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Post by emperorsuperbus on May 17, 2021 15:58:25 GMT
On the ban thing. Assuming he doesnt get a custodial sentence, but the FA ban him for say 3 months, how do the FA enforce that/monitor it? So say we put Clint Hill in charge, how do/would the FA monitor that Barton wanst pulling the strings off camera? oh dear Peter, you have opened Pandora’s Box It needs that rookie and experienced combo, whichever way round. Putting Clint Hill in charge would be like putting Warnock in charge. That’s where he has learnt his game. And that’s the end of Barton, why have rookie Barton back on the bench next to rookie Hill, when you could go and get the man himself. Rather have Joey Barton here than Warnock. No question about it, if you asked me to chose. Run a poll on it, Barton or Warnock and you will find everyone agrees with me.
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 17, 2021 16:10:34 GMT
On the ban thing. Assuming he doesnt get a custodial sentence, but the FA ban him for say 3 months, how do the FA enforce that/monitor it? So say we put Clint Hill in charge, how do/would the FA monitor that Barton wanst pulling the strings off camera? oh dear Peter, you have opened Pandora’s Box It needs that rookie and experienced combo, whichever way round. Putting Clint Hill in charge would be like putting Warnock in charge. That’s where he has learnt his game. And that’s the end of Barton, why have rookie Barton back on the bench next to rookie Hill, when you could go and get the man himself. Rather have Joey Barton here than Warnock. No question about it, if you asked me to chose. Run a poll on it, Barton or Warnock and you will find everyone agrees with me. Not me, I’d love Warnock
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Post by eppinggas on May 17, 2021 17:09:29 GMT
On the ban thing. Assuming he doesnt get a custodial sentence, but the FA ban him for say 3 months, how do the FA enforce that/monitor it? So say we put Clint Hill in charge, how do/would the FA monitor that Barton wanst pulling the strings off camera? oh dear Peter, you have opened Pandora’s Box It needs that rookie and experienced combo, whichever way round. Putting Clint Hill in charge would be like putting Warnock in charge. That’s where he has learnt his game. And that’s the end of Barton, why have rookie Barton back on the bench next to rookie Hill, when you could go and get the man himself. Rather have Joey Barton here than Warnock. No question about it, if you asked me to chose. Run a poll on it, Barton or Warnock and you will find everyone agrees with me. Mr. Warnock with three decades of football management, a proven track record, numerous promotions, and no criminal convictions vs. Mr Barton. Mr. Warnock all day long.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2021 17:16:40 GMT
Bus Boy is playing to the crowd.
Warnock any time. I couldn't give a hoot about what he said about the crap ground we were in 30 tears ago. He's a proven winner.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2021 17:24:30 GMT
Bus Boy is playing to the crowd. Warnock any time. I couldn't give a hoot about what he said about the crap ground we were in 30 tears ago. He's a proven winner. Agreed. We can only dream of attracting a manager with the calibre and proven success of Colin Warnock.
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Post by baselswh on May 17, 2021 17:38:22 GMT
On the ban thing. Assuming he doesnt get a custodial sentence, but the FA ban him for say 3 months, how do the FA enforce that/monitor it? So say we put Clint Hill in charge, how do/would the FA monitor that Barton wanst pulling the strings off camera? Also Sprout,when a possible suspension begins is important. The more pre season having JB 'missing' might not be so much of a problem.JB and his team know already the fitness regime planned. Hopefully said possible suspension would'nt eat into the actual season too much. Training and matches can be filmed and viewed by JB.He'll be in touch with his coaching team. It'll be temporary.That's all.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2021 17:47:52 GMT
On the ban thing. Assuming he doesnt get a custodial sentence, but the FA ban him for say 3 months, how do the FA enforce that/monitor it? So say we put Clint Hill in charge, how do/would the FA monitor that Barton wanst pulling the strings off camera? Also Sprout,when a possible suspension begins is important. The more pre season having JB 'missing' might not be so much of a problem.JB and his team know already the fitness regime planned. Hopefully said possible suspension would'nt eat into the actual season too much. Training and matches can be filmed and viewed by JB.He'll be in touch with his coaching team. It'll be temporary.That's all. Certainly will be a unique situation Bas. Hope it works for the supporters sake.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on May 18, 2021 13:19:03 GMT
Bus Boy is playing to the crowd. Warnock any time. I couldn't give a hoot about what he said about the crap ground we were in 30 tears ago. He's a proven winner. No. Seriously no. forced choice Barton or Warnock, has to be Barton. everything about what Warnock stands for, his attitude, his opinions, foul and reactionary. He doesn’t put sides out to play football, he puts them out to play thuggery. Evidence? At Palace there was a proper footballer at Centre Back and Warnock replaced him with Clint Hill. Barton may be erratic, but he is human and fun in comparison to the smouldering brimstone that is Warnock.
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Post by baselswh on May 18, 2021 13:21:51 GMT
Also Sprout,when a possible suspension begins is important. The more pre season having JB 'missing' might not be so much of a problem.JB and his team know already the fitness regime planned. Hopefully said possible suspension would'nt eat into the actual season too much. Training and matches can be filmed and viewed by JB.He'll be in touch with his coaching team. It'll be temporary.That's all. Certainly will be a unique situation Bas. Hope it works for the supporters sake. Well I don't think it's 'the best' PHE,but as a temporary measure,I see it as do-able.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2021 14:39:25 GMT
Bus Boy is playing to the crowd. Warnock any time. I couldn't give a hoot about what he said about the crap ground we were in 30 tears ago. He's a proven winner. No. Seriously no. forced choice Barton or Warnock, has to be Barton. everything about what Warnock stands for, his attitude, his opinions, foul and reactionary. He doesn’t put sides out to play football, he puts them out to play thuggery. Evidence? At Palace there was a proper footballer at Centre Back and Warnock replaced him with Clint Hill. Barton may be erratic, but he is human and fun in comparison to the smouldering brimstone that is Warnock. Because, of course, on the pitch Barton was a model professional.
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Post by a more piratey game on May 18, 2021 15:21:09 GMT
No. Seriously no. forced choice Barton or Warnock, has to be Barton. everything about what Warnock stands for, his attitude, his opinions, foul and reactionary. He doesn’t put sides out to play football, he puts them out to play thuggery. Evidence? At Palace there was a proper footballer at Centre Back and Warnock replaced him with Clint Hill. Barton may be erratic, but he is human and fun in comparison to the smouldering brimstone that is Warnock. Because, of course, on the pitch Barton was a model professional. a leader amongst men. When it comes to blaming other people or other ways of doing things
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Post by emperorsuperbus on May 18, 2021 20:58:24 GMT
Certainly will be a unique situation Bas. Hope it works for the supporters sake. Well I don't think it's 'the best' PHE,but as a temporary measure,I see it as do-able. okay. So guilty, four week sin bin from all football activity, manageable, no letting Barton go, despite media and punditry outcry. In your opinion. What sort of ban length isn’t manageable and creates regime change?
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Post by emperorsuperbus on May 18, 2021 21:15:40 GMT
No. Seriously no. forced choice Barton or Warnock, has to be Barton. everything about what Warnock stands for, his attitude, his opinions, foul and reactionary. He doesn’t put sides out to play football, he puts them out to play thuggery. Evidence? At Palace there was a proper footballer at Centre Back and Warnock replaced him with Clint Hill. Barton may be erratic, but he is human and fun in comparison to the smouldering brimstone that is Warnock. Because, of course, on the pitch Barton was a model professional. That’s not a response. You can spin a YouTube reel making a lot of players look petty and red Misty on a pitch down the years, truth is the Barton reputation was made off pitch, cigars stubbed out in eyes for example, prison for GBH, lengthly ban for betting. I am explaining something very different, the psyche of two men. Two very different psyche. Barton’s is instinctive, perhaps immature. Warnock is very different. Warnock represents that dark, venal, and incurably violent side of the human character in ways Barton just cannot match. Warnock, reactionary. Barton, progressive. Barton seeks to place the wild intelligence within his body at one with landscape and sky. Warnock is that the scientist, that Theologian who holds the living world at a distance. The reason why the human race s**ts it’s own nest for all to see on this thread, if you would follow Warnock, not Barton.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2021 21:25:38 GMT
Because, of course, on the pitch Barton was a model professional. That’s not a response. You can spin a YouTube reel making a lot of players look petty and red Misty on a pitch down the years, truth is the Barton reputation was made off pitch, cigars stubbed out in eyes for example, prison for GBH, lengthly ban for betting. I am explaining something very different, the psyche of two men. Two very different psyche. Barton’s is instinctive, perhaps immature. Warnock is very different. Warnock represents that dark, venal, and incurably violent side of the human character in ways Barton just cannot match. Warnock, reactionary. Barton, progressive. Barton seeks to place the wild intelligence within his body at one with landscape and sky. Warnock is that the scientist, that Theologian who holds the living world at a distance. The reason why the human race s***s it’s own nest for all to see on this thread, if you would follow Warnock, not Barton. If he's intelligent why does he repeat and contradict himself continually in interviews? Not defending Colin, never liked the bloke and agree with you about him, but to attempt to select the least unpleasant character and declare the victor as somehow virtuous is a bit beyond me I'm afraid.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on May 19, 2021 1:19:36 GMT
That’s not a response. You can spin a YouTube reel making a lot of players look petty and red Misty on a pitch down the years, truth is the Barton reputation was made off pitch, cigars stubbed out in eyes for example, prison for GBH, lengthly ban for betting. I am explaining something very different, the psyche of two men. Two very different psyche. Barton’s is instinctive, perhaps immature. Warnock is very different. Warnock represents that dark, venal, and incurably violent side of the human character in ways Barton just cannot match. Warnock, reactionary. Barton, progressive. Barton seeks to place the wild intelligence within his body at one with landscape and sky. Warnock is that the scientist, that Theologian who holds the living world at a distance. The reason why the human race s***s it’s own nest for all to see on this thread, if you would follow Warnock, not Barton. If he's intelligent why does he repeat and contradict himself continually in interviews? Not defending Colin, never liked the bloke and agree with you about him, but to attempt to select the least unpleasant character and declare the victor as somehow virtuous is a bit beyond me I'm afraid. Again, you just use the discussion to highlight Barton. You are just not daring to place each man’s psyche in the scales. incidit in scyllam cupiens vitare charybdim You think you can go through with only the good the bad decision and never choosing the lesser between two evils? Let me convince you. It will be easy. We know enough about these two men’s psyches to know just what they will say and act. Third wave, those dying refused vaccine when offered. “It’s their own silly fault then, isn’t it.” We know Warnock will say. Barton won’t say that.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2021 8:43:02 GMT
If he's intelligent why does he repeat and contradict himself continually in interviews? Not defending Colin, never liked the bloke and agree with you about him, but to attempt to select the least unpleasant character and declare the victor as somehow virtuous is a bit beyond me I'm afraid. Again, you just use the discussion to highlight Barton. You are just not daring to place each man’s psyche in the scales. incidit in scyllam cupiens vitare charybdim You think you can go through with only the good the bad decision and never choosing the lesser between two evils? Let me convince you. It will be easy. We know enough about these two men’s psyches to know just what they will say and act. Third wave, those dying refused vaccine when offered. “It’s their own silly fault then, isn’t it.” We know Warnock will say. Barton won’t say that. At what point in time were Bristol Rovers told that they had zero options other than to employ somewhat abrasive Colin or convicted thug Barton?
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Post by emperorsuperbus on May 19, 2021 11:12:24 GMT
Again, you just use the discussion to highlight Barton. You are just not daring to place each man’s psyche in the scales. incidit in scyllam cupiens vitare charybdim You think you can go through with only the good the bad decision and never choosing the lesser between two evils? Let me convince you. It will be easy. We know enough about these two men’s psyches to know just what they will say and act. Third wave, those dying refused vaccine when offered. “It’s their own silly fault then, isn’t it.” We know Warnock will say. Barton won’t say that. At what point in time were Bristol Rovers told that they had zero options other than to employ somewhat abrasive Colin or convicted thug Barton? Exactly. It’s a hypothetical you are strangling yourself in all this time, but as indicative of occasions you have to chose the lesser of two evils, and for irrational and ill thought out reasons a few people thought Barton the worse option than Warnock. Parksey suggested we put the Organ Grinders pet thug in charge so the response was why not Warnock himself rather than Mr Hill?
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 19, 2021 11:13:54 GMT
Again, you just use the discussion to highlight Barton. You are just not daring to place each man’s psyche in the scales. incidit in scyllam cupiens vitare charybdim You think you can go through with only the good the bad decision and never choosing the lesser between two evils? Let me convince you. It will be easy. We know enough about these two men’s psyches to know just what they will say and act. Third wave, those dying refused vaccine when offered. “It’s their own silly fault then, isn’t it.” We know Warnock will say. Barton won’t say that. At what point in time were Bristol Rovers told that they had zero options other than to employ somewhat abrasive Colin or convicted thug Barton? I had to ask who Colin waxxxr is but why call him Colin mate ? I know it’s a silly question but I’d love to know. Thanks in advance
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Post by alftupper on May 19, 2021 11:24:34 GMT
At what point in time were Bristol Rovers told that they had zero options other than to employ somewhat abrasive Colin or convicted thug Barton? I had to ask who Colin waxxxr is but why call him Colin mate ? I know it’s a silly question but I’d love to know. Thanks in advance Mr w****r is too formal?
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2021 11:29:21 GMT
At what point in time were Bristol Rovers told that they had zero options other than to employ somewhat abrasive Colin or convicted thug Barton? Exactly. It’s a hypothetical you are strangling yourself in all this time, but as indicative of occasions you have to chose the lesser of two evils, and for irrational and ill thought out reasons a few people thought Barton the worse option than Warnock. Parksey suggested we put the Organ Grinders pet thug in charge so the response was why not Warnock himself rather Hill? It's you who first said that, in this hypothetical situation, you would go for Colin. I don't want either of them. So whilst a half decent attempt at deflection, it doesn't get you off of the hook.
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