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Post by crater on Dec 21, 2014 10:12:53 GMT
From what Nick Higgs said in the summer, Darrell Clarke's contract is up at the end of this season. Irrespective of whether we get promoted or not, I really think the club should be offering him an extended deal (for all I know they might be). Genuinely believe Darrell is building something here and we do not want to lose him and have to start all over again. Of course I know a manager under contract can always still leave but it would be negligent not to at least offer him a new deal and see a bright young manager walk away at the end of the season. If we stick with Darrell he will get us promoted, in my opinion, whether it is this season or not.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2014 10:27:36 GMT
Yes, extend his conract.
He's obviously the best man for the job.
We have just been comfortably beaten, at home, in a competitive fixture by Bath City and were lucky that Gateshead weren't out of sight by half time. 12 months ago I didn't even know that Gateshead had a football team, now we are supposed to hail Clarke as the mesiah because his team squeeze past them by the odd goal in 5.
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Post by crater on Dec 21, 2014 10:39:44 GMT
Yes, extend his conract. He's obviously the best man for the job. We have just been comfortably beaten, at home, in a competitive fixture by Bath City and were lucky that Gateshead weren't out of sight by half time. 12 months ago I didn't even know that Gateshead had a football team, now we are supposed to hail Clarke as the mesiah because his team squeeze past them by the odd goal in 5. Don't remember saying he was a messiah. i would be happy to win the remaining games this season by the odd goal in 5. Are you really that bothered by losing in the Trophy 1st round to a team a division below us? We didn't take the match too seriously and from what I understand none of the teams who are serious about promotion to the football league did. Clearly you have a poor knowledge of football if you hadn't realised Gateshead (a former football league club who were replaced by Peterborough) existed.
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Post by littlestokegas on Dec 21, 2014 10:40:30 GMT
Darrell did a "Homer" on Friday night and took all the credit. Balanta pulled a muscle or hamstring ( I saw him wince and grab the back of his thigh). So with no option, he brought on Clarke who scored a great goal. As far as I am concerned, let us see where we finish at the end of the season before making offers for long term contracts.
Mikee
Reference to Homer above comes from the Simpsons cartoon series, in one particular episode he saved the nuclear plant by guessing which was the correct button to press and being hailed a hero afterwards.
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Post by The Gas on Dec 21, 2014 10:41:34 GMT
No thanks, he has been told what he has to achieve.
Leave it until the end of the season to see if he achieves it. Personally, I do not think he will be the manager on the first game of next season, no matter what division we are in.
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Post by stevek192 on Dec 21, 2014 10:56:35 GMT
I agree and think that we need to wait until the end of the Season but IMO we would be absolutely foolish if we didn't offer him a new deal if he achieved either a Play Off position or in fact Promotion. Because so many of the players are also on 1 year contracts IMO it would be wrong to extend the Managers contract now if the players have to wait to the seasons end to find out their futures. What good for the Goose is good for the Gander as they say!!
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Post by dagnogo on Dec 21, 2014 10:57:26 GMT
He's doing a good job in an atmosphere where a lot of fans backs are up over any defeat because of the division we're in. But no need to extend contracts yet, he has a task, let's see if he can achieve it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2014 11:43:51 GMT
I think he's doing well and that he'll get better. He's only 37!
I do think caution is a good idea given the managerial debacles of the 2001 - 2005 and 2011-14 periods but then again, if he truly is building something worth keeping, do we really want to have to start again in the summer if he goes and so do some players on short contracts?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2014 11:55:25 GMT
Yes, extend his conract. He's obviously the best man for the job. We have just been comfortably beaten, at home, in a competitive fixture by Bath City and were lucky that Gateshead weren't out of sight by half time. 12 months ago I didn't even know that Gateshead had a football team, now we are supposed to hail Clarke as the mesiah because his team squeeze past them by the odd goal in 5. Don't remember saying he was a messiah. i would be happy to win the remaining games this season by the odd goal in 5. Are you really that bothered by losing in the Trophy 1st round to a team a division below us? We didn't take the match too seriously and from what I understand none of the teams who are serious about promotion to the football league did. Clearly you have a poor knowledge of football if you hadn't realised Gateshead (a former football league club who were replaced by Peterborough) existed. Stupid me, of course, Gateshead, it was only 1960 when they dropped out of the League, must try harder to retain information from 54 years ago! Anyway, this incarnation of the club have never played League football, they were formed in 1977. Isn't Google brilliant. Yes, I really am that bothered by losing a competitive fixture to Bath City. Sorry for expecting Rovers to be better than that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2014 11:56:10 GMT
From what Nick Higgs said in the summer, Darrell Clarke's contract is up at the end of this season. Irrespective of whether we get promoted or not, I really think the club should be offering him an extended deal (for all I know they might be). Genuinely believe Darrell is building something here and we do not want to lose him and have to start all over again. Of course I know a manager under contract can always still leave but it would be negligent not to at least offer him a new deal and see a bright young manager walk away at the end of the season. If we stick with Darrell he will get us promoted, in my opinion, whether it is this season or not. That makes sense to me as we are in a rebuilding period, or so you would think, but you are forgetting that an instant return to the football league is the minimum many supporters and obviously the board of Bristol Rovers expect from an inexperienced manager who is still learning his trade working with this lot. Forget forward planning for this shambolically run football club. Quick fix`s still rule in their eyes, and many supporters who have forgotten the previous years of the slippery slope which brought us to the conference. I was hoping that Nick Higgs and co would learn from their mistakes but obviously I'm not holding my breath. A one year plan after all that has gone on in previous seasons is just about right when you think about it. Instant promotion or the sack!?. Why am I not surprised.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2014 11:59:18 GMT
I think he's doing well and that he'll get better. He's only 37! I do think caution is a good idea given the managerial debacles of the 2001 - 2005 and 2011-14 periods but then again, if he truly is building something worth keeping, do we really want to have to start again in the summer if he goes and so do some players on short contracts? Rebuilding? You would have thought so but reading posts on here and from what you hear around the ground, friends in the know etc, that stops at promotion or the door. Laughable as it may sound, that is what I fear for Darrel Clarke. This board doesn't have a clue about forward planning. Quick fix`s rule still I fear.
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Post by crater on Dec 21, 2014 12:09:09 GMT
Don't remember saying he was a messiah. i would be happy to win the remaining games this season by the odd goal in 5. Are you really that bothered by losing in the Trophy 1st round to a team a division below us? We didn't take the match too seriously and from what I understand none of the teams who are serious about promotion to the football league did. Clearly you have a poor knowledge of football if you hadn't realised Gateshead (a former football league club who were replaced by Peterborough) existed. Stupid me, of course, Gateshead, it was only 1960 when they dropped out of the League, must try harder to retain information from 54 years ago! Anyway, this incarnation of the club have never played League football, they were formed in 1977. Isn't Google brilliant. Yes, I really am that bothered by losing a competitive fixture to Bath City. Sorry for expecting Rovers to be better than that. Apology accepted
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2014 12:19:13 GMT
I'd leave it until the end of the season, we started with a poor run, we're now on a hot streak, we could have another poor few games and everyone will be saying he's not right for us. Personally I still think he's got a lot to prove even at this level, the fact he's only 37 is irrelevant, he may well have already peaked as a manager, equally I'm not sure the same skill set is what's needed for FL success.
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Post by Surrey Gas on Dec 21, 2014 12:22:15 GMT
This club needs stability. That means we need to keep the same manager at the helm for a few years. I would be quite happy to see Darrell given time. Conversely, if we lost him at the end of the season I would be very concerned.
Unfortunately, the only consistency within the club is a bungling chairman and his fellow board members.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2014 12:29:15 GMT
This club needs stability. That means we need to keep the same manager at the helm for a few years. I would be quite happy to see Darrell given time. Conversely, if we lost him at the end of the season I would be very concerned. Unfortunately, the only consistency within the club is a bungling chairman and his fellow board members. I agree about the importance of stability, but not at any cost and certainly not at the expense of quality...and I've yet to see much of that commodity in DC.
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Post by Surrey Gas on Dec 21, 2014 12:38:31 GMT
This club needs stability. That means we need to keep the same manager at the helm for a few years. I would be quite happy to see Darrell given time. Conversely, if we lost him at the end of the season I would be very concerned. Unfortunately, the only consistency within the club is a bungling chairman and his fellow board members. I agree about the importance of stability, but not at any cost and certainly not at the expense of quality...and I've yet to see much of that commodity in DC. A bit harsh when we are sitting 3rd in the league having just just come from behind twice to beat one of the best teams I've seen at the Mem this season. We are just missing a 20-30 goal a season striker to get us out of this league but they arent easy to find with our budget
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2014 12:52:50 GMT
Darrell did a "Homer" on Friday night and took all the credit. Balanta pulled a muscle or hamstring ( I saw him wince and grab the back of his thigh). So with no option, he brought on Clarke who scored a great goal. As far as I am concerned, let us see where we finish at the end of the season before making offers for long term contracts. Mikee Reference to Homer above comes from the Simpsons cartoon series, in one particular episode he saved the nuclear plant by guessing which was the correct button to press and being hailed a hero afterwards. its a bit different to that though as dc changed the shape of the midfield and played very narrow without a wide right player,quite clever i thought but maybe you didnt spot the change?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2014 12:54:25 GMT
No thanks, he has been told what he has to achieve. Leave it until the end of the season to see if he achieves it. Personally, I do not think he will be the manager on the first game of next season, no matter what division we are in. why do you think that?
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Post by droitwichgas on Dec 21, 2014 12:59:27 GMT
I was wondering the same as surely NH wouldn't dismiss him if we got promoted? As there's hardly a queue of good managers waiting in the wings to take over?
Although I'm not sure losing to Bath and having a shocking half half re Gatehead, who could have been out of sight by half time, justifies calls for DC to have his contract extended this week? unless the OP is DC's agent/a family member???
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Post by Cheshiregas on Dec 21, 2014 13:02:44 GMT
Whatever you think of DC we are in the play off positions, he has built a team which on Friday night showed real character, and we have people who play for the shirt and the fans. He is not the Messiah but he has been doing a lot better than more knowledgeable, experienced and previously successful managers. But lets not forget this is his job. If we are not prepared to talk and offer any form of security then others will. Do we really want another manager like the last few? I do not believe a one year extension should be an issue.
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