .Surely sensitive and confidential information known only to board of the club itself.Looks to me that you are being fed information Permanently banned from standing as a director in laymans english. Unless you were the 3 copied in on that email, and there is no Dave Baker listed as the treasurer, vicechair or secretary on the SC executive committee, how would you know the date and times of said email? Your e mail timed at 21:17 19th January and I can confirm that no one from the SC gave me the e mail So that will have to be a mystery for now You have stated that you did not want an involvement as the fans share director because of the rank hypocrisy you thought existed but then,in typical Mowattesque style ,the following day you wanted to appeal the decision to ban you Shall we call you Mr Flip Flop from now on?
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Post by irenestoyboy on May 6, 2021 19:43:11 GMT
Permanently banned from standing as a director in laymans english. Unless you were the 3 copied in on that email, and there is no Dave Baker listed as the treasurer, vicechair or secretary on the SC executive committee, how would you know the date and times of said email? Your e mail timed at 21:17 19th January and I can confirm that no one from the SC gave me the e mail So that will have to be a mystery for now You have stated that you did not want an involvement as the fans share director because of the rank hypocrisy you thought existed but then,in typical Mowattesque style ,the following day you wanted to appeal the decision to ban you Shall we call you Mr Flip Flop from now on? I’m relatively competent at sending emails, in that, I don’t send them to individuals that shouldn’t receive them, unlike a certain halfwit in your clique...so someone has forwarded you the emails or shown you. I know the Sc is in the dark ages regarding electronic communication but trust me, the date and time stamp of my email trail proves who it was sent to and the read receipts of who opened it and when so quit with the BS and just admit someone sent it to you or had shown you. Your lies make you look stupid. I did send an email the following day to Jim because i had one call from someone who heard about who said the SC couldn’t withdraw me and John Malyckyj, who knows the SC constitution back to front confirmed that and advised me there were no terms in which the SC could remove me. Jim Chappell ignored my subsequent email. But as the SC is a closed shop, it came as no surprise that the exec commitee behaved the way it did and I’m certainly losing no sleep over it. But the consistent lies from the SC and people within it like you only add to evidence that’s been collected that you are all bent. Rule of thumb is, that if you’re going to lie, at least remember the events as they happened and make sure there is nothing that incriminates yourself. You have just fallen at the first fence.
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Post by gastower on May 6, 2021 20:15:27 GMT
Why don’t you address the real issue that got you banned from standing as a candidate rather than throwing around insults such as bent and liars( evidence that you are rattled to say the least) The abhorrent comment about the late gasincider was the reason but you and a fellow gaschat moderator compounded the problem by trying to say it was an attempt at humour.What a derisory excuse.The comments were not funny but deeply offensive and caused distress to Brian’s family and friends.you were quite rightly banned. Quite why our owner would want someone like you on the board I have no idea but it seems to me you have access to information coming directly from the top and the sooner this stops the better we will all be for it .You seem to me to have a lot of unresolved issues
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Post by irenestoyboy on May 6, 2021 20:33:30 GMT
Why don’t you address the real issue that got you banned from standing as a candidate rather than throwing around insults such as bent and liars( evidence that you are rattled to say the least) The abhorrent comment about the late gasincider was the reason but you and a fellow gaschat moderator compounded the problem by trying to say it was an attempt at humour.What a derisory excuse.The comments were not funny but deeply offensive and caused distress to Brian’s family and friends.you were quite rightly banned. Quite why our owner would want someone like you on the board I have no idea but it seems to me you have access to information coming directly from the top and the sooner this stops the better we will all be for it .You seem to me to have a lot of unresolved issues Dave, I’m not rattled and I certainly wouldn’t get overly excited by you. You’ve made yourself look an idiot by lying, again. You have also bankrupted any credibility you may have even had left by sticking to the lie and now you want to deflect once again to a conversation I once had with a dead man who a few days before he died, made quite a good job of sending a threatening email to me, which wasn’t the first time either. Whilst you may like to remember him as some kind of pariah, towards me he was thug. But just like everything that happens when we die, the thoughts words and conversations die with them and he’s no longer here so as far as I’m concerned it’s finished and none of his family have ever reached out to me to express anything then or since. It’s only you who’s dragging it along and trying and failing to beat me with a stick with it. I’d say it’s you that has the issues old boy. You’re like the rest of the Jurassic bunch who just can’t let go. I’d let it lie if I were you because you’re making yourself look absolutely stupid and you’ll be the next to go from winding yourself up over it.
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Post by vaughan on May 6, 2021 20:33:48 GMT
Read Jim's letter.
So they have banned one person for standing, but haven't nominated anyone else since the departure of Masters.
Why can't the supporters run a virtual election, independent of SC?
If we do this, we maybe able to climb the Fans Engagement Index even further?
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 21:27:19 GMT
Why don’t you address the real issue that got you banned from standing as a candidate rather than throwing around insults such as bent and liars( evidence that you are rattled to say the least) The abhorrent comment about the late gasincider was the reason but you and a fellow gaschat moderator compounded the problem by trying to say it was an attempt at humour.What a derisory excuse.The comments were not funny but deeply offensive and caused distress to Brian’s family and friends.you were quite rightly banned. Quite why our owner would want someone like you on the board I have no idea but it seems to me you have access to information coming directly from the top and the sooner this stops the better we will all be for it .You seem to me to have a lot of unresolved issues Dave, I’m not rattled and I certainly wouldn’t get overly excited by you. You’ve made yourself look an idiot by lying, again. You have also bankrupted any credibility you may have even had left by sticking to the lie and now you want to deflect once again to a conversation I once had with a dead man who a few days before he died, made quite a good job of sending a threatening email to me, which wasn’t the first time either. Whilst you may like to remember him as some kind of pariah, towards me he was thug. But just like everything that happens when we die, the thoughts words and conversations die with them and he’s no longer here so as far as I’m concerned it’s finished and none of his family have ever reached out to me to express anything then or since. It’s only you who’s dragging it along and trying and failing to beat me with a stick with it. I’d say it’s you that has the issues old boy. You’re like the rest of the Jurassic bunch who just can’t let go. I’d let it lie if I were you because you’re making yourself look absolutely stupid and you’ll be the next to go from winding yourself up over it. ITB. I'm sure you'll go back and edit that at some point, because a lot of it doesn't make much sense, but I think I get the overall idea. Firstly, you do yourself no favours whatsoever here with the vocabulary you are using in relation to gasincider, but to draw a line under this once and for all, rather than bat it back and forth and to put gastower in a position where he'll be obliged to apologise to you, just confirm that Jim didn't advise you that the SC did not regard you as a suitable candidate to stand for election for the position of Supporters' Director. I know nothing whtsoever about any of this, but it's ugly at best, so let's draw a line under it once and for all can we please?
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Post by Smithy Gas on May 6, 2021 21:54:58 GMT
f**k me. Mint round here init?
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Post by axegas on May 6, 2021 22:47:16 GMT
Anyyway, season tickets. I renewed mine, not for B*****, not for last season but because the club deserve all the help they can get recovering from Covid. Forza Gas.
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Post by alftupper on May 7, 2021 6:36:52 GMT
I mean these are just public companies. For example, say he owned a couple of hundred bitcoin that he purchased when they were £1000 each then hes probably sat on £300m. My gut instinct is that if Wael had £300m stuffed under his Janjaap Ruissenaars floating mattress, we would be in a new stadium already. Aha. I`ve spotted a clear and obvious flaw in your logic, Mr White Duke. How can something be stuffed, under something else that`s floating?
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Post by alftupper on May 7, 2021 6:42:13 GMT
Anyyway, season tickets. I renewed mine, not for B*****, not for last season but because the club deserve all the help they can get recovering from Covid. Forza Gas. I got mine, because if the good times do ever come back, I can feel that I played my own small part in getting us there. Easy to support your club, when results are going your way.
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Post by irenestoyboy on May 7, 2021 7:22:33 GMT
Anyyway, season tickets. I renewed mine, not for B*****, not for last season but because the club deserve all the help they can get recovering from Covid. Forza Gas. I got mine, because if the good times do ever come back, I can feel that I played my own small part in getting us there. Easy to support your club, when results are going your way.
Me too Alf. Exactly as I see it. Can’t wait until I can take my seat back at the Mem. 👍🏻👍🏻
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Post by irenestoyboy on May 7, 2021 7:23:49 GMT
Dave, I’m not rattled and I certainly wouldn’t get overly excited by you. You’ve made yourself look an idiot by lying, again. You have also bankrupted any credibility you may have even had left by sticking to the lie and now you want to deflect once again to a conversation I once had with a dead man who a few days before he died, made quite a good job of sending a threatening email to me, which wasn’t the first time either. Whilst you may like to remember him as some kind of pariah, towards me he was thug. But just like everything that happens when we die, the thoughts words and conversations die with them and he’s no longer here so as far as I’m concerned it’s finished and none of his family have ever reached out to me to express anything then or since. It’s only you who’s dragging it along and trying and failing to beat me with a stick with it. I’d say it’s you that has the issues old boy. You’re like the rest of the Jurassic bunch who just can’t let go. I’d let it lie if I were you because you’re making yourself look absolutely stupid and you’ll be the next to go from winding yourself up over it. ITB. I'm sure you'll go back and edit that at some point, because a lot of it doesn't make much sense, but I think I get the overall idea. Firstly, you do yourself no favours whatsoever here with the vocabulary you are using in relation to gasincider, but to draw a line under this once and for all, rather than bat it back and forth and to put gastower in a position where he'll be obliged to apologise to you, just confirm that Jim didn't advise you that the SC did not regard you as a suitable candidate to stand for election for the position of Supporters' Director. I know nothing whtsoever about any of this, but it's ugly at best, so let's draw a line under it once and for all can we please? I was nominated and seconded as per the usual process and removed from that process via an email from JC which I have posted.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2021 8:49:38 GMT
ITB. I'm sure you'll go back and edit that at some point, because a lot of it doesn't make much sense, but I think I get the overall idea. Firstly, you do yourself no favours whatsoever here with the vocabulary you are using in relation to gasincider, but to draw a line under this once and for all, rather than bat it back and forth and to put gastower in a position where he'll be obliged to apologise to you, just confirm that Jim didn't advise you that the SC did not regard you as a suitable candidate to stand for election for the position of Supporters' Director. I know nothing whtsoever about any of this, but it's ugly at best, so let's draw a line under it once and for all can we please? I was nominated and seconded as per the usual process and removed from that process via an email from JC which I have posted. OK, thanks for the clear reply, it wasn't easy to understand exactly what had happened by reading the exchange between yourself and gastower. My instinct is that John M alyckyj is correct and no such provision exists within the framework of either the SC or the Share Scheme agreement, but I will find the docs over the coming days and see if the SC are actually able to do that.
But I suspect that you've already studied those texts, so why didn't you just reply and tell Jim that he has no authority to do that?
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2021 8:53:52 GMT
My gut instinct is that if Wael had £300m stuffed under his Janjaap Ruissenaars floating mattress, we would be in a new stadium already. Aha. I`ve spotted a clear and obvious flaw in your logic, Mr White Duke. How can something be stuffed, under something else that`s floating?
It can only float high enough so that it's not an issue if you fall out. £300,000,000 is a lot of £5 notes. It would be well stuffed.
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Post by bondigas on May 7, 2021 9:23:29 GMT
ITB. I'm sure you'll go back and edit that at some point, because a lot of it doesn't make much sense, but I think I get the overall idea. Firstly, you do yourself no favours whatsoever here with the vocabulary you are using in relation to gasincider, but to draw a line under this once and for all, rather than bat it back and forth and to put gastower in a position where he'll be obliged to apologise to you, just confirm that Jim didn't advise you that the SC did not regard you as a suitable candidate to stand for election for the position of Supporters' Director. I know nothing whtsoever about any of this, but it's ugly at best, so let's draw a line under it once and for all can we please? I was nominated and seconded as per the usual process and removed from that process via an email from JC which I have posted. I thought you were asked to stand down because of a post you posted on Gaschat where you stated that "who would wish to breed with Gasinsider". As Gasinsider was a member of the Supporters Club I really can't see how the club's committee could even consider you as a member let alone as their representative on the board. What's worse you exacerbated your beliefs further last night by calling the recently deceased Gasinsider a thug. Your like something out of John Osborne's angry young men and post on the forums as some kind of required therapy.
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Post by alftupper on May 7, 2021 9:38:01 GMT
Aha. I`ve spotted a clear and obvious flaw in your logic, Mr White Duke. How can something be stuffed, under something else that`s floating?
It can only float high enough so that it's not an issue if you fall out. £300,000,000 is a lot of £5 notes. It would be well stuffed. Good point. Well made.
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Post by irenestoyboy on May 7, 2021 9:40:27 GMT
I was nominated and seconded as per the usual process and removed from that process via an email from JC which I have posted. I thought you were asked to stand down because of a post you posted on Gaschat where you stated that "who would wish to breed with Gasinsider". As Gasinsider was a member of the Supporters Club I really can't see how the club's committee could even consider you as a member let alone as their representative on the board. What's worse you exacerbated your beliefs further last night by calling the recently deceased Gasinsider a thug. Your like something out of John Osborne's angry young men and post on the forums as some kind of required therapy. Bondi, read the email from JC to me. Does it look like I was asked or that I stood down? Its in black and white, date and time stamped! I'm really not an angry or aggressive person by nature, but I can hold my own when needed and I wont be intimidated by anyone, and thats fair game IMO. I said that GI was a thug towards me, he may have been a gentleman to others and that is human nature in action, we get on better with some than others and at times, people can be sworn enemies. So dont twist what I have said.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2021 10:09:58 GMT
Anyway, Season Ticket sales are going well.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2021 10:18:26 GMT
Anyway, Season Ticket sales are going well. Agreed, this is supposed to be about season tickets, but a different interesting topic has emerged. Maybe ITB has acted in a way inappropriate for a candidate for Share Scheme Director, maybe Jim has overstepped his authority in declining that person's application to stand. I find it interesting, even if nobody else does.
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Post by gastower on May 7, 2021 11:24:18 GMT
Why don’t you address the real issue that got you banned from standing as a candidate rather than throwing around insults such as bent and liars( evidence that you are rattled to say the least) The abhorrent comment about the late gasincider was the reason but you and a fellow gaschat moderator compounded the problem by trying to say it was an attempt at humour.What a derisory excuse.The comments were not funny but deeply offensive and caused distress to Brian’s family and friends.you were quite rightly banned. Quite why our owner would want someone like you on the board I have no idea but it seems to me you have access to information coming directly from the top and the sooner this stops the better we will all be for it .You seem to me to have a lot of unresolved issues Dave, I’m not rattled and I certainly wouldn’t get overly excited by you. You’ve made yourself look an idiot by lying, again. You have also bankrupted any credibility you may have even had left by sticking to the lie and now you want to deflect once again to a conversation I once had with a dead man who a few days before he died, made quite a good job of sending a threatening email to me, which wasn’t the first time either. Whilst you may like to remember him as some kind of pariah, towards me he was thug. But just like everything that happens when we die, the thoughts words and conversations die with them and he’s no longer here so as far as I’m concerned it’s finished and none of his family have ever reached out to me to express anything then or since. It’s only you who’s dragging it along and trying and failing to beat me with a stick with it. I’d say it’s you that has the issues old boy. You’re like the rest of the Jurassic bunch who just can’t let go. I’d let it lie if I were you because you’re making yourself look absolutely stupid and you’ll be the next to go from winding yourself up over it. So no apology, no contrition just arrogance intermingled with verbal diarrhoea.Quite why you feel Brians family should reach out to you to express their feeling beggars belief They are maintaining a dignified silence in public which is an example you would do well to follow. Mind how you go dear chap
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