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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2021 11:48:50 GMT
I know in all sports that teams and individuals are always trying to find that extra 5%, trying to keep ahead of the Joneses, and that the psychological aspect is important: being focused; strong mentally as well as physically; having a positive mental attitude; having motivational speakers, players who have been there and done it (Andy Rammell this week); watching motivational videos; relaxation and breathing techniques, visualising being in the moment, in the winning place. But I wonder whether there is a point where you've gone too far, at the expense of the most important part - the sport you are playing. Here are some Bristol Post articles and interviews with JB's. With the first I've copied and pasted some of the text (there is far too much to paste it all), but the whole article should be read to give context. Friday 09/04/2021 - www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/joey-barton-bristol-rovers-secret-5281904"I’ve always been influenced by great coaches and great coaching dynasties; Bill Parcells, Tom Coughlin, Bill Belichick etc. I’m not going to be the best version of me if I just do football. We can’t run them (the players) on the pitch because we physically can’t do the sessions from a technical and tactical perspective because of time constraints. So you’re delving into other places. You want to affect them as human beings. Our job is helping them to become better people, because if they are going to become better people there’s a chance they’re going to become better players. Sometimes football has to be a sanctuary from the outside world. A place where young men can come for lots of reasons to help them in their lives; from a mental health perspective, from a spiritual perspective, from a financial perspective.” ... The concepts of grounding ceremony are drawn from Pagan tradition and, so the theory goes, by removing your shoes and standing barefoot on the ground allows negative energy to leave your body while also absorbing positive energy from your chosen sacred space. That is, in the case of Rovers, the Memorial Stadium pitch, stands and all the history within the land, as Barton, his staff and the squad removed their boots to soak up the energy. It’s probably easier if the man in charge is left to explain. “The theory behind it is, the earth is a huge ball of molten lava spinning around the sun which is emitting electrical and heat pulses,” he said, with absolute sincerity and conviction. The earth gets struck by lightning multiple times a day and absorbs positive and negative electrons and because of our bodies, we’re mainly water, and the moon affects tides and it’s logical to think the moon affects us. So if you keep your shoes on, you’ve got rubber in the bottom of your soles. But obviously we’re made, developed over the evolutionary process, to walk bare-footed; that’s why we have hard skin on the bottom of our feet. If we walk on beaches or grass, the positive and negative electrons in your body are able to escape via the bottom of your feet and you recharge with positive electrons. Which makes sense to me. If the earth is constantly struck by the sun and these invisible forces of gravity and things we are unaware of." Rovers trained at the Mem on Friday morning where another grounding ceremony was conducted before they hit the M4 bound for Northamptonshire. “The sacred space is the key. The Greeks believed in chronos – which is clock time – and kairos – which is significant time. If you are member of a tribe and you got initiated into a sacred space, it was the ability for time and space to alter from normality,” he added. “Most people travel through life operating in a normal time and space (chronos). You can think about when you go out with your friends and family, or you go on holiday, or when you’re together with people that you love, Christmas; time and space seems to move quicker (kairos)." Others... Saturday 10/04/2021 - www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/joey-barton-bristol-rovers-rammell-5282826Friday 26/02/2021 - www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/joey-barton-japanese-philosophy-behind-5050710There is one gashead , former WBC super middleweight world champion, who the club have overlooked in getting the team prepared, mentally Glenn Cattley has been helping many with his hypnotherapy and motivational skills. It would be much easier to understand than the ramblings of tbe pseudo intellectual, Barton My claim to fame, I decked Glen Catley. Well, I sold him the decking so that he could build one.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2021 12:15:56 GMT
Bump. Joey Barton is unfit to manage Bristol Rovers. As you profess not to follow or support Rovers any more, is that a balanced opinion from a dispassionate observer?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2021 12:30:57 GMT
There's a huge difference between refusing to give tangible support, as in pay to stream or attend matches, purchase merchandise etc, and losing all interest in the fortunes of a club that someone has followed long before Wael and Barton arrived, and with a bit of luck, as long as we are around to do it, will still be supporting long after both of them are gone.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 11, 2021 16:54:45 GMT
There is one gashead , former WBC super middleweight world champion, who the club have overlooked in getting the team prepared, mentally Glenn Cattley has been helping many with his hypnotherapy and motivational skills. It would be much easier to understand than the ramblings of tbe pseudo intellectual, Barton My claim to fame, I decked Glen Catley. Well, I sold him the decking so that he could build one. I’ve had the pleasure of knowing and following his fights since he went pro. He used to pop into the ring o bells and it still has his world title winning gloves, in pride of place. He really does work wonders in motivation and achievements and sans all the frankly daft stuff that Barton quotes. I have always felt pride when any local does well and none more so than Glen
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2021 16:58:25 GMT
My claim to fame, I decked Glen Catley. Well, I sold him the decking so that he could build one. I’ve had the pleasure of knowing and flowing his fights since he went pro. He used to pop into the ring o bells and it still has his world title winning gloves, in pride of place. He really does work wonders in motivation and achievements and sans all the frankly daft stuff that Barton quotes. I have always felt pride when any local does well and none more so than Glen I had the privilege of meeting him at a Bristol Sporting Club dinner after he won his Lonsdale Belt. I told a good friend the next day that I had held a Lonsdale Belt the previous night to which I was told, "Well you would have to hold it as it wouldn't go around your f***ing waist would it." I love my mates I will have to find the picture.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 11, 2021 17:05:43 GMT
I’ve had the pleasure of knowing and flowing his fights since he went pro. He used to pop into the ring o bells and it still has his world title winning gloves, in pride of place. He really does work wonders in motivation and achievements and sans all the frankly daft stuff that Barton quotes. I have always felt pride when any local does well and none more so than Glen I had the privilege of meeting him at a Bristol Sporting Club dinner after he won his Lonsdale Belt. I told a good friend the next day that I had held a Lonsdale Belt the previous night to which I was told, "Well you would have to hold it as it wouldn't go around your f***ing waist would it." I love my mates I will have to find the picture. See, that is exactly the sort of humour that got me supporting the Rovers. I’m looking forward to the BSC having a boxing night , when able yet I was getting fed up of it prior to this pandemic . Dave Rayfield did ask about you, when we last brought this up and I forgot to say that he isn’t at all well. Things are not looking good pop, several operations flowed by radiotherapy abd chemo have not got rid of the awful disease. Feel quite sad for him as he’s had a poor run of ill health.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2021 17:17:09 GMT
I had the privilege of meeting him at a Bristol Sporting Club dinner after he won his Lonsdale Belt. I told a good friend the next day that I had held a Lonsdale Belt the previous night to which I was told, "Well you would have to hold it as it wouldn't go around your f***ing waist would it." I love my mates I will have to find the picture. See, that is exactly the sort of humour that got me supporting the Rovers. I’m looking forward to the BSC having a boxing night , when able yet I was getting fed up of it prior to this pandemic . Dave Rayfield did ask about you, when we last brought this up and I forgot to say that he isn’t at all well. Things are not looking good pop, several operations flowed by radiotherapy abd chemo have not got rid of the awful disease. Feel quite sad for him as he’s had a poor run of ill health. Bless him. pass on my regards, I think I mentioned in the past that I saved him once before but this one is beyond me so hopefully somebody with more power can deliver this time.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 11, 2021 17:48:57 GMT
See, that is exactly the sort of humour that got me supporting the Rovers. I’m looking forward to the BSC having a boxing night , when able yet I was getting fed up of it prior to this pandemic . Dave Rayfield did ask about you, when we last brought this up and I forgot to say that he isn’t at all well. Things are not looking good pop, several operations flowed by radiotherapy abd chemo have not got rid of the awful disease. Feel quite sad for him as he’s had a poor run of ill health. Bless him. pass on my regards, I think I mentioned in the past that I saved him once before but this one is beyond me so hopefully somebody with more power can deliver this time. He is not moaning nor feeling sorry for himself, I think he is to be praised in how he is dealing with it. He is not short of good people , were it a problem with treatment but he’s still the same old Dave. I will pass on your regards as I know he appreciates that.
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Post by eppinggas on Apr 11, 2021 20:26:25 GMT
Bump. Joey Barton is unfit to manage Bristol Rovers. As you profess not to follow or support Rovers any more, is that a balanced opinion from a dispassionate observer? Yes.
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Post by eppinggas on Apr 11, 2021 22:18:07 GMT
My claim to fame, I decked Glen Catley. Well, I sold him the decking so that he could build one. I’ve had the pleasure of knowing and following his fights since he went pro. He used to pop into the ring o bells and it still has his world title winning gloves, in pride of place. He really does work wonders in motivation and achievements and sans all the frankly daft stuff that Barton quotes. I have always felt pride when any local does well and none more so than Glen Top bloke by all accounts. Still in Frampton / Coalpit Heath? I know the dogs still get walked to Iron Acton on a regular basis. Hope all well Jools. Cheers.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 12, 2021 10:46:02 GMT
I’ve had the pleasure of knowing and following his fights since he went pro. He used to pop into the ring o bells and it still has his world title winning gloves, in pride of place. He really does work wonders in motivation and achievements and sans all the frankly daft stuff that Barton quotes. I have always felt pride when any local does well and none more so than Glen Top bloke by all accounts. Still in Frampton / Coalpit Heath? I know the dogs still get walked to Iron Acton on a regular basis. Hope all well Jools. Cheers. Yes, He has a nice house in Frampton and has added a lot to it. His Akita died and he was heartbroken but now has a young pup and is enjoying him. No one could ever say that wining the title went to his head, he’s one of the nicest people I have ever met. I’m ok thanks for asking Ian. Still fighting the illness but talking much less about it as I realised there were a fair few who seemed to be questioning and even saying I was lying. Never to my face but using fake accounts to do so. Bloody sad folk about mate
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2021 12:58:12 GMT
KP, why would people do that? As you say, sad folk about.
I don't know you from Adam, but wish you good health.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 12, 2021 13:48:52 GMT
KP, why would people do that? As you say, sad folk about. I don't know you from Adam, but wish you good health. Your guess is as good as mine but there are still a lot who only look at the outside appearance.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2021 8:48:59 GMT
Just to make this clear, before the event.
Having been amongst the harshest critics of the appointment of Barton and wanting him as far away from Rovers as possible, no, I won't regard relegation as some kind of victory that proves a point.
Nothing bad happening to this club is ever a good thing, I just don't want him here, and also want Wael gone due to his dire judgement and having a one way ticket to bankruptcy under his leadership.
Just nipping that in the bud, so if we do get relegated there aren't any 'I suppose you are happy now as you wanted him to fail all along' posts.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2021 9:39:27 GMT
KP, why would people do that? As you say, sad folk about. I don't know you from Adam, but wish you good health. Your guess is as good as mine but there are still a lot who only look at the outside appearance. They're the shallow ones then. I'm sure some people can't believe someone is unwell unless they are wired to a machine, or have an axe hanging out of their head. Be well mate.
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Post by eppinggas on Apr 13, 2021 10:01:21 GMT
Just to make this clear, before the event. Having been amongst the harshest critics of the appointment of Barton and wanting him as far away from Rovers as possible, no, I won't regard relegation as some kind of victory that proves a point. Nothing bad happening to this club is ever a good thing, I just don't want him here, and also want Wael gone due to his dire judgement and having a one way ticket to bankruptcy under his leadership. Just nipping that in the bud, so if we do get relegated there aren't any 'I suppose you are happy now as you wanted him to fail all along' posts. Good point TTWD. The Barton Fanboys will need it spelling out when they're looking to lash out (should we get relegated). In an ideal world: 1. Obviously Rovers stay up. 2. Our manager is replaced soon after June 7th - as I assume he can't work for Her Majesty and Wael Al-Qadi at the same time. And we can build for next season with a united fan base. 3. Wael puts forward a credible, sustainable business plan. A strange accumulator: 11-4, 1-10, 1000-1. I made the last two up.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2021 11:25:41 GMT
What's Barton Fanboys? Is it an area of Eastern England where people maintain overly close relationships with their siblings?
Has anyone suggested that anyone wants Rovers to be relegated, or are you just being antagonistic?
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 13, 2021 15:17:17 GMT
Your guess is as good as mine but there are still a lot who only look at the outside appearance. They're the shallow ones then. I'm sure some people can't believe someone is unwell unless they are wired to a machine, or have an axe hanging out of their head. Be well mate. Thank you. I’ve had the last rites administered last year but I made it through. Without going into it, my ex wrote something that a certain person blamed me for and I had that blown out of proportion and an attempt of a total character assassination was made on me. once social media get onto this, it can get very silly.
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Post by eppinggas on Apr 21, 2021 15:04:55 GMT
Back on topic. I've had a chance to review things. No. Mr Barton is not fit to manage Bristol Rovers FC. My initial response was based on him being a failed human being. A violent man, with a violent past. Never any sign of remorse, and therefore no chance of redemption. Delusional. In love with himself, social media and the cult of celebrity. Now, after 2 months and 15 games in charge, I have analysed the available data and would also conclude that he is a failed football manager. Totally out of his depth and unable to motivate or organise the (admittedly poor) squad of players. Mr Barton would have the simple-minded believe he is not to blame. For anything. Ever. He always plays the victim. He likes to "tell it like it is" though, eh? What's not to like? Well actually, as it transpires, an awful lot.
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Post by pegsan007 on Apr 21, 2021 15:37:34 GMT
Not fit to manage us. An awful appointment im my opinion and sadly we have got what we deserved. He has achieved nothing in his time here, the constant blaming of officials has already become tiring. Why this football club decided to appoint this clown is really beyond me. I am totally disgusted and feel let down on this fiasco of a season. You really could not make this up !!!!! The recruitment has been a complete shambles on the player front and we all know who to blame on this! The choice on Barton to represent this club is even worse in my opinion. I totally agree with eppingas Barton is not fit to manage Bristol Rovers FC.....a violent man with a violent past, what image does that portray to our young supporters ? Barton...OUT and let's put this disastrous season behind us.....and move forward without this thug.
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