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Post by Rex on Oct 1, 2020 15:04:54 GMT
No, times weren't challenging when he arrived, Absolutely. Clearly they were not challenging at all. In fact, everything was spot on commercially: - Massive shirt sponsorship via the annual Lucky Dip-Wonderful club shop, people used to queue to get in and out! -On line shop was a wonderful experience -the Stadium manager was doing the commercial role, how visionary - what a great way to develop the brand -The bars were the most up to date and welcoming place you could have a drink anywhere. People couldn't wait to go in for a pint Looking at the above I am amazed why we ever needed to employ Mr Gorringe, clearly everything was brilliant and everything since has been a downgrade. I reckon Bamber and Swiss are the same person A lot of people are very pompous about the 'lucky dip' as you call it, I thought it was brilliant and a real chance for local businesses to be part of club. I was led to believe - although I am happy to admit I don't know the figures- that is was considered a success commercially as well, as I say I stand to be corrected. My only real experience of Gorringe's influence are the end of season dos at the waterfront, which I have to say have been incredibly professional and more importantly enjoyable. All rather very un-Rovers like really!
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Post by Rex on Oct 1, 2020 5:46:56 GMT
Swiss. The person making those commercial decisions is now on the BoD. What can possibly go wrong. I despair, honestly. But this feeds in to the point made about characters and personalities. Gorringe / Garner, peas in a pod. I have this horrible vision of a day when they have both got to the top of the slippery role and considered a success story, an interviewer gently questions them 'Of course, everyone makes mistakes along the way, you both started at a club some of our older viewers may remember, Bristol Rovers, whatever happened to them?'
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Post by Rex on Sept 30, 2020 6:39:33 GMT
Petulant city fans said lee johnson will keep his job no matter what and stamped their feet like spoilt children. Our fans are exactly the same as theirs these days without a doubt sadly. I think football fans are the same the world over, some are loud and stamp their feet, others don't. I think Lee Johnson kept his job because there was a provable improvement season on season, when it became apparent that he would not improve on their league position last season, he lost his job.
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Post by Rex on Sept 28, 2020 14:44:03 GMT
Been watching plenty of non-league lately, Hitchin's Top Field was a highlight. Looking at hopefully going to Poland in a couple of weeks for some top flight football. That's very much up in the air though, Germany also a possibility. It's difficult trying to find trips at the moment! I have been to Hitchin with Rovers, I prefer not to talk about it.
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Post by Rex on Sept 28, 2020 11:35:52 GMT
Wes seem to have missed a week ! 4 is the new 3, Rex. That's why 4-0 has become 3-0. 3-0 this season, is probably a lot less likely that 4-0 last season was!
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Post by Rex on Sept 28, 2020 11:24:18 GMT
We did try to talk to Nathan Jones first. He's been gone too long.
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Post by Rex on Sept 28, 2020 8:21:28 GMT
I think it's quite interesting how people have varying views on different people. I don't want to get into a political debate on this, but I find it intriguing that I think it's 'obvious' that Trump and Johnson are charlatans and Corbyn is a decent bloke (not Pm material btw) yet others would think quite the opposite. I also thought Coughlan came across as a decent bloke and Garner seems a bit of a creepy fer ! Opinions eh! pin I liked Coughlan As a bloke you mean? I did as well, like Bambi said he just seemed an ordinary bloke wanting to do his job , I thought his lack of media training was a bonus! However, I know a lot of Rovers fans who couldn't stand him. Horses for courses I suppose.
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Post by Rex on Sept 27, 2020 22:34:29 GMT
I was fuming after his interview yesterday, in the cold light of morning , it probably won't do much sacking him now without a Plan B- which I suspect we don't have, but we need to start having some sort of back up plan. If they don't sack Garner now, they at least need to be having the 'This is where we are, this is where we need to be, in this time frame' kind of conversation with him. No conversation you can have with Loser Boy will change anything, he isn't capable of doing the job. Let's put it this way, you stand in front of a pure, uncut diamond and have the owner of the mine talk to you for a bit about how to cut that stone. Are you now able to cut it? Wael is every bit as much to blame for this mess as Garner. Who I've never liked. No idea why people on multiple threads here are saying that he seems like a nice bloke. Listen to any of his interviews to get an insight into the bloke, everything is framed around 'I' and 'me', he comes across as horribly self centred.I think it's quite interesting how people have varying views on different people. I don't want to get into a political debate on this, but I find it intriguing that I think it's 'obvious' that Trump and Johnson are charlatans and Corbyn is a decent bloke (not Pm material btw) yet others would think quite the opposite. I also thought Coughlan came across as a decent bloke and Garner seems a bit of a creepy f**ker ! Opinions eh! pin
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Post by Rex on Sept 27, 2020 9:49:55 GMT
I was fuming after his interview yesterday, in the cold light of morning , it probably won't do much sacking him now without a Plan B- which I suspect we don't have, but we need to start having some sort of back up plan.
If they don't sack Garner now, they at least need to be having the 'This is where we are, this is where we need to be, in this time frame' kind of conversation with him.
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Post by Rex on Sept 27, 2020 9:44:34 GMT
Northampton have a very 'get in your face ' style themselves, they absolutely steam rollered Exeter in the play offs. Would Keith Curle fancy coming to his - original- boyhood favourites as manager? I think Keith Curle would fancy coming to his - original - boyhood favourites as opposition manager. We're going to get bullied next week. They don't like it up 'em Captain Mainwaring! I think you're right. I can see it getting messy.
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Post by Rex on Sept 27, 2020 9:14:32 GMT
Oh to have a manager with the ability to be able to read a players game,get the best out of him and see him fit snuggly into the team system. Quite a talent,but for WAQ, and backed by our Gashead faux football intelligentsia,apparently not good enough. The non attendees, that wanted GC gone,I wonder - in a non Cov19 situation - if they would still be turning up to the rubbish served up by BG? Or would they of stopped going? Did Bristol Rovers,in part give up on a promotion challenge to satisfy the non attending whingers, who would soon be "non attending whingers"! The uselessness of losing GC.The appalling decision making has been far too easily swept under the carpet. Wael has proved himself with eg the Training Ground,but imo,he is responsible for what was basically a naive capitulation. A decision on par - possibly worse - with those that sold Eastville. Or perhaps when in a challenging position in the 2nd tier,with Geoff Bradford breaking his leg, not replacing him. GC was lost to us, out of their hands I think. I for one liked the style, the underdog, get in their faces, we hate playing against Rovers mentality. Northampton will not be quaking in their boots and that's a worry. GC saved us from relegation and made good signings as well as getting the best out of journeyman L1/2 players, but he is still inconsistent at Mansfield and I wonder if the atmosphere and facilities at Rovers were better than we think. I still maintain we would be playing Championship if he had stayed. What an embarrassment Wycombe are going to be. He's gone now, no point crying over split milk (no typo). I don't think it was the boards fault, but appointing Garnet was. Fair play they have backed him in 2 windows but the writing is on the wall. Yesterday's performance was actually better in some ways, it was a game they could have got something out of, Donny weren't that good. Northampton have a very 'get in your face ' style themselves, they absolutely steam rollered Exeter in the play offs. Would Keith Curle fancy coming to his - original- boyhood favourites as manager?
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Post by Rex on Sept 27, 2020 7:29:23 GMT
There has been ONE ... other than that, there is not one... Not one, other than one. English is easily contradicted. Rex is right though, I think. Most criticism here is civil. I'm no English student, but surely you have missed out all the relevant words that made my comments make sense!
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Post by Rex on Sept 27, 2020 6:29:07 GMT
We seem to have missed a week !
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Post by Rex on Sept 27, 2020 6:28:43 GMT
Everton v Brighton & Hove Albion 2-0 Leeds United v Manchester City 2-1 Luton Town v Wycombe Wanderers 1-0 Nottingham Forest v Bristol City 1-1 Sheffield Wednesday v Queens Park Rangers 1-0 Bristol Rovers v Northampton Town 0-0 Shrewsbury Town v Gillingham 1-2 Wigan Athletic v Doncaster Rovers 1-1 Exeter City v Cambridge United 2-1 Stevenage v Salford City 0-1
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Post by Rex on Sept 27, 2020 6:22:57 GMT
No respect shown in this thread. Utter contempt shown in a typical social media dog**it way. Shameful but expected There has been ONE comment that was uncalled for, which btw was pointed out in the very next post, other than that, there is not one single untoward comment. Watch Ben Garners interview and his comments about referees if you are looking for a lack of respect though.
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Post by Rex on Sept 26, 2020 23:31:06 GMT
Stay classy. He may not be up to the job, but he seems like a nice bloke who’s giving his all to be a success here. It’s not working, but not sure he deserves the tasteless name-calling. it made me laugh though 😁 but doesn’t it look like, the weekly after match wailing and gnashing of teeth by fans, having to wave our little skinny fists at something, is all towards Garner. It’s just a Big Ben boil that needs to be lanced, and then we will get better. the players themselves are making some horrendous errors that pull the rug from any good things they are also doing? If anyone is saying the only issue is Garner, sack him and we are cured, I disagree. This young, inexperienced side will still have to achieve the performances to produce the points to keep us up. We have “de experienced” our squad chasing this invest in youth play Garner Ball dream of the owners. So Garner Outers do need more to assure us than saying all our ills are cured once he’s sacked. Though a rookie manager, he’s not that inexperienced of professional coaching to be honest. However, despite saying that, if we were still playing like we did against Ipswich away and Sunderland away, I would agree with you, and suggest he should go. But we are not. our performances are improving each week this season. Whilst performance progress chart can still show upward curve, and may add results to it, I’m holding my fire. A good performance and win next week, it’s still upward performance curve from start of this season when you draw line through the dots. Tbh i said the same before the season started, tough set of fixtures, I’m ignoring results just want to see performance improve and Garner Ball reveal itself. I think it is. In glimpses last week, and virtually through all today, I have seen Garner Ball. I am not ignoring results now. But I’d like to watch these under Garner Saturday 3rd October LEAGUE ONE Bristol Rovers 15:00 Northampton Tow Saturday 10th October LEAGUE ONE Lincoln City 15:00 Bristol Rover Saturday 17th October LEAGUE ONE Bristol Rovers 15:00 Burton Albio Tuesday 20th October LEAGUE ONE Shrewsbury Town 19:45 Bristol Rover That's one of the things I'm worried about if and when he goes. I don't think he could be critcized for JCH leaving, but Tony Craig, Abu Ogogo and Ollie Clarke should all still be at this club.
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Post by Rex on Sept 26, 2020 23:18:34 GMT
That's my mind made up for me. Whingeing managers complaining about refs and blaming them for defeats can f right off. your not hiring Alex Ferguson then? ☹️
I think any managers who whinges about refs is out of order, I think in Fergusons case it was more of a tactic though (albeit it one I don't approve of). While I abhor the continual slating of refs, if Ferguson was manager at Rovers and winning more games than he lost, I'd put up with it. If Garner starts winning more games than he loses, I'll put up with it from him as well.
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Post by Rex on Sept 26, 2020 17:51:15 GMT
Before Coughlan was appointed, I wanted Steve Cotterill, who for some bizarre reason Some Rovers fans thought was some die hard s**thead. He was just their manager, and they absolutely pissed this division with him in charge.
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Post by Rex on Sept 26, 2020 17:47:48 GMT
I was at that one with my son , He is 23 now, he must have been quite young then. people were streaming out and he wanted to go , but I told him we stay to the end. A few weeks later I walked out when the 4th when it at Yeovil with my son trailing behind me saying 'I thought we stayed to the end dad!' On the way back from Doncaster we saw the team at the services. Paul Tait saw my sons colours and took him on the team coach and got him some signatures. Ray Graydon was on the coach but half the team were missing, so he took our address and the following week we we sent a scarf a signed poster and a personal letter from Ray Graydon. From then on Paul Tait was my son's favourite player and he wouldn't hear a word against Graydon! That's a great story. It was 2003, Rex. I think it was Lewis Haldane's debut, or very near to it. He came on when we were 4-0 down, and scored almost immediately. I remember a whole load of Gasheads heading for the pubs at half-time. Me and Mrs. darlo stayed until the bitter end. On the way out, a couple of Donny fans invited us into their club for a few beers. I have a feeling that was their last season at Belle Vue. Ray Graydon was a great player, absolutely refused to talk about refereeing decisions after games (if only there were more like that) and also recognised the importance of young supporters. Shame he was such a terrible manager for us really! Mind you , we have had worse since
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Post by Rex on Sept 26, 2020 17:33:29 GMT
Garner makes excuses,'decisions going against us'. The refs fault we lost? Blaming the ref!We need refs to be better.Etc. The whole post match interview is complaining about todays ref and the Sunderland game ref gets a mention. Oh he says we had "good spells in the game",but we "have to do better". 'Lacking fight late in game' 'We can access,improve'. Ref bad decisions. Etc... That's my mind made up for me. Whingeing managers complaining about refs and blaming them for defeats can f**k right off.
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