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Post by oldie on Nov 9, 2023 11:39:52 GMT
Cash isn’t king anymore HB. Cash is a pain in the arse to account for when you have multiple vending outlets, is open to fraud and theft and it also costs you time and extra banking charges to pay in. Everyone has a card. Does my Communist Party of Great Britain card count? |
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Post by alloutofgas on Nov 9, 2023 11:46:29 GMT
I think the bloke has systematically stripped the heart out of the club. Getting rid of nearly all the staff (volunteers, part timers and those who were part of the furniture) and stupid initiatives like card only payment. Good riddance. Card only payment is the correct commercial decision. If I was running a business I would make it as easy as possible for customers to pay me by any means. Not everyone has digital means of payment so it is fundamentally discriminatory. Going cashless is a false economy. |
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Post by texasgas on Nov 9, 2023 11:51:44 GMT
Does my Communist Party of Great Britain card count? If it’s linked to your bank account then yes most definitely |
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Post by texasgas on Nov 9, 2023 11:54:05 GMT
Card only payment is the correct commercial decision. If I was running a business I would make it as easy as possible for customers to pay me by any means. Not everyone has digital means of payment so it is fundamentally discriminatory. Going cashless is a false economy. In your imaginary business do you accept crypto currency? |
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Post by laughinggas on Nov 9, 2023 11:54:24 GMT
Card only payment is the correct commercial decision. If I was running a business I would make it as easy as possible for customers to pay me by any means. Not everyone has digital means of payment so it is fundamentally discriminatory. Going cashless is a false economy. Yet many small businesses have a minimum amount for using a card. That does not make it easy for us old fools who don't carry cash. |
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Post by One F in Dunford on Nov 9, 2023 12:16:21 GMT
Fake news. Only emailed him 2 days ago and got a reply. Still in post. Don’t spoil it for the hate mob! UTG |
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 9, 2023 13:12:40 GMT
I vehemently disagree us oldies cash is king. Not everyone has a card or smartphone British rail back tracked on closing ticket offices because oldies disabled need contact with humans to ask questions and spend cash not card. You know it makes perfect sense Ps the 50/50 draw has deteriorated as a result of no cash. FACT Cash isn’t king anymore HB. Cash is a pain in the arse to account for when you have multiple vending outlets, is open to fraud and theft and it also costs you time and extra banking charges to pay in. Yes, I think I just about agree. Would I prefer a cash option? Yes of course I would but I gave up thinking that the world was designed around ‘what I want’ years ago. For the reasons given card is now the way forward, I don’t need a smart phone which I haven’t got, just a card. Whether that will change in the future who knows but when and if it does I will change just like I have over the past 5/10/15 years. Stuff like that happens. Schools, my area of expertise, have changed over that time so parents use a card option to pay for everything finance related and it works fine. Might not be liked by some but it works. And of course it’s a complete fallacy to lump ‘old people’ together and use them as a reason to stop technological change. Us oldies are used to a changing world and adapting what we do and how we do it into new technological ways. We’ve been doing it for years and in many cases have been at the forefront of these technological changes. UTG! |
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Post by swissgas on Nov 9, 2023 13:42:26 GMT
Fake news. Only emailed him 2 days ago and got a reply. Still in post. I think Tom may have missed the bus. |
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Post by irenestoyboy on Nov 9, 2023 14:24:33 GMT
Card only payment is the correct commercial decision. If I was running a business I would make it as easy as possible for customers to pay me by any means. Not everyone has digital means of payment so it is fundamentally discriminatory. Going cashless is a false economy. Trust me, that would go out the window if your own bank told you it would cost you more per transaction to bank cash than it would do a card machine, plus the now ever increasing travel time to get to a branch as most banks have shut most village satellite or town branches. For example, I bank with TSB, to bank £100 in cash would cost me £1.30 and a drive in and back Bristol from Clevedon (approx 1.5hrs), plus fuel, parking, walking to and from car park and waiting at the cashiers desk (approx half hour). It's a waste of time and money and I could be doing something far more productive with those hours. Basically, it would be poor business practice to service a very small minority. Now if the football club has to do the same, account for the cash against the vendors on products sold, then do the same process for thousands of pounds, then get charged for doing so, you can perhaps understand why paying with a card or contactless is so much more preferable than wasting nearly 8 hours in accounting and banking as well as protecting yourself from possible theft and fraud. |
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 9, 2023 14:27:20 GMT
Fake news. Only emailed him 2 days ago and got a reply. Still in post. I don't wish Tom sacked. Though some definitely here would not miss him. It's just I heard it from a couple of people. Maybe I'm being fed fake news. Who knows. I never post as fact unless I can prove it. If you got a response from Tom, did you have the chance to ask him if his role / responsibilities have changed since the ownership structure changed? It would be interesting to know, given radio silence / no programme updates from our CEO. (Just FYI I had emails from Steve Hamer a couple of weeks after the Club officially announced he had left the building. So just an email from a BRFC account doesn't really prove anything). |
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 9, 2023 14:32:41 GMT
The man's often unbearable. Bring him back. He's not changed. He made some interesting observations on the previous manager, Wael, the time needed to 'come back from the wilderness', Tom Gorringe, Jevani Brown and potential development at the Quarters (I'll open a separate thread for that). He asked after you kingswood Polak... |
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Post by bluetornados on Nov 9, 2023 14:38:07 GMT
This Tom Gorringe thread has turned in to a cash v card debate, interesting as it is, anyway..
I would think every volunteer at almost every event holding money boxes, tins or whatever would become redundant..
Also no need for the collection pots in many shops, pubs or wherever would disappear from sight..
I always give spare change on my travels as 'every little helps'..
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Post by harrybuckle on Nov 9, 2023 15:11:02 GMT
Royal British legion rely on cash donations for their annual poppy appeal as do charity shops and so do foodbanks I can assure you.
Every little helps.
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Post by swissgas on Nov 9, 2023 15:13:24 GMT
This Tom Gorringe thread has turned in to a cash v card debate, interesting as it is, anyway.. I would think every volunteer at almost every event holding money boxes, tins or whatever would become redundant.. Also no need for the collection pots in many shops, pubs or wherever would disappear from sight.. I always give spare change on my travels as 'every little helps'.. By Rohit Lohia and Sameer Mushtaq Published On 8 Nov 2023 At a traffic signal in the Indian capital, Ayesha Sharma, a 29-year-old transwoman dressed in a traditional tunic and pants with scarf, holds up a smartphone with a QR code on it as the signal flashes crimson and vehicles come to a stop. A commuter scans the code and her account is deposited with 10 rupees ($0.12), an easy addition to her panhandling. The rise in digital transactions and instant payment interfaces like the one used by Sharma, are helping marginalised communities like transgender people in managing their finances. A beggar on New Delhi’s streets since 2006, Sharma has routinely faced prejudice and jeers. Since she has started asking for money using her smartphone, just the wonder factor of that has helped reduce some of that commentary that in the past tried to shame her, she said. It has also encouraged people to give her money even when they do not have small change and today, about a quarter of her earnings are through the digital mode, she said. “It is so much easier now. Even though people are not always carrying cash, they can still donate to us by just scanning this code,” Sharma told Al Jazeera. “We may be beggars, but we should still be treated with respect and decency,” she said and digital transactions have so far spared them from visiting banks where they frequently encounter prejudice and discrimination. |
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Post by bluetornados on Nov 9, 2023 15:19:23 GMT
This Tom Gorringe thread has turned in to a cash v card debate, interesting as it is, anyway.. I would think every volunteer at almost every event holding money boxes, tins or whatever would become redundant.. Also no need for the collection pots in many shops, pubs or wherever would disappear from sight.. I always give spare change on my travels as 'every little helps'.. By Rohit Lohia and Sameer Mushtaq Published On 8 Nov 2023 At a traffic signal in the Indian capital, Ayesha Sharma, a 29-year-old transwoman dressed in a traditional tunic and pants with scarf, holds up a smartphone with a QR code on it as the signal flashes crimson and vehicles come to a stop. A commuter scans the code and her account is deposited with 10 rupees ($0.12), an easy addition to her panhandling. The rise in digital transactions and instant payment interfaces like the one used by Sharma, are helping marginalised communities like transgender people in managing their finances. A beggar on New Delhi’s streets since 2006, Sharma has routinely faced prejudice and jeers. Since she has started asking for money using her smartphone, just the wonder factor of that has helped reduce some of that commentary that in the past tried to shame her, she said. It has also encouraged people to give her money even when they do not have small change and today, about a quarter of her earnings are through the digital mode, she said. “It is so much easier now. Even though people are not always carrying cash, they can still donate to us by just scanning this code,” Sharma told Al Jazeera. “We may be beggars, but we should still be treated with respect and decency,” she said and digital transactions have so far spared them from visiting banks where they frequently encounter prejudice and discrimination. Looks like that could be the way forward, well dug out bit of info...no more of the Sally Army coming in to the pub at gone 10pm rattling tins for change.. |
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Post by swissgas on Nov 9, 2023 15:27:38 GMT
I've been concerned for some time about Rovers becoming cashless. Since July 2017 in fact  |
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Post by alloutofgas on Nov 9, 2023 15:47:31 GMT
My source tells me 100% Gorringe is history. So a bit of good news on a dreary day.
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Post by alloutofgas on Nov 9, 2023 15:49:36 GMT
Fake news. Only emailed him 2 days ago and got a reply. Still in post. Not fake news. Cheers |
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Post by swissgas on Nov 9, 2023 16:20:28 GMT
My source tells me 100% Gorringe is history. So a bit of good news on a dreary day. You are not the only one who has heard this but, if true, it's the way it's being handled which is most disappointing. I'd hoped the new ownership era would bring about a culture change and restore a sense of normality to the way Rovers conduct their business. No comment from the CEO about the manager leaving, a sudden cessation of his regular "insider knowledge" column in the programme, no attendance at the SC AGM ? It's obvious that something is happening and the most likely explanation is that Tom's role is being deliberately downgraded in an effort to make him want to seek pastures new. To me this is a cheap tactic which brings no credit to any business which employs it and with Rovers track record it is very likely to backfire. If he is leaving let's have an honest statement and make a clean dignified break so the club can move forward. |
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Post by Angas on Nov 9, 2023 16:40:34 GMT
If I was running a business I would make it as easy as possible for customers to pay me by any means. Not everyone has digital means of payment so it is fundamentally discriminatory. Going cashless is a false economy. Trust me, that would go out the window if your own bank told you it would cost you more per transaction to bank cash than it would do a card machine, plus the now ever increasing travel time to get to a branch as most banks have shut most village satellite or town branches. For example, I bank with TSB, to bank £100 in cash would cost me £1.30 and a drive in and back Bristol from Clevedon (approx 1.5hrs), plus fuel, parking, walking to and from car park and waiting at the cashiers desk (approx half hour). It's a waste of time and money and I could be doing something far more productive with those hours. Basically, it would be poor business practice to service a very small minority. Now if the football club has to do the same, account for the cash against the vendors on products sold, then do the same process for thousands of pounds, then get charged for doing so, you can perhaps understand why paying with a card or contactless is so much more preferable than wasting nearly 8 hours in accounting and banking as well as protecting yourself from possible theft and fraud. Or you could just go here - www.postoffice.co.uk/everydaybanking |
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