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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 16:44:17 GMT
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Post by harrybuckle on Apr 1, 2021 16:59:01 GMT
Will it get approval from forumers or will the letter be returned to sender address unknown.
Maybe a open zoom q and a meeting at the end of the season.
If you could ask Wael a question what would it be ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 17:34:47 GMT
"his knowledge of the game and his passion for our project."
Actually, Joey has said that it is s**t and he has other ideas but I wish you both the best of luck turning things around.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 17:35:50 GMT
im always amazed at this “lucky” business. I could buy into it if owners subsidising clubs was some rare and unique thing- but it’s not. There are 91 other chairmen currently subsidising their clubs through the pandemic. A whopping great 0 have gone into administration during the pandemic. How many of those clubs are on their 3rd manager of the season? How many have had to resort to giving Joey B***** a job? Lucky, pfffft...
However on the plus side it is nice to see how Wael still feels Rovers is a family club when plenty argued that we aren’t after hiring B***** and he says that we have learnt from our mistakes......but strangely won’t say how.
I’d like to see him be interviewed by GT really to try and find the substance in these words because to me it’s all very well saying you are a family club and have learnt from your mistakes but hiring B***** and blaming everything on the manager all the time shows that nothing has been learnt at all.
Wael will be back again in three months when B***** is found guilty and banned by the FA telling us once again he is sorry for his mistakes and lessons will be learnt and so it will go on.
This club is on the verge of relegation after everything D.C. built under Higgs’s watch and the club deserves a lot better than being shown up by the likes of Crewe and Accrington Stanley. The whole idea of being *grateful* for this sorry decline just blows my mind. I know this post is going to be as popular as a fart in a spacesuit but I don’t care, I’m angry at what this club has become after all DC did for it.
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Post by gasandproud on Apr 1, 2021 18:06:47 GMT
im always amazed at this “lucky” business. I could buy into it if owners subsidising clubs was some rare and unique thing- but it’s not. There are 91 other chairmen currently subsidising their clubs through the pandemic. A whopping great 0 have gone into administration during the pandemic. How many of those clubs are on their 3rd manager of the season? How many have had to resort to giving Joey B***** a job? Lucky, pfffft... However on the plus side it is nice to see how Wael still feels Rovers is a family club when plenty argued that we aren’t after hiring B***** and he says that we have learnt from our mistakes......but strangely won’t say how. I’d like to see him be interviewed by GT really to try and find the substance in these words because to me it’s all very well saying you are a family club and have learnt from your mistakes but hiring B***** and blaming everything on the manager all the time shows that nothing has been learnt at all. Wael will be back again in three months when B***** is found guilty and banned by the FA telling us once again he is sorry for his mistakes and lessons will be learnt and so it will go on. This club is on the verge of relegation after everything D.C. built under Higgs’s watch and the club deserves a lot better than being shown up by the likes of Crewe and Accrington Stanley. The whole idea of being *grateful* for this sorry decline just blows my mind. I know this post is going to be as popular as a fart in a spacesuit but I don’t care, I’m angry at what this club has become after all DC did for it. I pretty much agree with that. As our manager and owner seem to like a metaphor or two I will throw some of my own in.... Walk the walk and not talk the talk....Actions speak louder than words... Talks a good game....If you keep doing what you have previously you will get the same results! Whilst the letter seems honest and well meant it says nothing of any consequence, in fact it contradicts exactly what the manager has said in many ways. I’m sure many will disagree with my comments but sadly as a has head that’s I how feel!
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 1, 2021 18:10:46 GMT
im always amazed at this “lucky” business. I could buy into it if owners subsidising clubs was some rare and unique thing- but it’s not. There are 91 other chairmen currently subsidising their clubs through the pandemic. A whopping great 0 have gone into administration during the pandemic. How many of those clubs are on their 3rd manager of the season? How many have had to resort to giving Joey B***** a job? Lucky, pfffft... However on the plus side it is nice to see how Wael still feels Rovers is a family club when plenty argued that we aren’t after hiring B***** and he says that we have learnt from our mistakes......but strangely won’t say how. I’d like to see him be interviewed by GT really to try and find the substance in these words because to me it’s all very well saying you are a family club and have learnt from your mistakes but hiring B***** and blaming everything on the manager all the time shows that nothing has been learnt at all. Wael will be back again in three months when B***** is found guilty and banned by the FA telling us once again he is sorry for his mistakes and lessons will be learnt and so it will go on. This club is on the verge of relegation after everything D.C. built under Higgs’s watch and the club deserves a lot better than being shown up by the likes of Crewe and Accrington Stanley. The whole idea of being *grateful* for this sorry decline just blows my mind. I know this post is going to be as popular as a fart in a spacesuit but I don’t care, I’m angry at what this club has become after all DC did for it. Well said
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Post by basel on Apr 1, 2021 18:12:59 GMT
"his knowledge of the game and his passion for our project." Actually, Joey has said that it is s*** and he has other ideas but I wish you both the best of luck turning things around. 'The project' is to succeed of course,so whatever the style was with BG and then PT ,it is now changed into the JB way. Same project. Different chapters. I take your point though PHE.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 18:20:27 GMT
"his knowledge of the game and his passion for our project." Actually, Joey has said that it is s*** and he has other ideas but I wish you both the best of luck turning things around. 'The project' is to succeed of course,so whatever the style was with BG and then PT ,it is now morphed into the JB way. Same project. Different chapters. I take your point though PHE. What’s the common denominator between BG, PT and B***** though? I can’t see it if there is one. It’s like ringing up Dali and asking him if he fancies finishing off a painting that was started by Picasso before he went off sick and then Jackson Pollock came in to pick up where he left off. Hiring B***** after all the talk of Rovers DNA shows that this board has no clue what it’s doing and is now very much in simple short term damage limitation and Wael needs to be grilled about this so he can tell us exactly what he has learnt....but he doesn’t seem to like the sort of scrutiny Geoff brings to the table probably because he ends up looking like there is no substance- exactly the issue with this letter.
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Post by basel on Apr 1, 2021 18:22:54 GMT
No getting away from it, this season has been rubbish.
Hopefully somehow we can stay up.
Starting next season as a 3rd tier club would be exciting.
As a 4th tier club,well even promotion would only be getting back to where we are now.
Challenging for promotion to the 2nd tier is where it's at.
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Post by basel on Apr 1, 2021 18:26:38 GMT
'The project' is to succeed of course,so whatever the style was with BG and then PT ,it is now morphed into the JB way. Same project. Different chapters. I take your point though PHE. What’s the common denominator between BG, PT and B***** though? I can’t see it if there is one. It’s like ringing up Dali and asking him if he fancies finishing off a painting that was started by Picasso before he went off sick and then Jackson Pollock came in to pick up where he left off. Hiring B***** after all the talk of Rovers DNA shows that this board has no clue what it’s doing and is now very much in simple short term damage limitation and Wael needs to be grilled about this so he can tell us exactly what he has learnt....but he doesn’t seem to like the sort of scrutiny Geoff brings to the table probably because he ends up looking like there is no substance- exactly the issue with this letter. The style has changed to a JB one now WM. The project is wanting success. I think this is what WAQ was trying to put across. Not much in common between the 3 managers,as you say. Yes,it looks as if WAQ has changed his mind on his naive plan with BG.Good. Agreed,a WAQ GT interview would see him squirm,unless he admitted to his mistakes and just what was being done to try something else.I think honesty would be respected.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 1, 2021 20:55:01 GMT
im always amazed at this “lucky” business. I could buy into it if owners subsidising clubs was some rare and unique thing- but it’s not. There are 91 other chairmen currently subsidising their clubs through the pandemic. A whopping great 0 have gone into administration during the pandemic. How many of those clubs are on their 3rd manager of the season? How many have had to resort to giving Joey B***** a job? Lucky, pfffft... However on the plus side it is nice to see how Wael still feels Rovers is a family club when plenty argued that we aren’t after hiring B***** and he says that we have learnt from our mistakes......but strangely won’t say how. I’d like to see him be interviewed by GT really to try and find the substance in these words because to me it’s all very well saying you are a family club and have learnt from your mistakes but hiring B***** and blaming everything on the manager all the time shows that nothing has been learnt at all. Wael will be back again in three months when B***** is found guilty and banned by the FA telling us once again he is sorry for his mistakes and lessons will be learnt and so it will go on. This club is on the verge of relegation after everything D.C. built under Higgs’s watch and the club deserves a lot better than being shown up by the likes of Crewe and Accrington Stanley. The whole idea of being *grateful* for this sorry decline just blows my mind. I know this post is going to be as popular as a fart in a spacesuit but I don’t care, I’m angry at what this club has become after all DC did for it. We were on the verge of relegation when DC departed plus it was Wael's arrival which led to our promotion in the first place? What's annoying is why we threw away what GC had built following DC's departure, all we need to do was appoint a decent replacement, assuming we couldn't convince him to stay, retain Craig or get a like for like replacement and spend some decent money on a striker to replace JCH and Nichols. It's looking likely the gamble on BG has cost Wael £3m only to end in relegation.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 21:08:56 GMT
im always amazed at this “lucky” business. I could buy into it if owners subsidising clubs was some rare and unique thing- but it’s not. There are 91 other chairmen currently subsidising their clubs through the pandemic. A whopping great 0 have gone into administration during the pandemic. How many of those clubs are on their 3rd manager of the season? How many have had to resort to giving Joey B***** a job? Lucky, pfffft... However on the plus side it is nice to see how Wael still feels Rovers is a family club when plenty argued that we aren’t after hiring B***** and he says that we have learnt from our mistakes......but strangely won’t say how. I’d like to see him be interviewed by GT really to try and find the substance in these words because to me it’s all very well saying you are a family club and have learnt from your mistakes but hiring B***** and blaming everything on the manager all the time shows that nothing has been learnt at all. Wael will be back again in three months when B***** is found guilty and banned by the FA telling us once again he is sorry for his mistakes and lessons will be learnt and so it will go on. This club is on the verge of relegation after everything D.C. built under Higgs’s watch and the club deserves a lot better than being shown up by the likes of Crewe and Accrington Stanley. The whole idea of being *grateful* for this sorry decline just blows my mind. I know this post is going to be as popular as a fart in a spacesuit but I don’t care, I’m angry at what this club has become after all DC did for it. We were on the verge of relegation when DC departed plus it was Wael's arrival which led to our promotion in the first place? What's annoying is why we threw away what GC had built following DC's departure, all we need to do was appoint a decent replacement, assuming we couldn't convince him to stay, retain Craig or get a like for like replacement and spend some decent money on a striker to replace JCH and Nichols. It's looking likely the gamble on BG has cost Wael £3m only to end in relegation. There’s a lot of conjecture in Wael’s arrival being the difference between promotion to league one and failing. I know he promised them a holiday but I’d like to think the momentum we had generated under Clarke would have seen us through regardless. The team of that era certainly put a shift in a damn sight more than the bunch of flops we’ve got at the moment. Wael needs to front up about hiring Garner. The whole mess stems from that one decision and I feel that writing a letter from the safety of Jordan saying “okay I ballsed it up, I’ve learnt my lesson, sorry!” is getting off very lightly. Anyone can say sorry in a letter. It takes nothing. If I had the power I’d get him in front of Radio Bristol to take questions from Geoff and fans to establish who and what we are as a club. Simply changing the manager when things go wrong is a bit of cop out and gets you off of the real hard work of sorting that board room out and firing your mates. I worry that by hiring three managers in a season Wael has swallowed Widdrington’s nonsense that the footballing success of a club lies squarely at the manager’s door. The position the club finds itself undoubtedly has culpability everywhere to varying degrees and it’s too simplistic and convenient to keep firing managers whilst promoting the guy in charge of the scouting.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 21:32:15 GMT
The big difference is we no longer have a DNA. We have a blueprint.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 1, 2021 21:36:54 GMT
Not sure what we'll achieve by hearing Weal squirming though another interview with 20man, all we can hope it that he's learnt his lesson and the "vision's" been booted into touch. It's madness that the vision was supposed to make the club self sufficient but cost it £m's, I wonder how much spare cash Wael has to throw away £3m+ every year on basically a hobby, as I assume he gets no income himself from the club?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 21:43:02 GMT
Not sure what we'll achieve by hearing Weal squirming though another interview with 20man, all we can hope it that he's learnt his lesson and the "vision's" been booted into touch. It's madness that the vision was supposed to make the club self sufficient but cost it £m's, I wonder how much spare cash Wael has to throw away £3m+ every year on basically a hobby, as I assume he gets no income himself from the club? Not that much I don’t think, he’ll run out of money sooner rather than later. The question will then become how much of his previous spend will Wael want to recoup as part of a sale. I can’t see him being a good Gashead and handing over a debt free club and pocketing a nominal fee for the cost of the stadium. He will surely want to exit in a way that gives him the opportunity to recoup a chunk of his expenditure.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 22:33:41 GMT
Wael's being made to sound delusional now.
B***** is going to galvanise the fan base!
It's singularly the most divisive appointment in the 50+ years I've followed the club.
He's then quoted as claiming that the club's 'family and community ethos' were a factor in the appointment.
It's beyond parody. I have no idea who writes this nonsense for Wael, but they are an absolute idiot.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2021 9:14:01 GMT
It's singularly the most divisive appointment in the 50+ years I've followed the club. You mean a dozen people moaning on a minor internet forum
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Post by basel on Apr 2, 2021 9:17:58 GMT
Wael's being made to sound delusional now. B***** is going to galvanise the fan base! It's singularly the most divisive appointment in the 50+ years I've followed the club. He's then quoted as claiming that the club's 'family and community ethos' were a factor in the appointment. It's beyond parody. I have no idea who writes this nonsense for Wael, but they are an absolute idiot. I think the appointment of Ben Garner created more divide.
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Post by eppinggas on Apr 2, 2021 9:22:29 GMT
Wael's being made to sound delusional now. B***** is going to galvanise the fan base! It's singularly the most divisive appointment in the 50+ years I've followed the club. He's then quoted as claiming that the club's 'family and community ethos' were a factor in the appointment. It's beyond parody. I have no idea who writes this nonsense for Wael, but they are an absolute idiot. Self penned.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 2, 2021 9:48:43 GMT
I choose to be supportive of Wael's carefully chosen words letter and timing to the fans.
I think, with hindsight, it's been a classic stick or twist season......the timing of changes and the actual choices were in itself something which would divide the fanbase because of it's very nature. Because it's been a poor 15 months or 1.5 seasons.
I'll just take my previous posts (because it's unfair to bring anyone else in)...
I wanted a new manager for the start of the season and transfer window. MANY, INCLUDING WAEL DISAGREED. But I could see why Wael did what he did, and removed when he did. So, with hindsight, decisions have stemmed from a poor start.
But, if Wael hadn't made his decisions at the time he did, one could level accusations he did nothing and didn't care.... negligent (as was last week's buzz word?)....a little bit like Higgs keys on the John Ward watch?
In a way, at least Wael has tried to be pro active,no matter how misdirected that might have appeared to be. Wael has made decisions that I disagree with. At times I disagree with. I'm sure most of you will agree with this!?
I just think the motivation for those decisions were taken with the best of intentions for the progression of the club, no matter how poor they were....no matter how delusional they are....no matter how poorly advised they appear to be.
We can see there are problems on and off the pitch, I'm just putting our differences apart and support in a time of need...
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