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Post by bloogas on Oct 21, 2024 8:54:11 GMT
Let's concentrate on beating Shrewsbury return of Marquis Hoole & Rossiter what could go wrong! one Game at a time please Yes indeed, what could possibly go wrong.....
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Oct 21, 2024 10:10:29 GMT
I don't know if Ian Holloway is the man for Rovers these days,maybe,maybe not. I would however,after witnessing this MT era,like to see some throw the dice football,tally ho football. Attack and damn the consequences! I imagine the current squad would enjoy it too. They did just that at Peterborough second half. Posh sat back on a 3-0 lead and we literally ran all over them, clawing two back and nearly a third. Where’s that team disappeared to?
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Post by baselswh on Oct 21, 2024 12:23:53 GMT
I don't know if Ian Holloway is the man for Rovers these days,maybe,maybe not. I would however,after witnessing this MT era,like to see some throw the dice football,tally ho football. Attack and damn the consequences! I imagine the current squad would enjoy it too. They did just that at Peterborough second half. Posh sat back on a 3-0 lead and we literally ran all over them, clawing two back and nearly a third. Where’s that team disappeared to? Good question CPB. The Charlton and Burton victories is why I hoped we could maybe get a result at Huddersfield. Some unhappy players? Weak willed players? A Manager that has almost lost them?
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 21, 2024 12:50:02 GMT
Blimey, this is all a bit miserable!
I’m looking forward to tomorrow, under lights at the Mem, chance to go up the league. I’d imagine there will be a good atmosphere with the opposition having several ex-players. Of course performances have been a bit inconsistent but win tomorrow and it will make it 3 league wins out of 4 (not that I’m taking anything for granted). Reading this place atm I’d have thought we were anchored to the foot of the table, instead of having a chance to go higher after tomorrow.
People appear to love spending other people’s money by continually thinking it’s the managers fault. Of course he carries the majority of the responsibility but not all. We’re already paying for JB+ and if MT a was sacked we could be paying for 3 lots of management teams. Absolute madness. As a few have said MT must be given a fair chance and to me that means Christmas at least. On past experience I’m not sure sacking a manager and replacing has worked for us, recently it got worse rather than better Only GC in recent times improved us. In the end it will be the results that decide if MT stays or goes. Lower mid table and he’ll be ok, lower in the relegation spaces and he’ll be in danger.
There seem to be more and more ‘fair weather’ fans nowadays. It’s easy to support us after the D/R and Scunthorpe matches and when we go up but harder when we have a run of bad results. But it’s those times when the manager, players, club need the support more than ever instead of the continual moaning we seem to have at the moment.
Anyway, I’m looking forward to tomorrow night and hopefully 3 points. COYB!
UTG!
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Post by alanrg on Oct 21, 2024 13:48:13 GMT
Noticed next Saturday is the anniversary of JB sacking will history repeat it self with Matt Taylor
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Post by ltdgas on Oct 21, 2024 18:13:42 GMT
Blimey, this is all a bit miserable! I’m looking forward to tomorrow, under lights at the Mem, chance to go up the league. I’d imagine there will be a good atmosphere with the opposition having several ex-players. Of course performances have been a bit inconsistent but win tomorrow and it will make it 3 league wins out of 4 (not that I’m taking anything for granted). Reading this place atm I’d have thought we were anchored to the foot of the table, instead of having a chance to go higher after tomorrow. People appear to love spending other people’s money by continually thinking it’s the managers fault. Of course he carries the majority of the responsibility but not all. We’re already paying for JB+ and if MT a was sacked we could be paying for 3 lots of management teams. Absolute madness. As a few have said MT must be given a fair chance and to me that means Christmas at least. On past experience I’m not sure sacking a manager and replacing has worked for us, recently it got worse rather than better Only GC in recent times improved us. In the end it will be the results that decide if MT stays or goes. Lower mid table and he’ll be ok, lower in the relegation spaces and he’ll be in danger. There seem to be more and more ‘fair weather’ fans nowadays. It’s easy to support us after the D/R and Scunthorpe matches and when we go up but harder when we have a run of bad results. But it’s those times when the manager, players, club need the support more than ever instead of the continual moaning we seem to have at the moment. Anyway, I’m looking forward to tomorrow night and hopefully 3 points. COYB! UTG! I think it’s time for mt to go , I’m not sure it’s my fault if we ended up paying 3 managers , that’s surely down to bad decisions by the owners And I’ve had some horrendous journeys on the 250/ 300 mile round trip to a home match , never mind the soaking at the matches , so far from a fair weather supporter 😜😂, I personally don’t think they will sack him , as you say will cost to much , I think theyl hang on unless it’s looking desperate
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Post by The Concept on Oct 21, 2024 20:01:16 GMT
All of those, with the exception of Birmingham and possibly Wrexham, are quite winnable. Shrewsbury and Reading as our next two games gives us a chance to get some impetus going into Lincoln at home, which will be tough.
We could get a result against Lincoln or Bolton at home.
However, in the Barton relegation season, we lost winnable game after winnable game.
Another reason to give MT until Christmas
No. Taylor couldn't inspire a Eagle high on red bull and cocaine right now. We have won games despite of him, we have talent in our sqaud that's what has kept him in his job. He knows that he is a footballing dead man walking here. Crowds a dramatically down,fans are against him. He is waiting to be fired to get the payoff. It's over. Again I will and Ive said this before, if he is in charge all season we are in L2 next August. To date, crowds are only down by an average of 56 souls per game on last season. That's a net total of 280 people over the course of 5 games, compared to last season. First 5 games last season average = 7,815. First 5 games this season average = 7,759.
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 21, 2024 21:04:40 GMT
Noticed next Saturday is the anniversary of JB sacking will history repeat it self with Matt Taylor So tomorrow night v Shrewsbury is the equivalent midweek match to the 1-1 Stevenage match last year. I hope tomorrow is better. UTG!
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Oct 22, 2024 9:25:54 GMT
In my opinion, the main culprit in all this is the madcap mass recruitment policy aimed at making a quick profit. Wael, if anyone, should be aware of the negative impact of such madness after it failed miserably with the hiring of ”Big Ben” and the recruitment of a bunch of ”promising” young players to sell on at a profit, who started like world beaters and ended up like a heap of woodworm dust. Barton turned it around by bringing in players he’d worked with before and who he knew was on his side - basically a scouse eleven that he built the team spine around. Getting rid of so much experience to give Taylor a clean sheet was ridiculous and part of the reason that he stands there today like a polar bear floating around on a block of ice. The squad we have now is a lot more promising than BG’s and have shown glimpses of what they are capable of. It’s not all tentative dross so we should stand by him a while longer however painful it is to watch because starting from scratch yet again could be suicidal.
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Post by barleycorn48 on Oct 22, 2024 13:29:54 GMT
Spot on. cabbagepatch.
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Post by bluetornados on Oct 22, 2024 21:33:25 GMT
If we hold on to Sacking MT until Christmas, a new manager will have to then come in during January to sign players, staff and so on...
What League position will we be in going on the fixture list below:
October22nd - Shrewsbury (h) - 1-0 win26th - Reading (a) November9th - Lincoln (h) 16th - Crawley (h) 23rd - Mansfield - (a) December3rd - Orient (a) 7th - Bolton (h) 14th - Birmingham (a) 21st - Wrexham (h) 26th - Exeter (a) 29th - Stevenage (a) Updated
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Post by Icegas on Oct 22, 2024 23:35:25 GMT
In my opinion, the main culprit in all this is the madcap mass recruitment policy aimed at making a quick profit. Wael, if anyone, should be aware of the negative impact of such madness after it failed miserably with the hiring of ”Big Ben” and the recruitment of a bunch of ”promising” young players to sell on at a profit, who started like world beaters and ended up like a heap of woodworm dust. Barton turned it around by bringing in players he’d worked with before and who he knew was on his side - basically a scouse eleven that he built the team spine around. Getting rid of so much experience to give Taylor a clean sheet was ridiculous and part of the reason that he stands there today like a polar bear floating around on a block of ice. The squad we have now is a lot more promising than BG’s and have shown glimpses of what they are capable of. It’s not all tentative dross so we should stand by him a while longer however painful it is to watch because starting from scratch yet again could be suicidal. There is some truth to this. I myself believe this squad currently is a mid table/ top half one with a good manager. I would like to have seen Barton with this group.There is alot of potential in this squad if we add correctly and have the right person in charge. We are getting results, we either win or lose and apart from Wycombe we have beaten most of the sides that we should have. It's just that under Taylor it doesn't feel right.His record is terrible,he doesn't inspire ( I cant stand and dont watch his interviews💤🏳) and we seen to win despite of him and his tactics. Something is majorly not right on the footballing side of things,and each win we get just delays the inevitable of him leaving and we will keep losing heavily away between wins. We are that floating polar bear as said above.
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Post by chelt_gas on Oct 23, 2024 2:19:49 GMT
Maybe Taylor just needs some media training so he comes across more passionate and warm to the viewers.
The supporters (every club) can also play their part in just staying calm and not vocalising their uncontrolled feelings on every social media platform. I'm relieved that I don't have a few hundred knuckleheads calling my CEO to sack me because they have differing unqualified views on how things should be run.
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 23, 2024 8:42:51 GMT
Blimey, this is all a bit miserable! I’m looking forward to tomorrow, under lights at the Mem, chance to go up the league. I’d imagine there will be a good atmosphere with the opposition having several ex-players. Of course performances have been a bit inconsistent but win tomorrow and it will make it 3 league wins out of 4 (not that I’m taking anything for granted). Reading this place atm I’d have thought we were anchored to the foot of the table, instead of having a chance to go higher after tomorrow. People appear to love spending other people’s money by continually thinking it’s the managers fault. Of course he carries the majority of the responsibility but not all. We’re already paying for JB+ and if MT a was sacked we could be paying for 3 lots of management teams. Absolute madness. As a few have said MT must be given a fair chance and to me that means Christmas at least. On past experience I’m not sure sacking a manager and replacing has worked for us, recently it got worse rather than better Only GC in recent times improved us. In the end it will be the results that decide if MT stays or goes. Lower mid table and he’ll be ok, lower in the relegation spaces and he’ll be in danger. There seem to be more and more ‘fair weather’ fans nowadays. It’s easy to support us after the D/R and Scunthorpe matches and when we go up but harder when we have a run of bad results. But it’s those times when the manager, players, club need the support more than ever instead of the continual moaning we seem to have at the moment. Anyway, I’m looking forward to tomorrow night and hopefully 3 points. COYB! UTG! I think it’s time for mt to go , I’m not sure it’s my fault if we ended up paying 3 managers , that’s surely down to bad decisions by the owners And I’ve had some horrendous journeys on the 250/ 300 mile round trip to a home match , never mind the soaking at the matches , so far from a fair weather supporter 😜😂, I personally don’t think they will sack him , as you say will cost to much , I think theyl hang on unless it’s looking desperate I meant ‘fair weather’ in the sense of when we win it’s all good but when we lose sack the manager feel to the forums. No disrespect meant to you and having done the same as you yesterday with the round trip I know the time, effort and money you spend to do so. And if you had as many diversions getting home that I did even more respect!! 👍 UTG!
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Oct 23, 2024 9:04:56 GMT
In my opinion, the main culprit in all this is the madcap mass recruitment policy aimed at making a quick profit. Wael, if anyone, should be aware of the negative impact of such madness after it failed miserably with the hiring of ”Big Ben” and the recruitment of a bunch of ”promising” young players to sell on at a profit, who started like world beaters and ended up like a heap of woodworm dust. Barton turned it around by bringing in players he’d worked with before and who he knew was on his side - basically a scouse eleven that he built the team spine around. Getting rid of so much experience to give Taylor a clean sheet was ridiculous and part of the reason that he stands there today like a polar bear floating around on a block of ice. The squad we have now is a lot more promising than BG’s and have shown glimpses of what they are capable of. It’s not all tentative dross so we should stand by him a while longer however painful it is to watch because starting from scratch yet again could be suicidal. There is some truth to this. I myself believe this squad currently is a mid table/ top half one with a good manager. I would like to have seen Barton with this group.There is alot of potential in this squad if we add correctly and have the right person in charge. We are getting results, we either win or lose and apart from Wycombe we have beaten most of the sides that we should have. It's just that under Taylor it doesn't feel right.His record is terrible,he doesn't inspire ( I cant stand and dont watch his interviews💤🏳) and we seen to win despite of him and his tactics. Something is majorly not right on the footballing side of things,and each win we get just delays the inevitable of him leaving and we will keep losing heavily away between wins. We are that floating polar bear as said above. Barton would get even less out of this squad than Taylor does. He is a very mediocre manager who achieved very little despite having two large playing budgets with us and Fleetwood. He’d also have hung out to dry a number of the players in public by now. Thankfully with his off the field antics he is unlikely to find another football club deranged enough to employ him. Anyone wishing him to be within 100 miles of BS7 needs to give their head a permanent wobble
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Post by Icegas on Oct 23, 2024 9:18:18 GMT
There is some truth to this. I myself believe this squad currently is a mid table/ top half one with a good manager. I would like to have seen Barton with this group.There is alot of potential in this squad if we add correctly and have the right person in charge. We are getting results, we either win or lose and apart from Wycombe we have beaten most of the sides that we should have. It's just that under Taylor it doesn't feel right.His record is terrible,he doesn't inspire ( I cant stand and dont watch his interviews💤🏳) and we seen to win despite of him and his tactics. Something is majorly not right on the footballing side of things,and each win we get just delays the inevitable of him leaving and we will keep losing heavily away between wins. We are that floating polar bear as said above. Barton would get even less out of this squad than Taylor does. He is a very mediocre manager who achieved very little despite having two large playing budgets with us and Fleetwood. He’d also have hung out to dry a number of the players in public by now. Thankfully with his off the field antics he is unlikely to find another football club deranged enough to employ him. Anyone wishing him to be within 100 miles of BS7 needs to give their head a permanent wobble Did I say that I wanted him back,I just posted a question.
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Oct 23, 2024 10:37:11 GMT
No you didn’t, and I didn’t say you had either 🙂
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Post by baselswh on Oct 23, 2024 11:26:42 GMT
There is some truth to this. I myself believe this squad currently is a mid table/ top half one with a good manager. I would like to have seen Barton with this group.There is alot of potential in this squad if we add correctly and have the right person in charge. We are getting results, we either win or lose and apart from Wycombe we have beaten most of the sides that we should have. It's just that under Taylor it doesn't feel right.His record is terrible,he doesn't inspire ( I cant stand and dont watch his interviews💤🏳) and we seen to win despite of him and his tactics. Something is majorly not right on the footballing side of things,and each win we get just delays the inevitable of him leaving and we will keep losing heavily away between wins. We are that floating polar bear as said above. Barton would get even less out of this squad than Taylor does. He is a very mediocre manager who achieved very little despite having two large playing budgets with us and Fleetwood. He’d also have hung out to dry a number of the players in public by now. Thankfully with his off the field antics he is unlikely to find another football club deranged enough to employ him. Anyone wishing him to be within 100 miles of BS7 needs to give their head a permanent wobble Barton has more football knowledge and experience in his little finger than MTs entire career.
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Post by baldrick on Oct 23, 2024 11:28:51 GMT
Barton would get even less out of this squad than Taylor does. He is a very mediocre manager who achieved very little despite having two large playing budgets with us and Fleetwood. He’d also have hung out to dry a number of the players in public by now. Thankfully with his off the field antics he is unlikely to find another football club deranged enough to employ him. Anyone wishing him to be within 100 miles of BS7 needs to give their head a permanent wobble Barton has more football knowledge and experience in his little finger than MTs entire career. That doesn't make a good manager though.
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Post by baselswh on Oct 23, 2024 11:30:18 GMT
Barton has more football knowledge and experience in his little finger than MTs entire career. That doesn't make a good manager though. True,but the Scousers understood him.
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