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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 18:40:11 GMT
But the chap filling in at right back would have had a simple tackle/clearance to make. Instead it was left to Matt Harrold to come across to try to block a left wing cross. He failed, and Mansfield scored, and we got relegated out of the League. And that was Clarke's fault, in my opinion. He's doing an alright job of making things right though. I would have sacked him 11 months ago, but I wouldn't be considering it now. And I think I would have been wrong 11 months ago. You could pick any reason and pinpoint it. JW said we would have been fine with a fit Ryan Brunt. Possibly, but then he never brought anyone in. If O Toole hadnt been a dick and got suspended for being a dick he might have sscored a couple more goals etc etc We didn't need to have a fit Ryan Brunt or O Toole not to be a dick. We didn't even need a real right back. We just needed someone to stand in the right back position, and we'd have stayed up.
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Post by irishrover on Apr 17, 2015 18:43:18 GMT
We still would have only had 3 defenders. But the chap filling in at right back would have had a simple tackle/clearance to make. Instead it was left to Matt Harrold to come across to try to block a left wing cross. He failed, and Mansfield scored, and we got relegated out of the League. And that was Clarke's fault, in my opinion. He's doing an alright job of making things right though. I would have sacked him 11 months ago, but I wouldn't be considering it now. And I think I would have been wrong 11 months ago. This is pretty much my position as well.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 18:48:37 GMT
91 out of 92 FL managers would have had midfielders fill in, not ignore the problem. We still would have only had 3 defenders. Anyway i just find Bambers constant Clarke bashing and trolling boring. It must be a barrell of laughs watching us get to second and have a shot of going straight back stood or sat with him I find constantly congratulating the bloke for inheriting a good defence for L2 and denying the role he played in getting us relegated pretty tedious. If by 'trolling' you mean having an opinion on something, Rovers related, that's discussed on a Rovers forum, then I guess I'm guilty.
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Post by Peter Parker on Apr 17, 2015 19:08:06 GMT
We still would have only had 3 defenders. Anyway i just find Bambers constant Clarke bashing and trolling boring. It must be a barrell of laughs watching us get to second and have a shot of going straight back stood or sat with him I find constantly congratulating the bloke for inheriting a good defence for L2 and denying the role he played in getting us relegated pretty tedious. If by 'trolling' you mean having an opinion on something, Rovers related, that's discussed on a Rovers forum, then I guess I'm guilty. I think he has made mistakes but is a bright young manager learning You want to keep making remarks about him being a novice and banging on about his more experienced assistant. Of course we would have walked the league with Martin Allen and not lost to any part timers at all etc etc.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 17, 2015 20:14:17 GMT
We still would have only had 3 defenders. Anyway i just find Bambers constant Clarke bashing and trolling boring. It must be a barrell of laughs watching us get to second and have a shot of going straight back stood or sat with him I find constantly congratulating the bloke for inheriting a good defence for L2 and denying the role he played in getting us relegated pretty tedious. If by 'trolling' you mean having an opinion on something, Rovers related, that's discussed on a Rovers forum, then I guess I'm guilty. Surely we need to judge him on this season, and what he will do if he stays next season, not want he did in 8 games last season? Using your logic we should sack him regardless of whether we go up or not on the basis he failed last season? I suppose looking at this question another way what other manager, apart from the unavailable at the time Mad Dog & John Still etc, would have done a better job this season? The only one regularly mentioned on here GJ may well have two relegations on his CV soon for this season.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 20:33:08 GMT
Did Darrell sleep with your wife? She has better taste than that.
But he did form half of the management team that got my football my football club relegated by not being able to finish 90th out of 92 teams, form got worse when he took sole charge and he did line up in that final game with 3 defenders. Some mistakes are built to last. Obviously she hasn't. Otherwise she would not have married a condescending arsehole like yourself.
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Post by Bridgeman on Apr 17, 2015 20:40:29 GMT
We still would have only had 3 defenders. Anyway i just find Bambers constant Clarke bashing and trolling boring. It must be a barrell of laughs watching us get to second and have a shot of going straight back stood or sat with him I find constantly congratulating the bloke for inheriting a good defence for L2 and denying the role he played in getting us relegated pretty tedious. If by 'trolling' you mean having an opinion on something, Rovers related, that's discussed on a Rovers forum, then I guess I'm guilty. That's an interesting description, a 'good' defence for league 2. Michael Smith went to Peterborough, Tom Parkes had completely lost form and confidence because of his inappropriate diet, McChrystal was too slow and very indecisive, we had lost Lee Browne because of injury and Steve Mildenhall isn't the best goalie we've ever had......oh and I nearly forgot....they were all part of the team that finished in 91st place, so on that basis it would appear not that 'good' really but it could depend on what your perception of 'good' is...... There are those who consider that football teams should build from the back, could that be another reason why we provided so little for our midfield to create the openings for our at times not inexperienced forward line ? It's all a matter of opinion though isn't it ?
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Post by Bridgeman on Apr 17, 2015 20:48:24 GMT
She has better taste than that.
But he did form half of the management team that got my football my football club relegated by not being able to finish 90th out of 92 teams, form got worse when he took sole charge and he did line up in that final game with 3 defenders. Some mistakes are built to last. Obviously she hasn't. Otherwise she would not have married a condescending arsehole like yourself. Sorry, whatever your view of an individual there really is no reason I can think of to describe another forum user in that way. He is entitled to his opinion, as you are but without the condescending remarks .....lets not behave like spotty immature school kids in the play ground.....
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Post by falsenumber9 on Apr 17, 2015 20:58:18 GMT
I find constantly congratulating the bloke for inheriting a good defence for L2 and denying the role he played in getting us relegated pretty tedious. If by 'trolling' you mean having an opinion on something, Rovers related, that's discussed on a Rovers forum, then I guess I'm guilty. Surely we need to judge him on this season, and what he will do if he stays next season, not want he did in 8 games last season? Using your logic we should sack him regardless of whether we go up or not on the basis he failed last season? I suppose looking at this question another way what other manager, apart from the unavailable at the time Mad Dog & John Still etc, would have done a better job this season? The only one regularly mentioned on here GJ may well have two relegations on his CV soon for this season. I saw the title of this thread and wrongly assumed it was created after the first week of the season. 'Do we sack him?'. Sack him for what exactly? Managing a side which has finally given our supporters something to be proud of? Pulling everyone at the club together in a season which had all the ingredients for the club to descend in to turmoil? We were relegated from the Football League as a result of prolonged mismanagement at the top of the club, not his 8 game spell in charge last season. He inherited a squad which clearly had some bad apples in amongst and which lacked any real desire to push the club forward. I think he's done a superb job in recruiting a mix of street wise players at this level and experienced football league pros with the right attitude. He promised us a committed team that would fight for every ball and he's been good to his word. For me, the most impressive thing about his management is the fact he clearly has a vision and a plan for how to structure his squad. He's created himself options and his astute tactical substitutes have won us numerous games this season, a sign of a quality manager. Whilst his predecessors went through the motions and for me, lacked hunger and ambition, he seems to have it in abundance and I'm sure will go on to greater things. Make a change? You're having a laugh...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 21:19:33 GMT
I find constantly congratulating the bloke for inheriting a good defence for L2 and denying the role he played in getting us relegated pretty tedious. That's an interesting description, a 'good' defence for league 2. Only Bury (finished in 12th position) and the top 7 teams conceeded fewer goals than Rovers last season.
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Post by Bridgeman on Apr 17, 2015 21:44:10 GMT
That's an interesting description, a 'good' defence for league 2. Only Bury (finished in 12th position) and the top 7 teams conceeded fewer goals than Rovers last season. Completely agree, a remarkable achievement but how much of that was also a result of a very defensive approach by the whole team which led to us not creating and not scoring enough goals. As you've rightly commented in another part of the thread we've had too many draws this season (or more wins and a few more losses potentially could have given us more points) but you can equally apply that to last season where we had too many players defending (or less players defending conceding more goals could potentially have created more scoring opportunities with more players attacking and scoring more goals).
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Post by Blue Mist on Apr 17, 2015 21:55:01 GMT
This thread has become the equivalent of the dot that followed the national anthem on 70s TV, there is nothing left to watch go to bed.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 21:55:48 GMT
Obviously she hasn't. Otherwise she would not have married a condescending arsehole like yourself. Sorry, whatever your view of an individual there really is no reason I can think of to describe another forum user in that way. He is entitled to his opinion, as you are but without the condescending remarks .....lets not behave like spotty immature school kids in the play ground..... No need to apologise..just take your high and mighty,patronising head out of your arse and ignore!!
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Post by Bridgeman on Apr 17, 2015 22:01:59 GMT
Sorry, whatever your view of an individual there really is no reason I can think of to describe another forum user in that way. He is entitled to his opinion, as you are but without the condescending remarks .....lets not behave like spotty immature school kids in the play ground..... No need to apologise..just take your high and mighty,patronising head out of your arse and ignore!! Oh well.....here goes......
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Post by nwgas14 on Apr 17, 2015 22:16:14 GMT
this thread must be by a s**thead?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 22:57:53 GMT
this thread must be by a s***head? Why?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 23:02:34 GMT
its a tense time for us rovers fans,there is really nothing to say at the moment so theres nothing wrong with silly made up disneyland threads like this,its just a bit of fun
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Post by Curly Wurly on Apr 17, 2015 23:10:58 GMT
its a tense time for us rovers fans,there is really nothing to say at the moment so theres nothing wrong with silly made up disneyland threads like this,its just a bit of fun Fun? Fun? I'd have more fun sticking my head in a vice. Still. I suppose a bit of virtual aggro gets it all out of the system.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 23:40:57 GMT
its a tense time for us rovers fans,there is really nothing to say at the moment so theres nothing wrong with silly made up disneyland threads like this,its just a bit of fun Fun? Fun? I'd have more fun sticking my head in a vice. Still. I suppose a bit of virtual aggro gets it all out of the system. Piss off.
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Post by Curly Wurly on Apr 17, 2015 23:41:50 GMT
Fun? Fun? I'd have more fun sticking my head in a vice. Still. I suppose a bit of virtual aggro gets it all out of the system. Piss off. No you piss off!
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