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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2021 20:58:35 GMT
Barton's been in post for ten months today. He's repeatedly done more to be sacked than did Tisdale and latterly Garner (after Garner's disastrous start) and certainly Clarke. Sackman Al Qadi (as I called him after Garner and Tisdale's sackings) has either no wish to sack Barton, or perhaps no means to. I think he'll last twelve.
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Post by Angas on Nov 22, 2021 22:32:00 GMT
I make it nine months? I'd like to think he won't make ten.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2021 22:35:50 GMT
I counted it twice. NINE months. Terrible mathematicians, wildfowl.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2021 22:37:05 GMT
I counted it twice. NINE months. Terrible mathematicians, wildfowl. The stain on our reputation won't be counted in months
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Nov 23, 2021 6:25:56 GMT
Nine months and the club hasn't been reborn
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Post by eppinggas on Dec 2, 2021 9:18:41 GMT
In answer to the original proposition, the jury might decide this today. Or tomorrow. Or just after December 16th.
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Post by Bath Gas on Dec 2, 2021 9:28:07 GMT
In answer to the original proposition, the jury might decide this today. Or tomorrow. Or just after December 16th. A jury may decide this, however, I have my doubts as to whether Wael will.
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Post by eppinggas on Dec 2, 2021 9:51:47 GMT
In answer to the original proposition, the jury might decide this today. Or tomorrow. Or just after December 16th. A jury may decide this, however, I have my doubts as to whether Wael will. Wael has backed himself into a corner. It is entirely his own fault. We're playing (marginally) better football and some people feel that Barton is the 'right' man to continue to manage us. Therefore Barton should not be sacked. There are some people who would not be happy if Wael Al-Qadi does not follow through with his clear statement on sacking someone if they have a (recent) conviction for violence. Either way - the support base will remain fractured.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2021 9:57:39 GMT
If the manager is guilty, he has to be sacked if the owner wants to retain any credibility. As outlined above, he has clearly stated that he cannot countenance continuing to employ anyone (either directly, or via Eddie Jennings' company) that is guilty of a violent offence.
If he's found innocent, his managerial record has to be the critical factor in deciding whether he remains manager.
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Post by Angas on Dec 2, 2021 10:05:44 GMT
Further cases are scheduled for today "Not before 3.30pm" - so we may have a verdict by tea time.
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Post by absent on Dec 2, 2021 10:18:49 GMT
If the manager is guilty, he has to be sacked if the owner wants to retain any credibility. As outlined above, he has clearly stated that he cannot countenance continuing to employ anyone (either directly, or via Eddie Jennings' company) that is guilty of a violent offence. If he's found innocent, his managerial record has to be the critical factor in deciding whether he remains manager. Which should ensure he's sacked either way.
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Post by eppinggas on Dec 6, 2021 10:30:37 GMT
Page 95. Will it make 100?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2021 10:38:41 GMT
Page 95. Will it make 100? Don't think it's going to happen, but wouldn't it be lovely if the thread title was changed in the next day or two from 'is unfit' to 'was unfit'.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2021 21:47:00 GMT
It's very sad that he still 'is' not 'was'. The view I expressed in the title of this thread is not as widely shared as it was. The better the team does, the more Gasheads believe in Barton's 'innocence' as they now consider the court has instructed us to believe (it hasn't). But regardless of football performances, and regardless of failed prosecutions, Joey Bartonn is unfit to manage Bristol Rovers, whether or not his apologists whine about my saying so.
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Post by eppinggas on Dec 9, 2021 23:49:54 GMT
It's very sad that he still 'is' not 'was'. The view I expressed in the title of this thread is not as widely shared as it was. The better the team does, the more Gasheads believe in Barton's 'innocence' as they now consider the court has instructed us to believe (it hasn't). But regardless of football performances, and regardless of failed prosecutions, Joey Bartonn is unfit to manage Bristol Rovers, whether or not his apologists whine about my saying so. Wise words duck. Bump.
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Post by Peter Parker on Dec 10, 2021 15:21:54 GMT
only one side of a story obviously but
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Post by swissgas on Dec 10, 2021 17:54:17 GMT
Someone on Gaschat posted "I'd like to think Bristol Rovers have some kind of player welfare safeguarding process in place to protect them from any kind of in-workplace bullying.. but who knows?"
Last week I heard that Nikki Parker who is (still) described on the club website as Academy Operations Manager and Designated Safeguarding Officer had been made redundant but there has been no official announcement of this.
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Post by Bath Gas on Dec 10, 2021 18:10:00 GMT
Someone on Gaschat posted "I'd like to think Bristol Rovers have some kind of player welfare safeguarding process in place to protect them from any kind of in-workplace bullying.. but who knows?" Last week I heard that Nikki Parker who is (still) described on the club website as Academy Operations Manager and Designated Safeguarding Officer had been made redundant but there has been no official announcement of this. I would imagine that the PFA rep has an eye on the players' welfare. Professional football and rugby dressing rooms operate very differently from a normal workplace, and can be quite brutal, and I'm not just talking about managers.
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Post by gasprom on Dec 10, 2021 18:28:34 GMT
Someone on Gaschat posted "I'd like to think Bristol Rovers have some kind of player welfare safeguarding process in place to protect them from any kind of in-workplace bullying.. but who knows?" Last week I heard that Nikki Parker who is (still) described on the club website as Academy Operations Manager and Designated Safeguarding Officer had been made redundant but there has been no official announcement of this. I would imagine that the PFA rep has an eye on the players' welfare. Professional football and rugby dressing rooms operate very differently from a normal workplace, and can be quite brutal, and I'm not just talking about managers. Joey strikes me as a bit of a Gene Hunt
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Post by swissgas on Dec 10, 2021 18:35:34 GMT
Someone on Gaschat posted "I'd like to think Bristol Rovers have some kind of player welfare safeguarding process in place to protect them from any kind of in-workplace bullying.. but who knows?" Last week I heard that Nikki Parker who is (still) described on the club website as Academy Operations Manager and Designated Safeguarding Officer had been made redundant but there has been no official announcement of this. I would imagine that the PFA rep has an eye on the players' welfare. Professional football and rugby dressing rooms operate very differently from a normal workplace, and can be quite brutal, and I'm not just talking about managers. Yes, I'm only too aware of that BG having once been the subject of a tongue lashing from Gerry Francis when, in the heat of the moment, he got me mixed up with one of the players. But times change and whatever business you are in the subject of mental health is one which has to be taken seriously as evidenced by these EFL guidelines. www.efl.com/siteassets/image/202021/general-news-images/safeguarding-stadards-guide_2021-22-final-version-1.pdfWith everything that Tom Gorringe has taken on I hope he is able to get his priorities right and not make the mistake of thinking that a designated safeguarding officer can be let go with no provision made for a replacement.
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