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Post by swissgas on May 8, 2021 20:38:59 GMT
Think he signed a 3 year contract recently.....will have to see about the rest. Yes he did sign a 3 year contract. Trouble is facts always ruin a good story... And Cheltenham getting promoted is why we love football. It does not infer that Weal is incompetent, it just shows with a bit of organisation and a decent manager, ie not Garner who wrecked us with to much change too quickly. It was Widdrington and Starnes job to slow him down. The actual vision was not bad. Like you I thought the vision was not bad and could have been made to work if more thought had been put into it as I’ve explained in previous posts. Why do you think Wael has allowed B***** to rubbish it so savagely and say he is going to take us down a completely different route which looks suspiciously like Higgs/Buckle Mk2 ?
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Post by a more piratey game on May 8, 2021 20:45:03 GMT
Yes he did sign a 3 year contract. Trouble is facts always ruin a good story... And Cheltenham getting promoted is why we love football. It does not infer that Weal is incompetent, it just shows with a bit of organisation and a decent manager, ie not Garner who wrecked us with to much change too quickly. It was Widdrington and Starnes job to slow him down. The actual vision was not bad. Like you I thought the vision was not bad and could have been made to work if more thought had been put into it as I’ve explained in previous posts. Why do you think Wael has allowed B***** to rubbish it so savagely and say he is going to take us down a completely different route which looks suspiciously like Higgs/Buckle Mk2 ? Good question
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Post by holmesgas1 on May 8, 2021 21:29:38 GMT
Yes he did sign a 3 year contract. Trouble is facts always ruin a good story... And Cheltenham getting promoted is why we love football. It does not infer that Weal is incompetent, it just shows with a bit of organisation and a decent manager, ie not Garner who wrecked us with to much change too quickly. It was Widdrington and Starnes job to slow him down. The actual vision was not bad. Like you I thought the vision was not bad and could have been made to work if more thought had been put into it as I’ve explained in previous posts. Why do you think Wael has allowed B***** to rubbish it so savagely and say he is going to take us down a completely different route which looks suspiciously like Higgs/Buckle Mk2 ? Now that is a good question. I do hope they are not throwing it away completely, but clarity of message has been lost. JB mentions the great reset. What does that mean, is it "great reset" of players against a similar vision or a totally new vision, If its the latter, Wael should lead from the front and explain. What we don't want is go back to era of no long term plan, because after every change of manager either due to success or failure (usual case), we will go back to square one again.
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 9, 2021 0:53:29 GMT
Think he signed a 3 year contract recently.....will have to see about the rest. Yes he did sign a 3 year contract. Trouble is facts always ruin a good story... And Cheltenham getting promoted is why we love football. It does not infer that Weal is incompetent, it just shows with a bit of organisation and a decent manager, ie not Garner who wrecked us with to much change too quickly. It was Widdrington and Starnes job to slow him down. The actual vision was not bad. But all of the BoD are hired hands and not gas. It was Waels vision that allowed a rookie manager in, Wael was one of the people interviewing. They, collectively, chucked our our experience and physicality and this was down to that vision. No one else seems to wish to place the blame where it started. We basically went through an entire season with a development squad I’m writing at 01:52, waiting for the boxing. At least it has my attention , unlike our team and board
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2021 9:40:17 GMT
Think he signed a 3 year contract recently.....will have to see about the rest. Yes he did sign a 3 year contract. Trouble is facts always ruin a good story... And Cheltenham getting promoted is why we love football. It does not infer that Weal is incompetent, it just shows with a bit of organisation and a decent manager, ie not Garner who wrecked us with to much change too quickly. It was Widdrington and Starnes job to slow him down. The actual vision was not bad. It's not clear who the '3 year contract' comment relates to, but if it's 1982's manager then what story has been ruined? Just to remind you, they removed their manager because it looked as if they weren't going to get a top 6 finish, but only did so when their league status was secure. The new manager, and his players, have delivered relegation form, very similar to Garner, they've gone from a few points outside of the play offs to having 2 teams between them and relegation. I'll eat my hat if that manager is still there when the next season starts, 3 year contract or not. As has been discussed on here previously, industry standard with these contracts is that they have a 6 month notice period built in, so just to pull a number out of thin air, £5k a week, x 26 weeks £130k. Do we think that Lansdown would risk compromising next season's entire campaign from the get go, which will have a multi million pound budget for £130k? BTW, Nigel Pearson's record is W3 D6 L16. Not hugely dissimilar to Punchy. But there's no talk coming out of BS3 of him putting his arm around Lansdown's shoulder and explaining why everything has gone wrong and wanting to take control of areas of the club, and what exactly would we be saying about 1982 if we heard that? Be honest, we would be laughing our heads off at the stupidity of it. The Cheltenham comparison is a direct criticism of Wael. Sorry about that. I know it's difficult for some to read, but there you go. He claimed that he was attracted to Rovers because of the support and potential of the club. Good shout I say. Well, here we are 5 years later, many millions of pounds lost, relegated and none of that potential utilised.
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Post by womble on May 9, 2021 13:01:08 GMT
Yes he did sign a 3 year contract. Trouble is facts always ruin a good story... And Cheltenham getting promoted is why we love football. It does not infer that Weal is incompetent, it just shows with a bit of organisation and a decent manager, ie not Garner who wrecked us with to much change too quickly. It was Widdrington and Starnes job to slow him down. The actual vision was not bad. It's not clear who the '3 year contract' comment relates to, but if it's 1982's manager then what story has been ruined? Just to remind you, they removed their manager because it looked as if they weren't going to get a top 6 finish, but only did so when their league status was secure. The new manager, and his players, have delivered relegation form, very similar to Garner, they've gone from a few points outside of the play offs to having 2 teams between them and relegation. I'll eat my hat if that manager is still there when the next season starts, 3 year contract or not. As has been discussed on here previously, industry standard with these contracts is that they have a 6 month notice period built in, so just to pull a number out of thin air, £5k a week, x 26 weeks £130k. Do we think that Lansdown would risk compromising next season's entire campaign from the get go, which will have a multi million pound budget for £130k? BTW, Nigel Pearson's record is W3 D6 L16. Not hugely dissimilar to Punchy. But there's no talk coming out of BS3 of him putting his arm around Lansdown's shoulder and explaining why everything has gone wrong and wanting to take control of areas of the club, and what exactly would we be saying about 1982 if we heard that? Be honest, we would be laughing our heads off at the stupidity of it. The Cheltenham comparison is a direct criticism of Wael. Sorry about that. I know it's difficult for some to read, but there you go. He claimed that he was attracted to Rovers because of the support and potential of the club. Good shout I say. Well, here we are 5 years later, many millions of pounds lost, relegated and none of that potential utilised. I fear your hat may be in some danger. Pearson signed a 3 year contract less than two weeks ago. Short of being hit by a stray piece of re-entering Chinese rocket, he’s likely to be there in August. City’s approximate (and arguably even less popular) equivalent to Tommy Widdrington, Mark Ashton, is off to Ipswich, so Pearson will probably find himself with more clout without having to say anything. Unlike JB, he has the managerial background to be given a wider say - he’s already inferred that a lot of the players aren’t up to Championship standard.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2021 13:14:32 GMT
It's not clear who the '3 year contract' comment relates to, but if it's 1982's manager then what story has been ruined? Just to remind you, they removed their manager because it looked as if they weren't going to get a top 6 finish, but only did so when their league status was secure. The new manager, and his players, have delivered relegation form, very similar to Garner, they've gone from a few points outside of the play offs to having 2 teams between them and relegation. I'll eat my hat if that manager is still there when the next season starts, 3 year contract or not. As has been discussed on here previously, industry standard with these contracts is that they have a 6 month notice period built in, so just to pull a number out of thin air, £5k a week, x 26 weeks £130k. Do we think that Lansdown would risk compromising next season's entire campaign from the get go, which will have a multi million pound budget for £130k? BTW, Nigel Pearson's record is W3 D6 L16. Not hugely dissimilar to Punchy. But there's no talk coming out of BS3 of him putting his arm around Lansdown's shoulder and explaining why everything has gone wrong and wanting to take control of areas of the club, and what exactly would we be saying about 1982 if we heard that? Be honest, we would be laughing our heads off at the stupidity of it. The Cheltenham comparison is a direct criticism of Wael. Sorry about that. I know it's difficult for some to read, but there you go. He claimed that he was attracted to Rovers because of the support and potential of the club. Good shout I say. Well, here we are 5 years later, many millions of pounds lost, relegated and none of that potential utilised. I fear your hat may be in some danger. Pearson signed a 3 year contract less than two weeks ago. Short of being hit by a stray piece of re-entering Chinese rocket, he’s likely to be there in August. City’s approximate (and arguably even less popular) equivalent to Tommy Widdrington, Mark Ashton, is off to Ipswich, so Pearson will probably find himself with more clout without having to say anything. Unlike JB, he has the managerial background to be given a wider say - he’s already inferred that a lot of the players aren’t up to Championship standard. We'll see.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on May 9, 2021 13:55:45 GMT
I fear your hat may be in some danger. Pearson signed a 3 year contract less than two weeks ago. Short of being hit by a stray piece of re-entering Chinese rocket, he’s likely to be there in August. City’s approximate (and arguably even less popular) equivalent to Tommy Widdrington, Mark Ashton, is off to Ipswich, so Pearson will probably find himself with more clout without having to say anything. Unlike JB, he has the managerial background to be given a wider say - he’s already inferred that a lot of the players aren’t up to Championship standard. We'll see. History does tell us the bad run when they man in halfway through season isn’t necessary a block on promotion next. Jordan and Johnson at City. The smart money is Pearson has them ready for The start and takes em up? Francis Rovers and Cloughs Derby floundering early doors? certainly with Francis Rovers, who looked likely relegated at Christmas, you could at least see what he was doing, putting the spine together, working on the defence. Knew his formation, style, drills. Unlike B*****, Pearson nothing to prove, he’s achieved success and repeated it.
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Post by holmesgas1 on May 9, 2021 16:19:12 GMT
I fear your hat may be in some danger. Pearson signed a 3 year contract less than two weeks ago. Short of being hit by a stray piece of re-entering Chinese rocket, he’s likely to be there in August. City’s approximate (and arguably even less popular) equivalent to Tommy Widdrington, Mark Ashton, is off to Ipswich, so Pearson will probably find himself with more clout without having to say anything. Unlike JB, he has the managerial background to be given a wider say - he’s already inferred that a lot of the players aren’t up to Championship standard. We'll see. City are definitely sticking with Pearson for the start of the season, similar to how we are sticking with B*****. I am beginning to wonder if you are one of these who argue black is white to see how people react, as there are a few threads like Pearson, ESL, where you're argument is not even close with what is actually happening. If this is the case, I congratulate you as you hook me everytime.
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