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Post by baselswh on May 16, 2021 18:42:34 GMT
I think JB and WAQ would of had a good chinwag on this Knowall. JB has fitness high on his list of priorities for players.This season from 70 minutes,we often struggled.Not fit enough.JB has a point. I think he has a plan and WAQ will back him. As you say,time will tell. There are no 'fallen giants' in the 4th tier next time,a la Bolton Wanderers.Salford and Mansfield have a few job I think. I think we'll be challenge. Perhaps you know more than I do about how much finance is available? We might get a clue when the AGM is eventually held? - Not long to wait now. I don't know the finance,but I think it'll be competitive enough for JB.I think WAQ will back him best he can and that ought to be pretty good by next seasons 4th tier standards.
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Post by baselswh on May 16, 2021 18:46:38 GMT
99.9% of Managers join a new club and at least publicly talk enthusiastically about their chances.What did you expect? All that stuff about his cv and facing a ban is just hopeful speculation on your part. The squad he inherited from BG and TW was heading downwards.Maybe another type of manager might of got more out of them because as JB said,he would not of assembled that lot together. JB will probably get his chance next season with his signings.He deserves this. the ban thing speculation? What makes you sure he hadn’t done anything worthy of a ban, and you are not hopefully speculating? If he has done the crime, and because of his previous, he deserves the ban. That’s what he he will deserve. He may get banned but I'm not obsessed by it or hoping it actually happens. Break the rules/law,face justice ,accept punishment, then get back on with your life and in JBs case managing Rovers.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on May 16, 2021 20:37:53 GMT
the ban thing speculation? What makes you sure he hadn’t done anything worthy of a ban, and you are not hopefully speculating? If he has done the crime, and because of his previous, he deserves the ban. That’s what he he will deserve. He may get banned but I'm not obsessed by it or hoping it actually happens. Break the rules/law,face justice ,accept punishment, then get back on with your life and in JBs case managing Rovers. Banned from football and not be sacked and replaced? You’re a crazy crazy Basel 😆
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Post by baselswh on May 17, 2021 5:47:35 GMT
He may get banned but I'm not obsessed by it or hoping it actually happens. Break the rules/law,face justice ,accept punishment, then get back on with your life and in JBs case managing Rovers. Banned from football and not be sacked and replaced? You’re a crazy crazy Basel 😆 Any ban will be temporary. 'Suspended' is a more accurate word for you perhaps.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on May 17, 2021 15:42:58 GMT
Banned from football and not be sacked and replaced? You’re a crazy crazy Basel 😆 Any ban will be temporary. 'Suspended' is a more accurate word for you perhaps. Found guilty and banned from football, and remains in the job? That would be interesting. if you truly wanted to utterly shred the club, boards and owners reputation, that’s the route for you. 🙂
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Post by eppinggas on May 25, 2021 9:48:35 GMT
Banned from football and not be sacked and replaced? You’re a crazy crazy Basel 😆 Any ban will be temporary. 'Suspended' is a more accurate word for you perhaps. Depends how long an EFL suspension is. 3 months, Wael will probably stand by his man. 12 months or more, that puts Wael in an awful predicament. One that he willingly placed himself in. I think that the EFL may come down heavily on someone who has a lot of 'previous' dealings with them. And if Mr Barton is found guilty and a relatively short suspension of 3 months is handed out... what sort of precedent does that set? Ron Manager: "Well we lost 2-0 and their manager called me a scally so I head-butted him. Worst thing I'll get is a 3 month ban, so I thought why not. Marvellous. Isn't it?" That's not necessarily anti-Barton rhetoric - it's looking at the situation objectively. And once more... for the hard of understanding... If Mr Barton is found not guilty by the Court and the EFL - then that's fine by me. I'll just continue to monitor events from afar.
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Post by eppinggas on Jun 2, 2021 10:34:41 GMT
I guess we won't hear too much about transfer activity for the next week or so. Mr Barton is likely to be otherwise occupied.
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Post by holmesgas1 on Jun 2, 2021 21:15:55 GMT
I guess we won't hear too much about transfer activity for the next week or so. Mr Barton is likely to be otherwise occupied. Well it seems the youngsters are happy to stay, so some good news. Daly leaving also makes sense, though hopefully he makes it somewhere as he's a tryer.
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Post by eppinggas on Jun 3, 2021 9:01:21 GMT
I guess we won't hear too much about transfer activity for the next week or so. Mr Barton is likely to be otherwise occupied. Well it seems the youngsters are happy to stay, so some good news. Daly leaving also makes sense, though hopefully he makes it somewhere as he's a tryer. Which youngsters? Do have a source for that? Daly leaving - looks like on balance most people are surprised that we've let him go. Maybe he doesn't want to be here any more. I wish him well.
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Post by baselswh on Jun 3, 2021 9:07:05 GMT
I guess we won't hear too much about transfer activity for the next week or so. Mr Barton is likely to be otherwise occupied. Wrong.Daly gone. Five youngsters signed extensions.
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Post by holmesgas1 on Jun 3, 2021 9:30:34 GMT
Well it seems the youngsters are happy to stay, so some good news. Daly leaving also makes sense, though hopefully he makes it somewhere as he's a tryer. Which youngsters? Do have a source for that? Daly leaving - looks like on balance most people are surprised that we've let him go. Maybe he doesn't want to be here any more. I wish him well. The youngsters mentioned on the main site, plus not sure which Rovers fans your talking to, majority not surprised about Daly at all...
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Post by TaiwanGas on Jun 3, 2021 11:04:49 GMT
Which youngsters? Do have a source for that? Daly leaving - looks like on balance most people are surprised that we've let him go. Maybe he doesn't want to be here any more. I wish him well. The youngsters mentioned on the main site, plus not sure which Rovers fans your talking to, majority not surprised about Daly at all... I was surprised to see Daly let go, clearly I am not in the maj, good luck to him for the future!, he knows where the net is and he may come good for Stevenage.
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Post by holmesgas1 on Jun 3, 2021 11:52:49 GMT
The youngsters mentioned on the main site, plus not sure which Rovers fans your talking to, majority not surprised about Daly at all... I was surprised to see Daly let go, clearly I am not in the maj, good luck to him for the future!, he knows where the net is and he may come good for Stevenage. Agree that he may come back to haunt us, he always gave a 100%, but not sure we can wait for him to come good with the current balance of the squad. Stevenage may be able to give him that time and with less expectation. In a way he's been sacrificed due to the failure of the overall recruitment of last year....
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Post by eppinggas on Jun 3, 2021 14:08:13 GMT
Which youngsters? Do have a source for that? Daly leaving - looks like on balance most people are surprised that we've let him go. Maybe he doesn't want to be here any more. I wish him well. The youngsters mentioned on the main site, plus not sure which Rovers fans your talking to, majority not surprised about Daly at all... Apologies, I very rarely check the main site these days. So 5 youngsters have signed 6m / 1 year deals rather than not have a job. So when you say "seems the youngsters are happy" - I would be inclined to interpret that as "seems the youngsters are happy to have a job". I was only really looking at the reaction on 'James Daly to Stevenage'. I think if you'd asked people yesterday, I think you would have found a lot of support for him. But if Mr Barton says good riddance... It's actually great news because our Joey knows best and we're lucky to have him and lucky to get shot of that injury prone liability Daly. I would probably have kept him. Hey ho.
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Post by holmesgas1 on Jun 3, 2021 19:39:32 GMT
The youngsters mentioned on the main site, plus not sure which Rovers fans your talking to, majority not surprised about Daly at all... Apologies, I very rarely check the main site these days. So 5 youngsters have signed 6m / 1 year deals rather than not have a job. So when you say "seems the youngsters are happy" - I would be inclined to interpret that as "seems the youngsters are happy to have a job". I was only really looking at the reaction on 'James Daly to Stevenage'. I think if you'd asked people yesterday, I think you would have found a lot of support for him. But if Mr Barton says good riddance... It's actually great news because our Joey knows best and we're lucky to have him and lucky to get shot of that injury prone liability Daly. I would probably have kept him. Hey ho. You may be right, football is a job, but you can't criticise a manager for that. Also nobody said JB is king, just that he deserves a chance before people write him due to their prejudice.
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Post by eppinggas on Jun 4, 2021 10:49:57 GMT
Apologies, I very rarely check the main site these days. So 5 youngsters have signed 6m / 1 year deals rather than not have a job. So when you say "seems the youngsters are happy" - I would be inclined to interpret that as "seems the youngsters are happy to have a job". I was only really looking at the reaction on 'James Daly to Stevenage'. I think if you'd asked people yesterday, I think you would have found a lot of support for him. But if Mr Barton says good riddance... It's actually great news because our Joey knows best and we're lucky to have him and lucky to get shot of that injury prone liability Daly. I would probably have kept him. Hey ho. You may be right, football is a job, but you can't criticise a manager for that. Also nobody said JB is king, just that he deserves a chance before people write him due to their prejudice. I wasn't criticizing the manager (this time). I was looking at the comment "seems the youngsters are happy". Which is debatable. There are a few people around who genuinely believe he is 'the real deal' and 'has the potential to get us promoted'. From the 18 games he's been in charge, and from his public utterances, I believe he is nothing more than a charlatan with charisma (to some) and nothing more. IMHO - He's had more than enough chances. You believe he should be given yet another one. Agree to disagree.
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Post by holmesgas1 on Jun 4, 2021 16:02:50 GMT
You may be right, football is a job, but you can't criticise a manager for that. Also nobody said JB is king, just that he deserves a chance before people write him due to their prejudice. I wasn't criticizing the manager (this time). I was looking at the comment "seems the youngsters are happy". Which is debatable. There are a few people around who genuinely believe he is 'the real deal' and 'has the potential to get us promoted'. From the 18 games he's been in charge, and from his public utterances, I believe he is nothing more than a charlatan with charisma (to some) and nothing more. IMHO - He's had more than enough chances. You believe he should be given yet another one. Agree to disagree. Well I was just taking the natural step that if you sign a new contract your normally pretty happy about it. On JB, agree at the moment we agree to disagree. If we end up agreeing it will be sad day for Rovers, because it will be another manager who has completely failed, and I am sure between us we could name a few.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2021 20:49:50 GMT
Apologies, I very rarely check the main site these days. So 5 youngsters have signed 6m / 1 year deals rather than not have a job. So when you say "seems the youngsters are happy" - I would be inclined to interpret that as "seems the youngsters are happy to have a job". I was only really looking at the reaction on 'James Daly to Stevenage'. I think if you'd asked people yesterday, I think you would have found a lot of support for him. But if Mr Barton says good riddance... It's actually great news because our Joey knows best and we're lucky to have him and lucky to get shot of that injury prone liability Daly. I would probably have kept him. Hey ho. You may be right, football is a job, but you can't criticise a manager for that. Also nobody said JB is king, just that he deserves a chance before people write him due to their prejudice. Do you want to take another look at that and maybe change the word prejudice? Here's what it means, Every opinion about him that I've seen expressed on here relates to his documented behaviour.
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Post by holmesgas1 on Jun 4, 2021 20:54:37 GMT
You may be right, football is a job, but you can't criticise a manager for that. Also nobody said JB is king, just that he deserves a chance before people write him due to their prejudice. Do you want to take another look at that and maybe change the word prejudice? Here's what it means, Every opinion about him that I've seen expressed on here relates to his documented behaviour. Nope, think it's pretty accurate, but thanks for asking.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2021 21:02:00 GMT
Do you want to take another look at that and maybe change the word prejudice? Here's what it means, Every opinion about him that I've seen expressed on here relates to his documented behaviour. Nope, think it's pretty accurate, but thanks for asking. OK, who has shown any prejudice towards the bloke? Now that we've agreed the definition obviously there's no point mentioning anybody who is appalled by his violence or is disgusted by his continued association with characters such as his friend who has been convicted for murdering a Police officer.
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