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Post by topman on Aug 31, 2016 8:18:38 GMT
IMO the best way to show the EFL what utter clowns they are is by NOT attending completely
Showing up and 'protesting' will o nothing other than increase the gate numbers (unless of course outside of the ground)
The people who run OUR game (for without fans support the game would die) only understand money so hit them in the pocket with low revenue and attendances and let them explain to the press why most of us DO NOT want this competition in this format
I remember back to us and Donny at the Millennium - a good and deserved final for 'proper' lower league fans to enjoy Whats more a much better stadium and atmosphere imo
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Post by Peter Parker on Aug 31, 2016 8:22:52 GMT
I never said I was a protester, get real, not everyone is. I went to see FIRST HAND what was happening, if you think that's a protest the that's your opinion,not mine. And your view was what other than us being s**te in a game the players probably wernt up for? What are your views on the potential English superstars Reading fielded all 5 or 6 of them? I wouod hope people wouldnt have gone, but it is everyones free choice to do so. Not sure i would worry about a poor peformance in a competition a lot of people think is a joke |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2016 8:24:36 GMT
It's good that Mike has the opportunity to w**k him self silly over attending the poorest attended competitive Rovers game ever. Ain't no party like a complimentary party.
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Post by Peter Parker on Aug 31, 2016 8:28:19 GMT
Mod Comment
Lets argue all we want, but can we reign in the personal insults.
We have let a lot slide (we are all grown ups after all) but lets debate it properly
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Post by Igitur on Aug 31, 2016 8:31:24 GMT
There are few things that get a club more excited about than low attendances and therefore lower income.
I would love to see attendances go further down in the next two rounds, really love it, and even more to see two U23s, particularly from the Championship, in the final. At the same time I lament the missed chance of two lower league sides having a day out at Wembley - it could still happen, but the odds are stacked against it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2016 8:35:51 GMT
I know this post will get slammed, but think on this, if you really want to protest about this stupid cup, do it in the ground where at least you may get someones attention, maybe even the press. Whose attention did you get? Can you show us the maybe press coverage of your disappointment, rather than that of the low attendances, so we can 'think on it' some more because it seems counter-intuitive so far. Why does anyone have to turn up to realise that the principle of it is wrong? Fair enough, you went, realised it was awful, and left. Your mistake. We all make them. Just don't try and sell that as a triumph of a well thought out approach compared with the rest of us |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 31, 2016 13:02:25 GMT
Mod Comment Lets argue all we want, but can we reign in the personal insults. We have let a lot slide (we are all grown ups after all) but lets debate it properly lets have it straight thought. Mike or harrybuckle did start this and then continued to bait people. I know we are all adults but sometimes it gets a bit much and maybe the perpetrator should have a long look at this |
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Post by Peter Parker on Aug 31, 2016 13:24:57 GMT
Mod Comment Lets argue all we want, but can we reign in the personal insults. We have let a lot slide (we are all grown ups after all) but lets debate it properly lets have it straight thought. Mike or harrybuckle did start this and then continued to bait people. I know we are all adults but sometimes it gets a bit much and maybe the perpetrator should have a long look at this I know i posted that after Chewys latest dig but it is not aimed at him solely. I mentioned before in response to Mike he had IMO been trolling. I dont care who started what to be honest, but the moderators have let a lot slide and i personally let people get on with it as much as possible, but its time to draw a line under the pwrsonal digs and insults Lets debate the rights and wrongs but sensibly |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 31, 2016 13:40:55 GMT
Peter Parker lets have it straight thought. Mike or harrybuckle did start this and then continued to bait people. I know we are all adults but sometimes it gets a bit much and maybe the perpetrator should have a long look at this I know i posted that after Chewys latest dig but it is not aimed at him solely. I mentioned before in response to Mike he had IMO been trolling. I dont care who started what to be honest, but the moderators have let a lot slide and i personally let people get on with it as much as possible, but its time to draw a line under the pwrsonal digs and insults Lets debate the rights and wrongs but sensibly I agree and from my own personal experience of depression and mental health carp, don't go onto forums or the like when in a dark place. T'internet can be very unforgiving and once it's posted, it's there forever. Something I've learned and I certainly have regrets on not pausing before I pressed the post button. |
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Post by Thatslife on Aug 31, 2016 13:41:34 GMT
I know this post will get slammed, but think on this, if you really want to protest about this stupid cup, do it in the ground where at least you may get someones attention, maybe even the press. Whose attention did you get? Can you show us the maybe press coverage of your disappointment, rather than that of the low attendances, so we can 'think on it' some more because it seems counter-intuitive so far. Why does anyone have to turn up to realise that the principle of it is wrong? Fair enough, you went, realised it was awful, and left. Your mistake. We all make them. Just don't try and sell that as a triumph of a well thought out approach compared with the rest of us I did not seek, nor did I want press coverage or any attention. I stated that if a protest was made in the ground then it MAY get press coverage. I went to see for myself what it was like, I wasn't wrong to go, neither do I regret it, I may even go to the Yeovil game. Whilst I accept and agree with it being a crap competition, as I have continually stated, the response from the league will probably be "attendances in the early rounds were always poor, they will pick up as the cup competition progresses" which they will, if BRFC made the final, the gasheads would turn out in force. |
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Post by strung out on Aug 31, 2016 14:25:59 GMT
It strikes me that there was far more press coverage about people not attending than about those who did. For all your rambling about people turning up to protest there, it strikes me that your completely ignoring the fact that most people didn't go and that's turned into a big story now. Mission accomplished (although it would have been an even bigger story if the crowds were lower still).
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Post by strung out on Aug 31, 2016 14:35:36 GMT
It strikes me that there was far more press coverage about people not attending than about those who did. For all your rambling about people turning up to protest there, it strikes me that your completely ignoring the fact that most people didn't go and that's turned into a big story now. Mission accomplished (although it would have been an even bigger story if the crowds were lower still). Press coverage: I fail to see how fans would have gotten more coverage by turning up as the whole point of the articles above is that hardly anyone turned up. |
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Post by DudeLebowski on Aug 31, 2016 15:00:50 GMT
Someone's upset there were no superfan points on offer.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2016 15:10:32 GMT
I register another vote for:
Everyone's free to go or to boycott.
But I support 'to boycott' 100%.
The competition is a travesty.
And a threat to sub-premier league football.
Please boycott.
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Post by Thatslife on Aug 31, 2016 16:23:11 GMT
It strikes me that there was far more press coverage about people not attending than about those who did. For all your rambling about people turning up to protest there, it strikes me that your completely ignoring the fact that most people didn't go and that's turned into a big story now. Mission accomplished (although it would have been an even bigger story if the crowds were lower still). Press coverage: I fail to see how fans would have gotten more coverage by turning up as the whole point of the articles above is that hardly anyone turned up. That's a great piece of hindsight. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2016 16:33:18 GMT
Whose attention did you get? Can you show us the maybe press coverage of your disappointment, rather than that of the low attendances, so we can 'think on it' some more because it seems counter-intuitive so far. Why does anyone have to turn up to realise that the principle of it is wrong? Fair enough, you went, realised it was awful, and left. Your mistake. We all make them. Just don't try and sell that as a triumph of a well thought out approach compared with the rest of us I did not seek, nor did I want press coverage or any attention. I stated that if a protest was made in the ground then it MAY get press coverage. I went to see for myself what it was like, I wasn't wrong to go, neither do I regret it, I may even go to the Yeovil game. Whilst I accept and agree with it being a crap competition, as I have continually stated, the response from the league will probably be "attendances in the early rounds were always poor, they will pick up as the cup competition progresses" which they will, if BRFC made the final, the gasheads would turn out in force. You have every right to go to any game you like, even those that are (and might have been predicted to be) awful, if that's your thing. You've lost me on the 'best way to show disapproval is to behave exactly as normal' approach, but maybe that's my failing. Then again, I didn't so much boycott it, as just not go to something they can shove up their bottom, frankly. Each to their own. I just bridle a bit at sneery posts that kick off with: Well done all you Internet warriors. The only thing you achieved by boycotting the game was errrrrr nothing - especially when the argument seems to get confused after that. You chose to go, fair enough: many of us didn't, can we be afforded the same courtesy? Ta. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2016 17:19:59 GMT
Press coverage: I fail to see how fans would have gotten more coverage by turning up as the whole point of the articles above is that hardly anyone turned up. That's a great piece of hindsight. You what?  |
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Post by strung out on Aug 31, 2016 22:13:38 GMT
Press coverage: I fail to see how fans would have gotten more coverage by turning up as the whole point of the articles above is that hardly anyone turned up. That's a great piece of hindsight. So people boycotted the games in order to protest the changes to the format and get publicity about how the fans aren't happy, they then get that press coverage and all you can say is that it's a great piece of hindsight? You're either very dim or have some kind of hidden agenda against the people on this forum participating in the boycott  |
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Post by Bridgeman on Aug 31, 2016 23:45:25 GMT
I did not seek, nor did I want press coverage or any attention. I stated that if a protest was made in the ground then it MAY get press coverage. I went to see for myself what it was like, I wasn't wrong to go, neither do I regret it, I may even go to the Yeovil game. Whilst I accept and agree with it being a crap competition, as I have continually stated, the response from the league will probably be "attendances in the early rounds were always poor, they will pick up as the cup competition progresses" which they will, if BRFC made the final, the gasheads would turn out in force. You have every right to go to any game you like, even those that are (and might have been predicted to be) awful, if that's your thing. You've lost me on the 'best way to show disapproval is to behave exactly as normal' approach, but maybe that's my failing. Then again, I didn't so much boycott it, as just not go to something they can shove up their bottom, frankly. Each to their own. I just bridle a bit at sneery posts that kick off with: Well done all you Internet warriors. The only thing you achieved by boycotting the game was errrrrr nothing - especially when the argument seems to get confused after that. You chose to go, fair enough: many of us didn't, can we be afforded the same courtesy? Ta. Me too and the FFS is £5 better off too and I'll carry on with my personal 'protest' even if we got to the final. Still haven't spent a penny in Sainsbury's either and neither will I, won't be going to Trashton Gate to watch the rugby either after a life time of support, that's how 'bloody minded' I can be |
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Post by Thatslife on Sept 1, 2016 15:16:31 GMT
You don't really expect to believe you don't know what hindsight iso, but just in case here goes a potted version.
Using facts that happen after an event to justify events that happened before the evenet.
Or in your case, you didn't know there would be press coverage of the low attendance before the matches yet you used the fact that there was in your post.
O sod it I can't be bothered with this anymore
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