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Post by Rex on Mar 8, 2020 7:22:11 GMT
Brighton & Hove Albion v Arsenal 0-1 Norwich City v Southampton 2-1 Blackburn Rovers v Bristol City 1-1 Millwall v Derby County 1-2 Sheffield Wednesday v Nottingham Forest 1-2 Bristol Rovers v Ipswich Town 1-0 Burton Albion v Wycombe Wanderers 1-1 Oxford United v Milton Keynes Dons 2-0 Bradford City v Leyton Orient 1-2 Morecambe v Plymouth Argyle 0-1
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Post by Rex on Mar 7, 2020 7:25:35 GMT
Like you already admitted you were not in the room and took no part in that process. You making this personal again and it's completely unnecessary. What happened, happened. Instead of chasing me around on almost every topic that comes around stick to the subject and what you know. It's tedious. This is where it always ends, you give it but can't take it. BTW, I'll give you another 10 ways of resolving Steve sending that money when he shouldn't have, but you won't accept any of them, because you didn't think of any of them at the time. Over and out.I bet it isn't
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Post by Rex on Mar 1, 2020 16:25:35 GMT
Crystal Palace v Watford 2-1 Sheffield United v Norwich City 2-1 Bristol City v Fulham 2-1 Charlton Athletic v Middlesbrough 1-2 Swansea City v West Bromwich Albion 1-2 Peterborough United v Portsmouth 0-1 Southend United v Bristol Rovers 0-0 Sunderland v Gillingham 2-0 Crawley Town v Oldham Athletic 2-1 Plymouth Argyle v Macclesfield Town 3-1
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Post by Rex on Mar 1, 2020 9:53:22 GMT
Really struggled with which thread to use for this. There is so much opinion about our current run and inevitably most of it is negative towards BG. I have to ask the fundamental question, how is this manager progressive? I think the answer came to me after watching yesterday's game, he might be as a coach but we are not seeing it on the pitch, our players are not responding to him. This is when you have to review the initial decision to appoint him. He changed the style and formation of a winning team which in itself is criminal. This indicates to me that he has either been told or believes these games are all freebies because we were 4th. He has been in charge for 16 games and we have won 1. I doubt even Lee Johnson would be given that time. Regardless of the circumstances of the unfortunate family illness, or the transfer players needing time to bed in, the results and crucially performances have not been good enough. I walked away from the Blackpool game feeling that we were lucky to win, that's because we were. I don't buy the fixture congestion excuse now as they have just completed 3 Saturday only weeks, no midweek match, plenty of time for a manager to get his point across. He changed a winning team. The wingers were too lightweight yesterday, Daly looked ok when he came on, at least he tried. JCH was horrendous, but had no service. The football was awful, the conditions FOR BOTH TEAMS meant we had to keep it on the floor, we kept trying to hit long high balls in the wind, ridiculous. We didn't try to get in behind them, make their defenders work, created very few chances. 4 shots at home. 13 for ST, they weren't that good. Stop blaming the ref, that performance yesterday was about how we bounced back from the Sunderland game and there was the answer. Shrewsbury must have been laughing as their fans did with the chant 'You're so s***, we're winning away'. I'm all for giving people a chance but there was NO excuse yesterday. Any injuries we have do not detract from the fect that that starting 11 was good enough to win that game. When I hear people talking about who to take off 20 minutes in it drives me mad, the 11 should take responsibility for winning the football match. Whoever was on the bench wasn't good enough to start this week so why would they do any better? It's time for BG to go, he is not going to improve. Please quote this at me when he wins promotion next season with us with expansive free flowing exciting football. I was enjoying this season even with the so-called boring GC football, winning is not boring. 4-2 v Southend was brilliant. I always said be careful what you wish for. Now we have it.
I was chatting with a pretty seasoned moaner yesterday ( who does know his football) and he was saying we have been poor, pretty much all season(which I don't agree with). The Southend game was mentioned , which admittedly was a truly abysmal first half, the crucial difference being that Coughlan was able to get the players to turn that game on it's head in the second half. I don't think Garner has that capability.
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Post by Rex on Mar 1, 2020 9:33:44 GMT
I agree with Basel and o2, I was a big GC fan and thought he was exactly the right kind of manager at exactly the right time. Sadly though, that time has passed, GC has gone and pretty much all his hard work has been wasted (in two months!) so there is little point in wondering what could have been. When you look at it logically, the only thing that has changed in that time is the manager, so he has to carry the can for it, but as I said earlier, I can't really see much point in changing now. let him see the season out, and if we see some signs of improvement , think about it again then. When Coughlan left, I was pleasantly surprised how quickly the board acted, and to be fair it looked like it could have been an exciting appointment, it was certainly brave, so I'm going to give the board the benefit of the doubt on it, I actually think that (for once) they may have thought they were doing the right thing, but as thing stands it appears their old approach of looking around the training ground and asking if 'anyone fancies a go' would have been the better option.
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Post by Rex on Mar 1, 2020 8:47:41 GMT
those who were worried when we sat 4th in the table, about just how we might cope should we get into the championship, need no longer have that concern. I didn't get that at all. Many thought we actually needed to avoid promotion! Placed fourth, I didn't believe we would sustain a promotion challenge. But to get beat most weeks in the second division, did not worry me, as long as we didn't overspend to try staying up. If you didn't overspend, would it not be beneficial to go up and come back down again? To yo-yo between the second and third divisions? I'd be right up for that, personally. If we went on to keep repeating it, then one day we might grow into the second division. It certainly might be fun finding out. My thoughts exactly. City seemed to have enjoyed the benefits of being a former yo-yo club. More importantly, as you said, it might be fun!
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Post by Rex on Mar 1, 2020 7:38:20 GMT
If Steve K can come up with any more than 'It was fing s***e' then he deserves some kind of journalistic award.
That was as bad as I have seen in a long, long time. It would be some achievement if we got relegated considering the position we were in when Garner took over, but I am beginning to believe if anyone is capable of that, he is.
Having said that, I do think we will stay up, thanks to the points deductions and expulsion, so we may as well stick with him to at least the end of the season. The question is, if we do see some kind of improvement between now and the end of the season, do we give him a pre season and a run at the start, or get rid ASAP.
One thing is certain, if things stay as they are, we would be overwhelming favourites for the drop next time round.
On a more positive note, those who were worried when we sat 4th in the table, about just how we might cope should we get into the championship, need no longer have that concern.
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Post by Rex on Feb 26, 2020 6:48:57 GMT
You may well know or think you know the wages JCH and little are on but i would not suit your agenda to tell us what they were. On gaschat you announced the exact wages of the dc failures when coughlan was in charge to discredit DC. Now you line is to discredit coughlan. I am not anti owner,i have argued for them many times on here or at least against people attacking them. Are you happy that our owner, previous chairman sanctioned, and the manager wanted and signed 3 players which had a combined wage total of 10k a week, who were either not in the starting 11 or sat on the bench (at the time) of a national league club when we were bereft of players and couldn’t sign anyone because we were up to the stops on SCMP? And these players were not good enough for those kind of wages to begin with! And loads were moaning why we cant sign players and why aren’t the owners putting more money in etc? Because of the vast DC love in, many couldn’t accept that not only had he lost the plot and the football was awful (22nd in L1 should have been a giveaway) but that he had wasted probably the best budget any manager had been given to build a side since the last time we were promoted to L1 when Trollope wasted the same sort of cash on players like sicknote Blizzard. That’s not an agenda. That’s just obvious. Recruitment before TW came in when we got to L1 fell off a cliff and we had nowhere to go when it went wrong. That had to be addressed. Do you accept that GC saved our arse (I actually liked him as a gaffer and enjoyed the results if not the football) and together with TW the signings he made both in the Jan window and the summer were excellent value? Whatever JCH is on I would say it’s been a marvellous investment seeing his goals prevented us being relegated last year? He’s gotten more goals in 1 game than Nichols managed in a whole season. So whats my agenda.... ? I think it's very easy to be wise after the event and say that a manager 'wasted' money. In all my time of supporting Rovers , I can't ever remember a playing being signed and hear fans moaning he was a waste of money before he even kicked a ball. Sometimes signings work out, sometimes they don't, that's just football.
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Post by Rex on Feb 24, 2020 13:45:49 GMT
He doesn't rate Ben Garner , although they share initials.He really needs to take up walking football or something, preferably where foxes dare to tread. Coincidence or not? Have they ever been seen in the same room together?
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Post by Rex on Feb 24, 2020 13:03:00 GMT
I propose that if Dido's Rovers prediction ever comes up, he should be awarded triple points that weekend
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Post by Rex on Feb 24, 2020 11:34:58 GMT
Newcastle United v Burnley 2-0 West Ham United v Southampton 2-0 Cardiff City v Brentford 1-1 Millwall v Bristol City 0-2 Queens Park Rangers v Birmingham City 2-1 Bolton Wanderers v Accrington Stanley 0-1 Bristol Rovers v Shrewsbury Town 1-1 Burton Albion v Peterborough United 1-2 Mansfield Town v Swindon Town 1-3 Stevenage v Walsall 1-2
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Post by Rex on Feb 23, 2020 12:05:57 GMT
I'm not sure the size of away support was a sign of fans wanting to stick with the manager and the team. I think for many it was more to do with going on the piss in Newcastle for a weekend!
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Post by Rex on Feb 23, 2020 10:57:30 GMT
Going by what has introduced so far, it looks promising, I can’t see JCH going because of his continuing recurring injuries, certainly not to a team in the championship at least, as for what some of you think is a disaster waiting to happen, obviously some think it has happened already 😀I cannot see it , painful at the moment but slow germination is there , upwards and onwards Hope your optimism is rewarded, we all want the same thing, a winning team, but you won't be surprised to hear that I don't agree with any of what you say. JCH has had a couple of minor injuries, but it's not like Swampy, where you pretty much knew that he was going to miss a long period every year. Others are talking about being able to see what Garner is trying to do, I can't, all he's done is mess with the formation, sometimes during games, and set us up badly and get us playing with no urgency or desire.
As I've said elsewhere, you simply can't expect to bring talent through and play Wengerball football in L1, that type of player gets taken by higher clubs at an early stage. Anybody who thinks that would work simply hasn't paid any attention to anything that's happened over the last 25 years. If this is the plan, we'll carry on getting beaten up by grizzled old L1 hoofers and scuffers, then the same thing will happen in L2. I tend to agree. For the life of me I can see absolutely nothing that Garner has done to improve things, we were 4th in the league FFS, how anyone can think this is better is beyond me. The one thing I do disagree with Bambi on, is that I think we have to stick with Garner for the foreseeable. The owners are obviously not remotely interested in investment, so if he did go, they would just be looking around the office and asking if anyone else fancied having a go. So Garner it is for me, at least until the end of the season. I don't think relegation is ever quite as catastrophic as fans make out, it is just part and parcel of the game but assuming we do avoid it this season (surely to God he couldn't take us down this time) I would like to see some signs that we may be avoiding a relegation battle for the following season before handing him the reins again for another go.
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Post by Rex on Feb 23, 2020 9:19:46 GMT
While that much is true, we are actually in the same division at the moment and we should be able to give anyone a game in this league. I saw us dick them 4-0 at Twerton in what I think was a promotion season for them and I think we may have snuck a draw at Roker that year as well. Yeah 1-1. Holloway’s first game back after Gerry Francis paid Brentford 10 grand out of his own pocket to bring him home. I'm pretty sure I saw us draw up there in another game as well, as we were driving out of the ground one of the friendly locals put a brick through the windscreen of the car in front.
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Post by Rex on Feb 23, 2020 7:51:17 GMT
Shock horror we lose at sunderland! They have been better than us for 150 years and probably always will be.While that much is true, we are actually in the same division at the moment and we should be able to give anyone a game in this league. I saw us dick them 4-0 at Twerton in what I think was a promotion season for them and I think we may have snuck a draw at Roker that year as well.
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Post by Rex on Feb 22, 2020 10:18:37 GMT
As others have said, you would be very hard pushed to find any area of the UK that doesn't suffer from drug related crime, from hoodies in Springbourne nicking stuff from shops, to suited coke heads in the financial sector misappropriating the savings of hard working people from all walks of life to fund their habits. I travel all over the UK with work including Bournemouth, which on the whole, is most definitely rather a nice place. For every Clifton there is a Hartcliffe, it doesn't make anywhere a 's***hole', and I'd argue that both kinds of places have their pros and cons. You are making the whole of the country sound rather unpleasant. Bristol is pretty bad, in Bristol at one of my businesses I've been maced, attacked with a machete during a robbery, had a ram raid, been stabbed and more petty theft than I can remember, but Bournemouth is worse. Sorry if my real life experience top trumps your anecdotal opinion supported by a superficial knowledge of Bournemouth, which, to help you, I'll repeat, is roughly 13 miles from Wareham.. Bambi, you know nothing of my real life experience, some may even go as far to say you know nothing about an awful lot of things
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Post by Rex on Feb 22, 2020 6:42:24 GMT
Different places at different times. But I have an interest in a small business in Bournemouth, so know it and its problems well. It's about 15 miles from Wareham I'm sure epping will be along in a moment with his first hand testimony regarding what a squalid place Bournemouth is and how he, like me, has had to move away from welcoming retail customers to a business and go wholly on line due to continual opportunistic drug related crime. Or maybe he thinks forming that opinion, based on first hand experience, is somehow 'disrespectful and rude'. Perhaps he should pop down to Springbourne and offer hugs to hoodies. As others have said, you would be very hard pushed to find any area of the UK that doesn't suffer from drug related crime, from hoodies in Springbourne nicking stuff from shops, to suited coke heads in the financial sector misappropriating the savings of hard working people from all walks of life to fund their habits. I travel all over the UK with work including Bournemouth, which on the whole, is most definitely rather a nice place. For every Clifton there is a Hartcliffe, it doesn't make anywhere a 's**thole', and I'd argue that both kinds of places have their pros and cons.
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Post by Rex on Feb 21, 2020 21:25:56 GMT
Agree with much of that but am sure that it doesn’t matter that the “dumps” you mention are dumps. They were able to do what they’ve done because a local businessman/ wealthy local boy was persuaded to take on the ownership who had emotional ties to the club and was able to propel them into the PL by themselves or with contacts they make. We have had well-meaning owners at times but no one with the wealth to be able to do what those clubs you mentioned have done. When we thought we did have those wealthy owners they have turned out to be either not so wealthy or felt unable to do what was financially necessary to propel us forward. Have said many times until Rovers are able to “persuade” a local, wealthy businessman with an emotional tie to us to take us on we’ll be our usual rag-bag Rovers. Pretty certain it’s not about whether we’re a “dump” or not. ps. And having lived in the Bournemouth area for over 40 years, Bournemouth may be many things but it’s not a “dump.” Fantastic area for all sorts. 😉 UTG! Where to start with that. Bournemouth is indeed a dump, with a huge homelessness and drug problem totally disproportionate to the size of the population. But it's Monaco compared to Leicester, that has become a truly horrible place in recent years. Those clubs I listed have achieved their success due to various circumstances, Swansea's stadium is a big help to them, Bournemouth having a Russian who disregards FFP and get's a fine that's tiny compared to what the club gained by buying their way in to the PL has obviously helped them along. Where do you live ?
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Post by Rex on Feb 21, 2020 21:08:04 GMT
Brilliant for me. I can make sure I am working in the area and work pay for the hotel If anyone is thinking of staying down for the game, the city centre Premier Inn is a better bet than the one at Gunwharf Quay. It is literally next door to the railway station and Fratton is one stop along the line.
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Post by Rex on Feb 21, 2020 21:03:48 GMT
I notice that some fans chat to each other a lot and for large time periods are not even watching the match I notice that a lot of people are observing other peoples behaviour rather than watching the match.
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