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Post by jozer on Oct 24, 2014 16:14:26 GMT
Geoff used Geoff Dunford on the official forum many years ago, and he would often use the tosser smilie in reply. I am sure someone will back me up on that. Indeed. I remember him doing it on the old OF shortly before he closed it down in 2006. In those days when I was just beginning to wake up to how Box 1 worked I was actually quite shocked by the lack of dignity or class displayed by the Club's Chairman in doing so. Innocent days.
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Post by Peter Parker on Oct 24, 2014 16:28:49 GMT
Geoff certainly knows which buttons to press to get the gullible frothing at the mouth. How long will you all wait for the book until you realise you been had? Great publicity though isn't it! Bet BSS has been advising him.... I expect the title to the book to be like his finest email that he used to reserve to send to those who seriously p***** him off on the old OF... simply '.' Oh yeah, the dreaded black dot
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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 24, 2014 18:07:02 GMT
If you are reading Geoff. Here's your title The Dunford Dairies (see what I did?) will give you my bank account details later for the royalties 'From Banjo to pulling the strings'?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 12:14:16 GMT
I can see the Hidden agenda rising its head again.... Still talking a crock of sh1t then Henbury, law of averages says one day a post you make will be correct.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 12:15:26 GMT
I can see the Hidden agenda rising its head again.... Still talking a crock of sh1t then Henbury, law of averages says one day a post you make will be correct.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Oct 25, 2014 12:35:11 GMT
Speaking of gullible, he doesn't need to write a book to set the record straight when he has hundreds of Gasheads with their heads buried in the sand who will defend him blindly? I'm sure someone is defending Geoff on here but I'll be blowed if I can see who it is. Perhaps you can help me?
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Post by dagnogo on Oct 25, 2014 15:51:19 GMT
Speaking of gullible, he doesn't need to write a book to set the record straight when he has hundreds of Gasheads with their heads buried in the sand who will defend him blindly? I'm sure someone is defending Geoff on here but I'll be blowed if I can see who it is. Perhaps you can help me? Look in the mirror fella
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 16:08:18 GMT
I think it's pretty obvious that NH wants to stand down and will probably do so as soon as the stadium is confirmed to be either on or off. I've no idea whether there is acrimony between GD and NH but under the circumstances it's not surprising that he referred to Jelf and Ware as the future of the club. I agree with other posters that GD has contributed to his own unpopularity but it must be quite difficult not to react when faced with constant abuse and criticism. Some of it is justified but much of it isn't and certain comments have indeed been libelous. At the end of the day, love him or hate him, he has put a lot of time and money into the club. Unless you have issues with him on a personal level I think he should be afforded a modicum of respect. Writing a book isn't the best way to ensure a quiet retirement but the fall out will depend on how controversial it is. He came across well on MIB and although I have never met him personally, nobody I know who has, has ever doubted his commitment to the club. Care to explain exactly how much money he has put into the club that will see no return then? Is it more than the money made from potential sale of Mem, the £5m from the 5 aside business, the money from the beeches, the loan players staying in his hotels, the rent money from former training pitches? It would be good to get a balanced view on this as opposed to the usual nonsense of what great Gasheads he and other directors are in losing millions propping up the club. Spend a bit of time googling and then come back and report what a financial saviour he has been, go on and the rest of ITK fans can have a right good chuckle.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Oct 25, 2014 16:11:06 GMT
Speaking of gullible, he doesn't need to write a book to set the record straight when he has hundreds of Gasheads with their heads buried in the sand who will defend him blindly? I'm sure someone is defending Geoff on here but I'll be blowed if I can see who it is. Perhaps you can help me? Really ? Look at the posts and read between the lines.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Oct 25, 2014 16:11:32 GMT
I'm sure someone is defending Geoff on here but I'll be blowed if I can see who it is. Perhaps you can help me? Look in the mirror fella Nope that didn't help
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Oct 25, 2014 16:13:03 GMT
I'm sure someone is defending Geoff on here but I'll be blowed if I can see who it is. Perhaps you can help me? Really ? Look at the post and read between the lines. Ah your desperately trying to read something that isn't there. Amusingly pathetic
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Post by kingswood Polak on Oct 25, 2014 16:19:00 GMT
I think it's pretty obvious that NH wants to stand down and will probably do so as soon as the stadium is confirmed to be either on or off. I've no idea whether there is acrimony between GD and NH but under the circumstances it's not surprising that he referred to Jelf and Ware as the future of the club. I agree with other posters that GD has contributed to his own unpopularity but it must be quite difficult not to react when faced with constant abuse and criticism. Some of it is justified but much of it isn't and certain comments have indeed been libelous. At the end of the day, love him or hate him, he has put a lot of time and money into the club. Unless you have issues with him on a personal level I think he should be afforded a modicum of respect. Writing a book isn't the best way to ensure a quiet retirement but the fall out will depend on how controversial it is. He came across well on MIB and although I have never met him personally, nobody I know who has, has ever doubted his commitment to the club. Care to explain exactly how much money he has put into the club that will see no return then? Is it more than the money made from potential sale of Mem, the £5m from the 5 aside business, the money from the beeches, the loan players staying in his hotels, the rent money from former training pitches? It would be good to get a balanced view on this as opposed to the usual nonsense of what great Gasheads he and other directors are in losing millions propping up the club. Spend a bit of time googling and then come back and report what a financial saviour he has been, go on and the rest of ITK fans can have a right good chuckle. Thing is, those people that are taken in by his snark, do t want to know. Quite apart from the monies there is the attention and friends he had made from being in the position he was/is. You only have to look on his Twitter to see some of the elevated company he has kept. Had he not been involved with a football club, he would simply have been the Son of a Dairy owner. Same with Nick Higgs. There is a lot of perceived kudos in running/owning a football club BUT there is also a very dark side too. Ask Flávio Brigatore of his experiences at QPR. Many only think this stuff happens in films and in papers but it's very real. I would imagine it very difficult to step away from those benefits and then become an "ordinary" fan
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Post by kingswood Polak on Oct 25, 2014 16:19:53 GMT
Really ? Look at the post and read between the lines. Ah your desperately trying to read something that isn't there. Amusingly pathetic If that's how you see it then fair enough. None so blind as those who will not see.
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Post by dagnogo on Oct 25, 2014 16:20:28 GMT
Don't try and educate these people KP, they're either dumb as a board or are being obtuse.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Oct 25, 2014 16:25:30 GMT
Hope you've both got your orders in. Mind you KP doesn't actually read what is printed so he's wasting his money.
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Post by swissgas on Oct 25, 2014 18:34:44 GMT
No one doubts that Geoff can be cunning and manipulative but the interview shows he has a warm side and is capable of self deprecating humour as well. The story about the old chap handing back his season ticket and the way Geoff handled it is one you would associate with the Bristol Rovers of old with a director being generous enough to seek out the supporter and persuade him to stick with the club. These days I can't imagine Nick doing such a thing and it's more likely the "official" line would be to label the fan a traitor to the cause and to ridicule him as a "non believer". Whether or not this polarization started with Geoff I don't know but I'm sure the "you're either with us or against us" mentality has accelerated during Nick's reign. It doesn't do anyone any good and it sucks the life out of the club.
Another thing which IMO sucks the life out of the club is the constant reference to dates in the future when (if we behave ourselves) we will get good news about the UWE Stadium. Those of us in the outermost circle can have a quiet chuckle about all this but for someone like Geoff, who is used to being in the inner circle, it can't be that easy. Whoever spoke to Graham Russell about the Sainsburys writ was obviously frustrated that fans were not being told the truth and eventually his or her patience broke. I do wonder if fanatical's words were chosen carefully when he or she posted on this thread that the inner circle are all "fully behind Nick in his quest to deliver a new stadium" . We are all behind Nick in his quest to deliver a new stadium because we all want a new stadium for Rovers but that doesn't necessarily mean we agree with the methods he uses or the risks he may be taking. Perhaps Geoff's comments and his references to Chris Jelf and Ed Ware have something to do with that ?
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Post by PessimistGas on Oct 25, 2014 20:48:07 GMT
If Geoff was miffed at Nick Higgs because he was jealous that Nick was about to bring off a dramatic coup by forcing through the deal with Sainsburys and coming up with everything needed to start building in the spring and see the UWE project through to fruition would he start a campaign like this now ? I don't think he would because Geoff isn't stupid and if anything he would be looking to join the bandwagon. On the other hand if Nick was completely isolated, and was the only person who thought a battle with Sainsburys could be won, then Geoff might just conceivably be trying to act in the best interests of the club by encouraging others to challenge Nick. I'm not saying that is the case, and many people will say Geoff only looks after his own interests, but surely it must be a possibility. They used to say that in the Conservative Party the great and good came together in times of crisis to steer the ship away from dangerous waters and I'm wondering if something similar may be happening at Rovers now ? What do the leading lights in the Supporters Club, President Club, senior season ticket holders, the club staff, and others in what mancgas calls "the inner circle" think of the course Nick is taking ? What about the other board members particularly Chris and Ed ? Are they all fully behind him and expect that once the planning decision goes our way Sainsburys will capitulate, the new investors will come aboard and it will be plain sailing as we launch ourselves into the UWE project ? Or do they fear an even worse catastrophe lies ahead if the Captain continues to turn a blind eye to reality. Alternatively, could it be that Nick's plan B is to sell the club to outsiders and even though Geoff will get his money back he is upset that 130 years of local ownership is coming to an end and his vision of being the architect of it continuing in the future, perhaps through Chris and Ed, will not now be fulfilled ? "The Dunford Dairies" eh Peter Parker Nice one. Those mentioned are all behind NH in his quest to deliver a new stadium. It is a great pity that GD has decided to leave the Board because he is an experienced campaigner Yep, GD has numerous failed stadium projects behind him stretching back 3 decades.
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Post by LPGas on Oct 25, 2014 20:57:47 GMT
About five years ago I met him and had a long chat with him. When they finally took over the mem. He was astounded that the rugger boys had paid 1.5 Million for the West stand and he told me that it was more than Peterboro had paid for their main stand. He also said that he could build a 5k seater at the Blackthorn end for a million. The blue stand couldn't be extended because of the bad sight lines, and it was another terrible waste of money by the rugger boys. He had obviously done his homework before we bought it. I have sat near him at 10 or 12 away games and always found him ok,of course I. Only ever had contact away from home because I lived in london for the past 33 years. I am now in Weston. I think that you should speak as you find, and not from rumour or hearsay, which let's face it is rife on this , and every other board. And for all of those supporters who missed the east vile and twerton days and have only known the premier league, well welcome to real football
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 21:13:34 GMT
About five years ago I met him and had a long chat with him. When they finally took over the mem. He was astounded that the rugger boys had paid 1.5 Million for the West stand and he told me that it was more than Peterboro had paid for their main stand. He also said that he could build a 5k seater at the Blackthorn end for a million. The blue stand couldn't be extended because of the bad sight lines, and it was another terrible waste of money by the rugger boys. He had obviously done his homework before we bought it. I have sat near him at 10 or 12 away games and always found him ok,of course I. Only ever had contact away from home because I lived in london for the past 33 years. I am now in Weston. I think that you should speak as you find, and not from rumour or hearsay, which let's face it is rife on this , and every other board. And for all of those supporters who missed the east vile and twerton days and have only known the premier league, well welcome to real football Well, he certainly seems to be good at criticising other people's developments. I wonder what they think about his (a roof on the Blackthorn End)
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Post by dagnogo on Oct 25, 2014 21:14:49 GMT
About five years ago I met him and had a long chat with him. When they finally took over the mem. He was astounded that the rugger boys had paid 1.5 Million for the West stand and he told me that it was more than Peterboro had paid for their main stand. He also said that he could build a 5k seater at the Blackthorn end for a million. The blue stand couldn't be extended because of the bad sight lines, and it was another terrible waste of money by the rugger boys. He had obviously done his homework before we bought it. I have sat near him at 10 or 12 away games and always found him ok,of course I. Only ever had contact away from home because I lived in london for the past 33 years. I am now in Weston. I think that you should speak as you find, and not from rumour or hearsay, which let's face it is rife on this , and every other board. And for all of those supporters who missed the east vile and twerton days and have only known the premier league, well welcome to real football I don't think anyone's claimed that he's a bad person. I know folk who have plenty of nice things to say about him. Does quite a bit for charity too. As for his record at BRFC... The Mem deal was a good one thanks to a Rugby club who were as desperate as they were naive - Geoff, Denis and anyone involved always deserved and got credit for that. But what use is the Mem when we're staring at the very real possibility of another stadium failure and debts that we can't repay? As for your last sentence, that's a bit patronising don't you think? Nobody expects Premier League football. We're not even in the Football League. The Mem redevelopment failed. The UWE pronect looks to be going down the tubes. The board had a setup that worked and they decided to weaken PT by removing LL, then got shocked when PT struggled and sacked him. Then the last 4 years happened. Is it so much to ask for a club that can get 7000 in the door regularly to not be in a lower league than Accrington Stanley and Morecambe, playing teams like Braintree? Maybe anyone who has an issue with the club's shocking downfall should put their feet up and watch Match of the Day instead if we're being so unreasonable?
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