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Post by swissgas on Apr 21, 2021 16:33:57 GMT
It is hard not to come to the conclusion that Barton is all bluster with no substance.
One example is his apparent enlistment of "leadership expert" Lt Colonel Chris Gibson whom he said was going to help restructure Rovers. On a quick google search I couldn't find anything connecting Chris Gibson to Fleetwood Town let alone transforming them but what I did find was that he is actually a motivational speaker who can be hired by the hour. So what we have here is Barton convincing many impressionable Gasheads that he is bringing in his own version of McKinsey & Company to restructure the entire Rovers organisation when in fact it is someone any company could engage to come in and spark up a staff meeting. Why do we keep falling for it ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2021 17:19:24 GMT
It is hard not to come to the conclusion that Barton is all bluster with no substance. One example is his apparent enlistment of "leadership expert" Lt Colonel Chris Gibson whom he said was going to help restructure Rovers. On a quick google search I couldn't find anything connecting Chris Gibson to Fleetwood Town let alone transforming them but what I did find was that he is actually a motivational speaker who can be hired by the hour. So what we have here is Barton convincing many impressionable Gasheads that he is bringing in his own version of McKinsey & Company to restructure the entire Rovers organisation when in fact it is someone any company could engage to come in and spark up a staff meeting. Why do we keep falling for it ? Ian Atkins once hired a Nutritionist without board approval. When her bill was received it was passed to Ian for him to settle personally. She was never seen again and the players were convinced the manager had fallen for her good looks rather than her ability.
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Post by pegsan007 on Apr 21, 2021 18:37:37 GMT
The Barton comment 'you can't turn water into wine' well sorry Joey, Widdrington thinks you can Is he questioning our DOF, how dare he.... TW + JB....a match made in heaven !
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Post by harrybuckle on Apr 21, 2021 18:43:41 GMT
I thought Andy Rammell had been brought in to stir the players making them aware an experienced striker was all that was needed to save us from the drop.
Brett Pittman. Paddy Madden, Cameron Jerome or Glenn Murray were all available but our recruitment department failed to act. Still feel Pittmsn would be worth signing for a season in the lowest tierm
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2021 19:51:54 GMT
It is hard not to come to the conclusion that Barton is all bluster with no substance. One example is his apparent enlistment of "leadership expert" Lt Colonel Chris Gibson whom he said was going to help restructure Rovers. On a quick google search I couldn't find anything connecting Chris Gibson to Fleetwood Town let alone transforming them but what I did find was that he is actually a motivational speaker who can be hired by the hour. So what we have here is Barton convincing many impressionable Gasheads that he is bringing in his own version of McKinsey & Company to restructure the entire Rovers organisation when in fact it is someone any company could engage to come in and spark up a staff meeting. Why do we keep falling for it ?
For fear of being labelled a stalker or a Troll by the guy who goes by the name of Pop, I will respectively refer to Growth-Pod, whom Col Gibson does work for around developing organisations, their culture and teamwork, and whose clients have included the FA, The Probation Service and various other quite sizable public and private sector clients.
Suprised the above poster didnt find this out, but its harder to put such a negative spin on it if so.
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Post by swissgas on Apr 21, 2021 20:11:34 GMT
It is hard not to come to the conclusion that Barton is all bluster with no substance. One example is his apparent enlistment of "leadership expert" Lt Colonel Chris Gibson whom he said was going to help restructure Rovers. On a quick google search I couldn't find anything connecting Chris Gibson to Fleetwood Town let alone transforming them but what I did find was that he is actually a motivational speaker who can be hired by the hour. So what we have here is Barton convincing many impressionable Gasheads that he is bringing in his own version of McKinsey & Company to restructure the entire Rovers organisation when in fact it is someone any company could engage to come in and spark up a staff meeting. Why do we keep falling for it ?
For fear of being labelled a stalker or a Troll by the guy who goes by the name of Pop, I will respectively refer to Growth-Pod, whom Col Gibson does work for around developing organisations, their culture and teamwork, and whose clients have included the FA, The Probation Service and various other quite sizable public and private sector clients.
Suprised the above poster didnt find this out, but its harder to put such a negative spin on it if so.
Is that the company owned by Chris, Emma and Blake the dog, formed in November 2019, shareholders funds minus £ 3,615.00 ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2021 22:08:28 GMT
For fear of being labelled a stalker or a Troll by the guy who goes by the name of Pop, I will respectively refer to Growth-Pod, whom Col Gibson does work for around developing organisations, their culture and teamwork, and whose clients have included the FA, The Probation Service and various other quite sizable public and private sector clients.
Suprised the above poster didnt find this out, but its harder to put such a negative spin on it if so.
Is that the company owned by Chris, Emma and Blake the dog, formed in November 2019, shareholders funds minus £ 3,615.00 ? Hey Knife Bloke. Was wondering why Punchy chose this company rather than calling in someone who had done a 2 day course in how to sell Kerby Vacuums, so went to their website and may have found the connection. Here you go, www.growth-pod.co.ukScroll down to the list of organisations named at the bottom, they have National Probation Service and H.M.Prison Service. As you say, nett company worth, - £3600 www.companysearchesmadesimple.com/company/uk/12314288/growth-pod-ltd/Cute dog though.
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Post by vaughan on Apr 21, 2021 22:29:23 GMT
It is hard not to come to the conclusion that Barton is all bluster with no substance. One example is his apparent enlistment of "leadership expert" Lt Colonel Chris Gibson whom he said was going to help restructure Rovers. On a quick google search I couldn't find anything connecting Chris Gibson to Fleetwood Town let alone transforming them but what I did find was that he is actually a motivational speaker who can be hired by the hour. So what we have here is Barton convincing many impressionable Gasheads that he is bringing in his own version of McKinsey & Company to restructure the entire Rovers organisation when in fact it is someone any company could engage to come in and spark up a staff meeting. Why do we keep falling for it ? You really need to do your homework, Swiss? Try his profile on LinkedIn where you can read about his organisational leadership skills. Next you will be mocking his MBE status? The irony of your latest post does not escape me. You constantly bang the drum of the club seeking suitable advisers, then undermine the ones before they are even appointed. What no-one has mentioned is that Barton is paying for his own staff, as he did at Fleetwood. That's why Mansel and Mesure have been retained. Just a bit of balance. Are you on LinkedIn by the way?
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Post by vaughan on Apr 21, 2021 22:32:11 GMT
Sorry Maher..
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Post by swissgas on Apr 21, 2021 22:37:50 GMT
Is that the company owned by Chris, Emma and Blake the dog, formed in November 2019, shareholders funds minus £ 3,615.00 ? Hey Knife Bloke. Was wondering why Punchy chose this company rather than calling in someone who had done a 2 day course in how to sell Kerby Vacuums, so went to their website and may have found the connection. Here you go, www.growth-pod.co.ukScroll down to the list of organisations named at the bottom, they have National Probation Service and H.M.Prison Service. As you say, nett company worth, - £3600 www.companysearchesmadesimple.com/company/uk/12314288/growth-pod-ltd/Cute dog though. I’m sure Chris Gibson is a decent chap and he and his partner have started a nice niche business which stands a good chance of being successful in their areas of expertise. But with the best will in the world a fifteen month old two person organization like this is not the right fit for Rovers and it would be interesting to hear what the Fleetwood owner would say about Barton’s claims. “He’s massive in terms of infrastructure and helping us understand how departments work with each other, and he was a key influencer of us being successful at Fleetwood and leaving Fleetwood in a much better place than when we found it, not only on the pitch, but off it in the business aspect.”
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Post by Angas on Apr 21, 2021 22:40:26 GMT
Do people write their own Linked In profiles?
Re paying his own staff. What I read today suggested that if this is the case, it's on the understanding that they will be put on the payroll before much longer. Maybe he'll get a refund when that happens but he's told us he's got plenty of money so presumably not bothered either way. Seems he's in charge of the whole show, just how he likes it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2021 23:06:09 GMT
Hey Knife Bloke. Was wondering why Punchy chose this company rather than calling in someone who had done a 2 day course in how to sell Kerby Vacuums, so went to their website and may have found the connection. Here you go, www.growth-pod.co.ukScroll down to the list of organisations named at the bottom, they have National Probation Service and H.M.Prison Service. As you say, nett company worth, - £3600 www.companysearchesmadesimple.com/company/uk/12314288/growth-pod-ltd/Cute dog though. I’m sure Chris Gibson is a decent chap and he and his partner have started a nice niche business which stands a good chance of being successful in their areas of expertise. But with the best will in the world a fifteen month old two person organization like this is not the right fit for Rovers and it would be interesting to hear what the Fleetwood owner would say about Barton’s claims. “He’s massive in terms of infrastructure and helping us understand how departments work with each other, and he was a key influencer of us being successful at Fleetwood and leaving Fleetwood in a much better place than when we found it, not only on the pitch, but off it in the business aspect.” I know nothing about that company or the people, they may be good at what they do, and I wish them every success in growing their business.
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Post by swissgas on Apr 21, 2021 23:16:47 GMT
It is hard not to come to the conclusion that Barton is all bluster with no substance. One example is his apparent enlistment of "leadership expert" Lt Colonel Chris Gibson whom he said was going to help restructure Rovers. On a quick google search I couldn't find anything connecting Chris Gibson to Fleetwood Town let alone transforming them but what I did find was that he is actually a motivational speaker who can be hired by the hour. So what we have here is Barton convincing many impressionable Gasheads that he is bringing in his own version of McKinsey & Company to restructure the entire Rovers organisation when in fact it is someone any company could engage to come in and spark up a staff meeting. Why do we keep falling for it ? You really need to do your homework, Swiss? Try his profile on LinkedIn where you can read about his organisational leadership skills. Next you will be mocking his MBE status? The irony of your latest post does not escape me. You constantly bang the drum of the club seeking suitable advisers, then undermine the ones before they are even appointed. What no-one has mentioned is that Barton is paying for his own staff, as he did at Fleetwood. That's why Mansel and Mesure have been retained. Just a bit of balance. Are you on LinkedIn by the way? I’m not on LinkedIn Vaughan we don’t approve of it here at SMERSH. And you are right I hadn’t delved deeply enough into Chris Gibson’s background so didn’t know about Growth-Pod until contradiction posted it. You are also right about me banging the drum for the club to go out and seek suitable advisors but the exact opposite has happened here. Wael has not carefully considered our situation and then sought advice from an appropriate source. Barton has said “look I know this bloke” and we have to assume Wael is going along with it but we don’t know because he hasn’t said anything. Making a decision on the basis of “knowing this bloke” is the archetypal way of initiating a “ cock up” as happens when your next door neighbor messes up your car engine or your brother in law proves he has insufficient knowledge of stock investing when your pension goes down the tubes. If you don’t do the proper research and make a considered decision but instead go for the easiest and most convenient option then IMO you are unlikely to be successful. But if someone can show that Fleetwood did engage Chris, he did make massive improvements to their business and infrastructure and that Wael is fully behind his involvement at Rovers then of course I am happy to accept this is something worth trying.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Apr 22, 2021 0:05:53 GMT
Is that the company owned by Chris, Emma and Blake the dog, formed in November 2019, shareholders funds minus £ 3,615.00 ? Hey Knife Bloke. Was wondering why Punchy chose this company rather than calling in someone who had done a 2 day course in how to sell Kerby Vacuums, so went to their website and may have found the connection. Here you go, www.growth-pod.co.ukScroll down to the list of organisations named at the bottom, they have National Probation Service and H.M.Prison Service. As you say, nett company worth, - £3600 www.companysearchesmadesimple.com/company/uk/12314288/growth-pod-ltd/Cute dog though. The Probation Service 😆. weren’t Swiss Army Knives German?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2021 8:50:10 GMT
You really need to do your homework, Swiss? Try his profile on LinkedIn where you can read about his organisational leadership skills. Next you will be mocking his MBE status? The irony of your latest post does not escape me. You constantly bang the drum of the club seeking suitable advisers, then undermine the ones before they are even appointed. What no-one has mentioned is that Barton is paying for his own staff, as he did at Fleetwood. That's why Mansel and Mesure have been retained. Just a bit of balance. Are you on LinkedIn by the way? I’m not on LinkedIn Vaughan we don’t approve of it here at SMERSH. And you are right I hadn’t delved deeply enough into Chris Gibson’s background so didn’t know about Growth-Pod until contradiction posted it. You are also right about me banging the drum for the club to go out and seek suitable advisors but the exact opposite has happened here. Wael has not carefully considered our situation and then sought advice from an appropriate source. Barton has said “look I know this bloke” and we have to assume Wael is going along with it but we don’t know because he hasn’t said anything. Making a decision on the basis of “knowing this bloke” is the archetypal way of initiating a “ cock up” as happens when your next door neighbor messes up your car engine or your brother in law proves he has insufficient knowledge of stock investing when your pension goes down the tubes. If you don’t do the proper research and make a considered decision but instead go for the easiest and most convenient option then IMO you are unlikely to be successful. But if someone can show that Fleetwood did engage Chris, he did make massive improvements to their business and infrastructure and that Wael is fully behind his involvement at Rovers then of course I am happy to accept this is something worth trying. Hope this is not viewed as Trolling. I prefer to class it as irony
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2021 9:11:23 GMT
I’m not on LinkedIn Vaughan we don’t approve of it here at SMERSH. And you are right I hadn’t delved deeply enough into Chris Gibson’s background so didn’t know about Growth-Pod until contradiction posted it. You are also right about me banging the drum for the club to go out and seek suitable advisors but the exact opposite has happened here. Wael has not carefully considered our situation and then sought advice from an appropriate source. Barton has said “look I know this bloke” and we have to assume Wael is going along with it but we don’t know because he hasn’t said anything. Making a decision on the basis of “knowing this bloke” is the archetypal way of initiating a “ cock up” as happens when your next door neighbor messes up your car engine or your brother in law proves he has insufficient knowledge of stock investing when your pension goes down the tubes. If you don’t do the proper research and make a considered decision but instead go for the easiest and most convenient option then IMO you are unlikely to be successful. But if someone can show that Fleetwood did engage Chris, he did make massive improvements to their business and infrastructure and that Wael is fully behind his involvement at Rovers then of course I am happy to accept this is something worth trying. Hope this is not viewed as Trolling. I prefer to class it as irony Welcome back, I see you have added a couple of interesting posts to the forum and have taken on board the incidents of trolling. Keep up the good work.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2021 9:13:08 GMT
Do people write their own Linked In profiles? Re paying his own staff. What I read today suggested that if this is the case, it's on the understanding that they will be put on the payroll before much longer. Maybe he'll get a refund when that happens but he's told us he's got plenty of money so presumably not bothered either way. Seems he's in charge of the whole show, just how he likes it. Maybe Wael has agreed to take them on if Barton manages to stay out of Prison this summer? That would make sense with the timing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2021 9:14:03 GMT
I’m not on LinkedIn Vaughan we don’t approve of it here at SMERSH. And you are right I hadn’t delved deeply enough into Chris Gibson’s background so didn’t know about Growth-Pod until contradiction posted it. You are also right about me banging the drum for the club to go out and seek suitable advisors but the exact opposite has happened here. Wael has not carefully considered our situation and then sought advice from an appropriate source. Barton has said “look I know this bloke” and we have to assume Wael is going along with it but we don’t know because he hasn’t said anything. Making a decision on the basis of “knowing this bloke” is the archetypal way of initiating a “ cock up” as happens when your next door neighbor messes up your car engine or your brother in law proves he has insufficient knowledge of stock investing when your pension goes down the tubes. If you don’t do the proper research and make a considered decision but instead go for the easiest and most convenient option then IMO you are unlikely to be successful. But if someone can show that Fleetwood did engage Chris, he did make massive improvements to their business and infrastructure and that Wael is fully behind his involvement at Rovers then of course I am happy to accept this is something worth trying. Hope this is not viewed as Trolling. I prefer to class it as irony I'm a bit confused here Contraception, the Growth-Pod website appears to be focused on ideas such as 'positive wellbeing'. Based on what Barton has been saying about the culture throughout the club being dysfunctional, I would have thought that a business management consultancy would be required rather than a company who appear to provide motivational speaking services?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2021 9:23:38 GMT
To be honest I don't care who Barton brings in to make the team successful as clearly he is incapable of motivating players on his own.
Anything above his remit as a manager should be left to the board or there will be more chaos than what is normal in BS7.
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Post by vaughan on Apr 22, 2021 9:23:40 GMT
I suspect that he will be paying for his services directly to help him. I am glad that he is not involved in the football World.
The Manager needs to improve his communication style. He is too much of an open book and there is "a stream of consciousness" (James Joyce) feel about his delivery. Try reading Ulysses.
As I said, we will be going into the ugly zone. Barton needs to be allowed to rip up the Garner / TW / Starnes DNA model. Only he is brave enough to hold Wael's hand to deliver on this.
Barton will not be here for more than 2 years. He is a classical disruptor, but sometimes you need this.
Once done, we can invite DC back to lead us. He will realise that the grass is not always greener by then.
Barton knows that you live and die by your recruitment. Good men like Olly, Trolls and DC fell foul of this....in time. The fact that everyone at the club allowed us to start the season with Ayunga, Daly and Hanlan up-front amounts to criminal negligence. TW is toast.
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