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Post by kingswood Polak on May 6, 2024 23:34:48 GMT
TG has removed choice from the fanbase (cashless) and marginalised a section of fans, some of whom have been loyal for years, in the interests of and pursuit of what it costs, when a club like ours and an ageing fanbase it would be proportionately little cost and time to please everyone. If a business treats it's customers, happy paying customers like this no wonder some of the staff, volunteers, associated fanbase groups (and I've heard) opposition dignitaries have been left by the wayside too. If flashing a card is convenient for you that's all good and well for you....but spare a thought for some others that struggle with this. Some clubs have opted this way, but once you step outside of bs7, many many other establishments, businesses in all walks of life accept both payments from restaurant to pubs, shopping to public transport. I know of at least 2 people that struggle with mental health issues (I think one had an iva issue some years ago) and just helps by regulating their expenditure with a note or coin because that's the way they can function....they know the net is closing in slowly - perhaps they won't be around by the time choice is taken away - but hey no one gives a fig as long as TG made the decision that just doesn't affect him. Or you, reading this, probably. But there are fans out there that would prefer a choice, they're paying customers not corporate or business busy business folk, they're working people that now have had the choice taken away from them! Nice one, TG.. Great post o2 |
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 6, 2024 23:46:13 GMT
TG has removed choice from the fanbase (cashless) and marginalised a section of fans, some of whom have been loyal for years, in the interests of and pursuit of what it costs, when a club like ours and an ageing fanbase it would be proportionately little cost and time to please everyone. If a business treats it's customers, happy paying customers like this no wonder some of the staff, volunteers, associated fanbase groups (and I've heard) opposition dignitaries have been left by the wayside too. If flashing a card is convenient for you that's all good and well for you....but spare a thought for some others that struggle with this. Some clubs have opted this way, but once you step outside of bs7, many many other establishments, businesses in all walks of life accept both payments from restaurant to pubs, shopping to public transport. I know of at least 2 people that struggle with mental health issues (I think one had an iva issue some years ago) and just helps by regulating their expenditure with a note or coin because that's the way they can function....they know the net is closing in slowly - perhaps they won't be around by the time choice is taken away - but hey no one gives a fig as long as TG made the decision that just doesn't affect him. Or you, reading this, probably. But there are fans out there that would prefer a choice, they're paying customers not corporate or business busy business folk, they're working people that now have had the choice taken away from them! Nice one, TG.. I really struggle with this. Every current account issues a card with it. In old money it was a cheque guarantee card. Is there anybody, anywhere, that writes cheques anymore? That card is now, as a minimum, a chip and pin card, how else does one withdraw cash? Most these days are contactless, what's the issue? The cost of insurance for having cash on site is not insignificant, the cost of daily reconciliation is not insignificant, the cost of banking cash (labour+bank charges) is not insignificant. One, simple, transaction like tapping your card to buy a pint or a pie saves everyone costs and it's easy I mean really, what the very f""k are people on about. You shock me given our shared views. From my perspective I prefer cash as I can be frivolous with a card. Cash, I take x amount, when it’s gone, I leave and have not overspent. As has been said, each card transaction has a charge. We have a fan base older than most, there are a fair few without smart phone , my best mate doesn’t have one so, when I still attended I bought tickets. Just because you fund it no problem does not mean others are the same Les. I am genuinely shocked at you not empathising. One cannot generalise, not in anything. it’s made problems with queues, people turn away from food and drinks and problems for 50:50. Funny how the club accepted cash when the machines go offline eh. I think you are overstating the cost of using cash. It has stopped some from coming as I know a few. Some of us like to budget. It’s too easy to overspend when spending is made easy. why so hostile ? |
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 6, 2024 23:50:33 GMT
A good point about IVA's,some people are just hopeless with money its not their fault its just how they are,on Radio 4 recently they said the amount of cash being used had gone up for the first time in years because a lot of people found it easier to budget by using cash. Good post. I know one fella at work....not Gas related....that has his wages paid into his wife's account and she regulates his spending and their bill paying! I mean, imagine that? That would be a horror life for some! But after all the ridicule (he's actually quite brave disclosing this) he shrugs his shoulders and readily admits he's cr@p with numbers and money. A new world for me. I never knew these sort of people existed. I gave my earnings to my parents when I gambled and got into 14k of debt. I did this to not be tempted and to also pay my parents back the debt they paid off. I never took my wages until I paid that back, 5 years later |
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 6, 2024 23:57:50 GMT
That's exactly it... You struggle to understand. But it doesn't make it invalid that some prefer choice of taking a note out and knowing exactly where they stand. Or at least exercising that option if they so wish. The principle of marginalisation of a small proportion of the fanbase is lost on TG and some. But hey as long as it works for them, that's fine. Oh and interesting that the insurance cost for having cash on site, and reconciliation and banking charges are conveniently waived when the systems go down - and they have - more than once! On the last point, of course. But they are not waived, they are born by the retailer. Nobody is marginalising anyone because nobody is denied access. It's a choice. Why should the retailer or other members of the public bare costs driven by the choice of an absolute minority? Taking this to it's silliest outcome, should we allow for cheques to be written at the point of purchase? If not, why not? There is a solution to this, the retailer could add 10p per transaction for cash payments. There you are, choice. The cards charge for each transaction Les |
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 7, 2024 0:02:44 GMT
There are lots of people like that,not trying to out do you but a bloke I worked with used to take a few days holiday (or sick) before payday as he didnt have money for fuel/bus fare,he told me that he couldnt afford to have the heating on so he had to stay in bed to stay warm. This is the sort of thing that should be taught at school,far more use than learning the chemical symbol for inert gases etc. Years ago I was weekly paid (or weakly paid as I told my manager) when we finally went to monthly pay several blokes found that their money didnt last the month,they worked on 4 weeks per month which meant that they were short of 4 weeks money over a year. Wow....not surprised. Good post where I don't like that it happens but like that you've posted it . Unfortunately, (and I am lucky I am not in that zone) these unpalatable subjects and anecdotes aren't easily talked about or discussed in polite society.... it's just easier to forget it and flash your card - kerching! - and no one questions the butcombe bar charging £5 for a lime and soda until they sat down! ? And the ignorance is bliss continues. Not just lucky but blessed. Life can change is a millisecond and most of working age are just 2 paychecks away from serious trouble. Stay humble my friend |
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 7, 2024 0:12:11 GMT
I dislike cash, myself, but I think one ought to understand the perspective of those who prefer it, for various reasons. I can see the argument for a cashfree Mem, though. Fair post as ever from feathery pillow pal. The beauty is: Mem has genuinely lost a few quid, probably made more for greedy TG, but definitely lost some because a merry band or two choose to take their custom elsewhere....and pay their chosen way, in a chosen venue. So imagine the glee for some, that somewhere like the fruit market isn't going ahead because the meglamaniac TG wanted a complete sweep captive audience of cashless with no diverse options nearby.....he ain't getting it all now! Megalomaniac edited due to a typo on an erratic iPad , nicely picked up by @shoveler Sorry. I love the language due to it being my second language. I know you will not take umbrage but my apologies as I like it when someone corrects any mistakes I make. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 7, 2024 0:29:02 GMT
I hope in the general negative feelings towards TG we don’t start getting too personal. Criticising decisions made, administrative cock-ups, the general feeling about his ability as a CEO and his tendency to control who interviews him is ok but best not to stoop to comments about his personal quirks. I think we’ve got close to doing that and I think we’re all better than that on here. Just saying. UTG! In the main I agree but when speaking the truth, is that being personal and especially when the man talks to longstanding fans with derision and disinterest ? For their privacy I will not name them but he has not endeared himself to a fair few. I believe that if you give it out, you should be able to take it. I see nothing that is particularly nasty nor anything scatological in nature |
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 7, 2024 0:35:09 GMT
What happened/what did he do? After making this strong statement regarding Gorringe, alloutofgas needs to say what happened. UTG He is not wrong. I will leave it at that for the sake of privacy of those involved. Personally I do not care right now. I do not feel connected to this club, not in any way |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2024 5:12:04 GMT
Meglalomaniac. Sorry. I love the language due to it being my second language. I know you will not take umbrage but my apologies as I like it when someone corrects any mistakes I make. Megalomaniac! |
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 7, 2024 9:15:40 GMT
Meglalomaniac. Sorry. I love the language due to it being my second language. I know you will not take umbrage but my apologies as I like it when someone corrects any mistakes I make. Megalomaniac! 😝. Nice one my friend , it was a typo on an erratic and very mixed up ipad, which now doesn’t know whether I’m writing English or Polish 😝 |
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Post by harrybuckle on Aug 6, 2024 16:12:57 GMT
Official announcement from Club TG leaving as CEO at the end of the month.
New owners presumably bringing in their own replacement?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 6, 2024 16:23:17 GMT
Official announcement from Club TG leaving as CEO at the end of the month. New owners presumably bringing in their own replacement? Jump before pushed? Maybe they're outsourcing his position too? Oh the irony! |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 6, 2024 16:37:19 GMT
Bristol Rovers can confirm that Chief Executive Officer Tom Gorringe will be leaving his post at the end of August 2024.
Tom joined the Club in 2017, originally as Commercial Director, before taking the role of CEO in 2021.
Tom said: “It has been a privilege to represent the Club over the past seven years. The Board has exciting plans for the stadium, the training ground, and on the pitch. I hope that the Club can continue to progress on all fronts.
“Thank you to all the staff and our supporters who have made my time here so memorable. UTG!”
Everyone at the Club would like to wish Tom all the best in his future endeavours.
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Post by harrybuckle on Aug 6, 2024 17:16:42 GMT
Some new appointments at Brfc
Ritchie Bates | Commercial & Revenue Director
Ritchie Bates joins Bristol Rovers with 12 years of experience across the EFL with Port Vale, Lincoln City and Macclesfield Town. Having helped to significantly grow the revenue streams at his former clubs, Ritchie will now oversee partnerships, retail, ticketing and revenue at Rovers.
John Stanley | Club Secretary
John Stanley brings extensive experience to the Club Secretary role at Bristol Rovers, moving to The Memorial Stadium after three years with AFC Wimbledon. Stanley also previously served in a similar capacity with Brighton & Hove Albion and also worked with The FA and UEFA.
Mitch Waddon | Head Of Media
Mitch Waddon joined Bristol Rovers at the end of the 2023/24 season after eight years working with West Ham United. With a decade of work at the highest level in football, Mitch brings Premier League and European experience to Rovers and will lead the club’s media and communications strategy moving forward.
Kelly Harris-Wiltshire | Head Of Venue
With three decades of experience as a chef and 15 years of working in football, Kelly Harris-Wiltshire originally joined Bristol Rovers as first-team chef before moving into the executive chef role at The Memorial Stadium. As Head of Venue, Kelly will drive forward the Club’s provision for the team and for supporters.
Pete Weymouth | Retail & Ticketing Manager
Pete Weymouth is entering his fourth season with Bristol Rovers. Having joined the club as the stadium store supervisor, Pete would take responsibility for away ticketing at Rovers before moving into his current role overseeing both retail and ticketing for the Pirates.
James Hillier | Stadium & Safety Manager
In his role as Stadium & Safety Manager, James Hillier oversees Bristol Rovers’ operational and security protocols, and ensures the wellbeing of all who attend The Memorial Stadium. James previously worked in a similar capacity at Yeovil Town for 20 years.
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Post by a more piratey game on Aug 6, 2024 17:31:55 GMT
Bristol Rovers can confirm that Chief Executive Officer Tom Gorringe will be leaving his post at the end of August 2024. Tom joined the Club in 2017, originally as Commercial Director, before taking the role of CEO in 2021. Tom said: “It has been a privilege to represent the Club over the past seven years. The Board has exciting plans for the stadium, the training ground, and on the pitch. I hope that the Club can continue to progress on all fronts. “Thank you to all the staff and our supporters who have made my time here so memorable. UTG!” Everyone at the Club would like to wish Tom all the best in his future endeavours. that's a very decent innings in a football club I think - 7 years total, 2 different roles including promotion to CEO thanks and best wishes to you TG |
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Post by bluetornados on Aug 6, 2024 21:17:56 GMT
Bristol Rovers CEO Tom Gorringe to depart after seven years as Gas name new senior structure..By Daniel Hargraves
Tom Gorringe joined Bristol Rovers in 2017 as Commercial Director and became CEO in 2021i2-prod.bristolpost.co.uk/incoming/article9456464.ece/ALTERNATES/s1176b/0_3514036-1.jpgBristol Rovers CEO Tom Gorringe will depart the club at the end of August, the club have confirmed, after seven years of service dating back to 2017. Gorringe last publicly addressed supporters on the panel of the Supporters Club's Fans' Q&A in February alongside Executive Vice President Abdullatif AlSaeed, first-team manager Matt Taylor, Director of Football George Friend and former player Antony Evans who joined Huddersfield Town last month. It had been the first time AlSaeed spoke publicly with fans since his father and Rovers co-owner and Chairman Hussain AlSaeed purchased a 55 per cent stake of the club's holding company Dwane Sports, who hold a majority share. The Gas CEO has been working alongside the Kuwaitis since their takeover was completed a year ago. However, Bristol Live understands that Gorringe has become increasingly marginalised under the new regime and has had little to do with the various decision making that has taken place at The Mem including increases in the pricing structure around matchday tickets. Prior to the takeover, the chief executive had overseen the start of the South Stand development with the project very much his brainchild. Having previously worked at Cardiff City, Portsmouth and Brighton and Hove Albion, Gorringe joined Rovers in 2017 as Commercial Director and was promoted to the board in 2020 by co-owner and Club President Wael Al-Qadi as a result of strong performance and impressing supporters with his accessibility, particularly on Twitter, now known as X. He also had a column in the matchday programme which stopped midway through last season. He was then promoted to his current role as head of the board in November 2021 as Martyn Starnes' successor who had been at the club for three years. Rovers advertised for a new COO (Chief Operating Officer) in May but later changed the job title to Operations Manager with it currently unclear whether the role has yet been filled. The job specification seemed to have significant overlap to the role of CEO with it stating that the successful candidate would "report to the Board of Directors" while overseeing "oall operations within the club." In the club's official statement, Gorringe said: “It has been a privilege to represent the club over the past seven years. The board has exciting plans for the stadium, the training ground, and on the pitch. I hope that the club can continue to progress on all fronts. “Thank you to all the staff and our supporters who have made my time here so memorable. UTG!” Meanwhile, the Gas have now announced their new senior leadership structure with Ritchie Bates (Commercial and Revenue Director) and John Stanley (Club Secretary) new to the club. Bates joins with 12 years of EFL experience having had spells at Port Vale, Lincoln City and Mansfield Town and will "oversee partnerships, retail, ticketing and revenue at Rovers. Meanwhile, Stanley spent three years at AFC Wimbledon and also worked in a similar capacity at Brighton and Hove Albion as well as working with the FA and UEFA. Additionally, Mitch Waddon (Head of Media), Kelly Harris-Wiltshire (Head of Venue), Pete Weymouth (Retail and Ticketing Manager) and James Hillier (Stadium and Safety Manager) make up the rest of the senior leadership structure at Rovers, the club have announced.
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Post by bondigas on Aug 7, 2024 7:24:29 GMT
This is no surprise, he came across as a very weak individual totally out of his depth for the job as CEO and was nothing more than Waels pet poodle who allowed the scouse mafia to run riot.
The club for sure will now be on a better footing which must be a good thing.
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Post by eppinggas on Aug 7, 2024 8:55:07 GMT
This is no surprise, he came across as a very weak individual totally out of his depth for the job as CEO and was nothing more than Waels pet poodle who allowed the scouse mafia to run riot. The club for sure will now be on a better footing which must be a good thing. The surprise was it took so long for this to come to pass. TG was a 'yes man' who oversaw stagnation and backed some staggeringly bad decisions - giving the keys to the scouse mafia being the least excusable. Add to that poor communication with the fan base - though to be fair not much changed there since the new owners came in. Over a year now. Plus ca change. |
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Post by a more piratey game on Aug 7, 2024 10:07:41 GMT
This is no surprise, he came across as a very weak individual totally out of his depth for the job as CEO and was nothing more than Waels pet poodle who allowed the scouse mafia to run riot. The club for sure will now be on a better footing which must be a good thing. man with a young family does what his boss wants so stays employed and gains experience bloke on the internet thinks he's not very good at the job, and uses degrading language to express his point of view TG wins |
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Post by russiangas on Aug 7, 2024 12:02:25 GMT
This is no surprise, he came across as a very weak individual totally out of his depth for the job as CEO and was nothing more than Waels pet poodle who allowed the scouse mafia to run riot. The club for sure will now be on a better footing which must be a good thing. man with a young family does what his boss wants so stays employed and gains experience bloke on the internet thinks he's not very good at the job, and uses degrading language to express his point of view TG wins The question is though will the new owners' appointments be any better? So far I don't think you can say MT has been a particularly good manager, we will see how that changes this coming season with a team that he has had more influence on putting together. The new owners seem to have more ambition, but if success isn't achieved in the three years they keep talking about what happens then? I guess we just have to see how things pan out this season, obviously I hope things improve significantly and wouldn't want to make too many predictions. |
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