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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 7:55:29 GMT
Anyone know if all is well with Keith, reports on other forum that he's stopped tweeting, was not at open day, fallen out with new management and left the club. Anyone know if any of this is true?
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harrybuckle
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Post by harrybuckle on Jul 23, 2018 10:24:20 GMT
yes he has resigned today after 21 years. As a programme contributor for 41 years I too am currently considering if I can continue.
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Post by a more piratey game on Jul 23, 2018 10:29:52 GMT
yes he has resigned today after 21 years does anyone know why? Keith is excellent, particularly his management and player interviews - they clearly like him and open up as a result |
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Post by harrybuckle on Jul 23, 2018 10:38:57 GMT
Because they took the programme away from him as editor and never consulted him.
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Post by Peter Parker on Jul 23, 2018 10:39:57 GMT
yes he has resigned today after 21 years. As a programme contributor for 41 years I too am currently considering if I can continue. why are you considering if you can continue?
I don't what, if any issues there are with Keith, but all these insinuations and inferences are doing my nut in.
I wish people would just spit it out what it is they know, think they know and perhaps we can all move forward in unison or disagree respectfully
There is a cultural recently of some people trying to paint a picture of the ills of the club and some of the things it's doing (or not doing), yet no one ever says what it is
We aren't all ITK or spend 24 hours a day plugged into the Rovers matrix
edit (I see you have now said why Keith has gone, so I can work out your reason)
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Post by a more piratey game on Jul 23, 2018 10:55:29 GMT
Because they took the programme away from him as editor and never consulted him. blimey. That seems particularly bad form by any standards and when it has been the prize-winner for donkeys, even more so. Surely there must be some background or context to this? |
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Post by bloogas on Jul 23, 2018 11:11:33 GMT
Great documentary on BBC2 last night about Bill Shankly. He believed a football club was a three way pact between the fans,the players & the manager. The directors only signed cheques. Seems we're drifting that way.
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Post by RG2 Gas on Jul 23, 2018 11:15:12 GMT
I've been a programme subscriber for Donkey's years, and in the last programme of last season Keith penned a piece that suggested programme production will move to another publisher for 2018/19 (one that already does many other clubs programmes) and, reading between the lines, that wasn't his decision as he was sad to lose the services of the designer and existing publishers who have produced a fantastic publication for many seasons now.
I think we'll be getting a more 'generic' / 'standard' programme this year, very much like the fare produced by many others, and maybe we'll lose the quirkiness and uniqueness that has won 'The Pirate' loads of awards over recent seasons. I have the feeling that this years effort may LOOK more slick, but the content / reading material itself may be more bland. Let's wait and see on that I guess.
It's sad to hear Keith has gone if true, a true clubman and stalwart.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 11:15:39 GMT
yes he has resigned today after 21 years. As a programme contributor for 41 years I too am currently considering if I can continue. I'm think much the same Harry, been a fan for nearly 60 years but if it's true they took the programme off him then that is really the pits. Good man who deserved to be treated with respect. Not sure I like the style of Wael's hired hands. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 12:31:33 GMT
Screwing over a long term employee who was doing a creditable job? Looks like we are turning into what no club in their right mind should want to be: a poor man's Bristol City.
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Post by Peter Parker on Jul 23, 2018 13:11:14 GMT
Perhaps we should wait on some official communication before the lynch mob comes out.
Not defending the club, because if it's true it's not good, and as someone who has dealt with Keith I can't say enough good things about him, but what bugs me is one side of the story is out there and it seems to whip up a frenzy based off little information (Which I get the impression certain people are happy to cultivate)
You get dozens/hundreds of people waving pitchforks, most of which wouldn't have a single clue of what has actually happened, just repeating what someone has said, or simply reacting to it
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 13:20:17 GMT
Perhaps we should wait on some official communication before the lynch mob comes out. Not defending the club, because if it's true it's not good, and as someone who has dealt with Keith I can't say enough good things about him, but what bugs me is one side of the story is out there and it seems to whip up a frenzy based off little information (Which I get the impression certain people are happy to cultivate) You get dozens/hundreds of people waving pitchforks, most of which wouldn't have a single clue of what has actually happened, just repeating what someone has said, or simply reacting to it There wael only be a statement from the club is they are pressured into saying something by social media. |
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Post by DudeLebowski on Jul 23, 2018 13:24:27 GMT
Much like Spidey, I’d rather wait for facts and a statement than a random post on this absolute cess pit.
Hopefully, all will be revealed.
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Post by Peter Parker on Jul 23, 2018 13:25:03 GMT
Perhaps we should wait on some official communication before the lynch mob comes out. Not defending the club, because if it's true it's not good, and as someone who has dealt with Keith I can't say enough good things about him, but what bugs me is one side of the story is out there and it seems to whip up a frenzy based off little information (Which I get the impression certain people are happy to cultivate) You get dozens/hundreds of people waving pitchforks, most of which wouldn't have a single clue of what has actually happened, just repeating what someone has said, or simply reacting to it There wael only be a statement from the club is they are pressured into saying something by social media. Trouble is it will always come off that way, because the 'news' is leaked through social media and causes the fuss to begin with.
Without knowing the issues/discussions, who is to say the club and x employee in any given situation aren't trying to resolve any differences before anything is announced, whilst other people are spreading the news
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Post by DudeLebowski on Jul 23, 2018 13:38:13 GMT
There wael only be a statement from the club is they are pressured into saying something by social media. Trouble is it will always come off that way, because the 'news' is leaked through social media and causes the fuss to begin with.
Without knowing the issues/discussions, who is to say the club and x employee in any given situation aren't trying to resolve any differences before anything is announced, whilst other people are spreading the news
Indeed. All contributors to the programme were notified and instead of getting word from Keith himself on his departure, a certain someone just couldn’t help themselves. Now social media land goes into a frenzy. So yeh, well done that guy. |
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Post by vaughan on Jul 23, 2018 15:04:21 GMT
Next it will be that he was receiving back-handers from the print and design company and therefore was encouraged to resign. Scandal Monday.
After the recent Wael "leak" allegations, let's make up another story.
Personally, sad to see a stalwart like Keith go, although I have never met him.
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Post by LPGas on Jul 23, 2018 15:17:51 GMT
It seems to me that a lot of what made Bristol Rovers "different" is quickly disappearing. You could say that it was "more professional" you could say that is a shame that we are losing people and their ideas in the drive to be "professional". With the exception of Sunderland I suspect every club at this level and below has a "Keith Brookman". Someone who works hard for the club and someone who gets little thanks. So if, we are going to be like Sunderland and most of the clubs above us, they had better hurry up and build the training ground and the new stadium, because that's how we will become a "big" club, not by wearing a white kit or having some youngster turn out an "identikit" programme.
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Post by LPGas on Jul 23, 2018 15:37:00 GMT
As I understand it he has resigned as the editorial for the programme was taken away from him without him being told
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Post by droitwichgas on Jul 23, 2018 16:48:05 GMT
As I understand it he has resigned as the editorial for the programme was taken away from him without him being told Which isn't what the apparent club employee is suggesting on Gaschat, if KB has lost a fundamental part of his role I'd have thought was a case of constructive dismissal? |
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Post by Rex on Jul 23, 2018 17:06:55 GMT
From what I know on the commercial side, Tom Gorringe is quite keen on the 'new broom' approach, which is always bound to upset a few. I have seen a fair few comments on social media about Keith's resignation, mostly ones of outrage, funnily enough a lot of them from people who have previously posted about how 'tinpot' we are as a club and how we need to be brought up to date, well you can't have yer cake etc.
I don't know Keith, but from all those I know who do know him, it seems he is a really decent bloke who loves the club. It seems he didn't want to change so a resignation is almost inevitable, it's sad, but if the club wanted to change the way things are done, then that really is their prerogative.
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