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Post by Peter Parker on Mar 24, 2021 9:22:50 GMT
Much of what you suggest WM will be on WAQs and JBs list. JB may succeed.As Tisdale quite likely would of done. This squad is simply not good enough,a 4th tier squad. 99.9% of managers would struggle with them. JB has a plan.It is quite likely a very good one. I honestly don’t know what people have seen to make them think Barton will prove to be a good league two manager, especially with the sort of budget we will have. His audition hasn’t gone well so far with him struggling to get results against the dregs. People were behind Barton because they thought he would scare the team into getting results. If they are scared of him they aren’t showing it are they? He couldn’t get a tune out of a music box at the moment. Thats the thing for me. Barton may have great ideas, and he may be a success if he gets his way. BUT he has so far done nothing to suggest his way will be any good. Not saying it would be easy under the circumstances, but he is wiping his hands of this season and distancing himself as far away from it as possible. Although I dint and dont particularly want him here, I am not calling for him to be sacked, but all he is doing is promising a brighter future when he gets it all his own way, whilst we slip away partially under his management. He isnt doing a lot to convince me that he has deserves the chance.
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Post by eppinggas on Mar 24, 2021 9:25:21 GMT
Just my opinion Bas but if he were to learn he would simply do a metaphorical sweeping of the desk knowing everything onto the floor and start again. New board team, new players, new manager. Have a proper hiring process for each, rather than hiring mates or footballing celebrities. You simply can’t trust a bloke to run anything competently when he makes hiring decisions based on hiring mates or on who gets the most Twitter likes. The only positive about relegation is that it will make that course of action pressing and urgent. If we stayed up by a single solitary point I can imagine Wael patting himself and Widdrington on the back and we would be in for more of the same next season. Much of what you suggest WM will be on WAQs and JBs list. JB may succeed.As Tisdale quite likely would of done. This squad is simply not good enough,a 4th tier squad. 99.9% of managers would struggle with them. JB has a plan.It is quite likely a very good one.Stunned silence in Epping.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 9:27:19 GMT
I honestly don’t know what people have seen to make them think Barton will prove to be a good league two manager, especially with the sort of budget we will have. His audition hasn’t gone well so far with him struggling to get results against the dregs. People were behind Barton because they thought he would scare the team into getting results. If they are scared of him they aren’t showing it are they? He couldn’t get a tune out of a music box at the moment. He can't sign any players or get rid of any. He's stuck in the WAQ,Garner and Widdrington mess.Just as Tisdale was. Signing the players is only 20% of the battle, he’s going to have to manage them on a match day isn’t he? He’s shown little sign of having any sort of golden touch at that so far. Even Garner managed a better ppg with this mob, which is frightening because Garner was a PE teacher.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 9:31:32 GMT
Barton has given up on the season going by his interview. Looks like he is planning on ripping everything up and bringing in all his own staff and hangers on like Jennings. i know he is softly spoken in interviews, but nothing in his interview screamed any fight in trying to keep the team up A DC or a GC interview would at least give you a they will die trying, no stone unturned to stay up even if you ultimately fail JB seems like he wants nothing to do with the here and now and has to have ot all his way despite signing on for this The current squad is not his fault and neither was it Tisdale's who was battling with a non league DOF from the day he arrived. If Barton has been given free reign to rebuild from scratch then I wish it had been his predecessor. As I said at the time of his appointment, Tisdale can rebuild a football club given time, it's on his CV but his appointment to fire fight somebody else's squad was wrong and Barton is making an even worse job of it. Widdrington should have been made to do that role until the end of the season. I wish Barton would stop repetitively hammering the officials, we know they are crap on occasions and it is part of the British game at this level but we are not being singled out but could be soon with his continuing personal comments against them. Well, the players and coaches now know that many of them won't be here next season as team Barton is being lined up to replace them. I hope Wael has a plan B if and when Barton either gets sent to prison, receives an FA ban in June.
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Post by mangogas15 on Mar 24, 2021 9:38:19 GMT
Barton has given up on the season going by his interview. Looks like he is planning on ripping everything up and bringing in all his own staff and hangers on like Jennings. i know he is softly spoken in interviews, but nothing in his interview screamed any fight in trying to keep the team up A DC or a GC interview would at least give you a they will die trying, no stone unturned to stay up even if you ultimately fail JB seems like he wants nothing to do with the here and now and has to have ot all his way despite signing on for this The current squad is not his fault and neither was it Tisdale's who was battling with a non league DOF from the day he arrived. If Barton has been given free reign to rebuild from scratch then I wish it had been his predecessor. As I said at the time of his appointment, Tisdale can rebuild a football club given time, it's on his CV but his appointment to fire fight somebody else's squad was wrong and Barton is making an even worse job of it. Widdrington should have been made to do that role until the end of the season. I wish Barton would stop repetitively hammering the officials, we know they are crap on occasions and it is part of the British game at this level but we are not being singled out but could be soon with his continuing personal comments against them. Well, the players and coaches now know that many of them won't be here next season as team Barton is being lined up to replace them. I hope Wael has a plan B if and when Barton either gets sent to prison, receives an FA ban in June. He is right about the officials. He would be wrong to ignore that. Tisdale had a transfer window, shocking performance in that window from him. Who is the manager, Tisdale or Widdrington, or Wael? The signs were there and we will go down because of Tisdales lack of signings in Jan.
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Post by Peter Parker on Mar 24, 2021 9:44:22 GMT
The current squad is not his fault and neither was it Tisdale's who was battling with a non league DOF from the day he arrived. If Barton has been given free reign to rebuild from scratch then I wish it had been his predecessor. As I said at the time of his appointment, Tisdale can rebuild a football club given time, it's on his CV but his appointment to fire fight somebody else's squad was wrong and Barton is making an even worse job of it. Widdrington should have been made to do that role until the end of the season. I wish Barton would stop repetitively hammering the officials, we know they are crap on occasions and it is part of the British game at this level but we are not being singled out but could be soon with his continuing personal comments against them. Well, the players and coaches now know that many of them won't be here next season as team Barton is being lined up to replace them. I hope Wael has a plan B if and when Barton either gets sent to prison, receives an FA ban in June. He is right about the officials. He would be wrong to ignore that. Tisdale had a transfer window, shocking performance in that window from him. Who is the manager, Tisdale or Widdrington, or Wael? The signs were there and we will go down because of Tisdales lack of signings in Jan. he might be right about the officials, but they are crap for all the teams, not just Bristol Rovers
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 9:54:36 GMT
The current squad is not his fault and neither was it Tisdale's who was battling with a non league DOF from the day he arrived. If Barton has been given free reign to rebuild from scratch then I wish it had been his predecessor. As I said at the time of his appointment, Tisdale can rebuild a football club given time, it's on his CV but his appointment to fire fight somebody else's squad was wrong and Barton is making an even worse job of it. Widdrington should have been made to do that role until the end of the season. I wish Barton would stop repetitively hammering the officials, we know they are crap on occasions and it is part of the British game at this level but we are not being singled out but could be soon with his continuing personal comments against them. Well, the players and coaches now know that many of them won't be here next season as team Barton is being lined up to replace them. I hope Wael has a plan B if and when Barton either gets sent to prison, receives an FA ban in June. He is right about the officials. He would be wrong to ignore that. Tisdale had a transfer window, shocking performance in that window from him. Who is the manager, Tisdale or Widdrington, or Wael? The signs were there and we will go down because of Tisdales lack of signings in Jan. Blame Tisdale if you want to it will make you love Joey more but Tisdale was not the problem. Perhaps last night Wael was given a few home truths about his clubs structure or the lack of it. There was little chance of Widdrington backing Tisdale in the window, He told us himself that the squad was good enough and could score goals "100%". Blaming the officials will not help us to win games, it will just deflect attention away from our own inabilities. At the end of this season I think that Bartons record with this squad will be the poorest of this seasons 3 managers so if we do go down it will be because he got the least out of a crap bunch assembled by Widdrington and Garner who are the real villains not Tisdale.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 9:57:33 GMT
He is right about the officials. He would be wrong to ignore that. Tisdale had a transfer window, shocking performance in that window from him. Who is the manager, Tisdale or Widdrington, or Wael? The signs were there and we will go down because of Tisdales lack of signings in Jan. he might be right about the officials, but they are crap for all the teams, not just Bristol Rovers Spot on PP. Barton is a master of deflecting blame, he does it every time things go wrong for him in football and his numerous brushes with violence both inside and outside the game.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 10:15:30 GMT
Much of what you suggest WM will be on WAQs and JBs list. JB may succeed.As Tisdale quite likely would of done. This squad is simply not good enough,a 4th tier squad. 99.9% of managers would struggle with them. JB has a plan.It is quite likely a very good one.Stunned silence in Epping. Likewise here. I don’t see a plan other than talk, blame, talk, talk, Mike Jones and repeat
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Post by basel on Mar 24, 2021 11:18:01 GMT
Stunned silence in Epping. Likewise here. I don’t see a plan other than talk, blame, talk, talk, Mike Jones and repeat The plan will begin to be implemented at the end of the season. In the meantime JB works with the mess.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 11:35:20 GMT
Likewise here. I don’t see a plan other than talk, blame, talk, talk, Mike Jones and repeat The plan will begin to be implemented at the end of the season. In the meantime JB works with the mess. What does Barton know about planning an escape from league two with a restricted budget? There is a man who knows how to do that- but it ain’t Joey Barton.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 11:36:50 GMT
Likewise here. I don’t see a plan other than talk, blame, talk, talk, Mike Jones and repeat The plan will begin to be implemented at the end of the season. In the meantime JB works with the mess. I’m sorry Basel, I don’t buy it. When he came in relegation was not a foregone conclusion, we weren’t even in the bottom 4. Now after weeks of talking about standards, being elite, and a constant negative blame culture, we are in a position where a large proportion of the fan base are accepting that relegation was always inevitable, it’s all down to Ben Garner and Mike Jones, and Joey will fix it in the summer. I’m not swallowing any of it myself. The remit this season was clear and simple and he’s failing, but he’s coating his failure in blame and bull💩
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Post by basel on Mar 24, 2021 11:48:02 GMT
The plan will begin to be implemented at the end of the season. In the meantime JB works with the mess. I’m sorry Basel, I don’t buy it. When he came in relegation was not a foregone conclusion, we weren’t even in the bottom 4. Now after weeks of talking about standards, being elite, and a constant negative blame culture, we are in a position where a large proportion of the fan base are accepting that relegation was always inevitable, it’s all down to Ben Garner and Mike Jones, and Joey will fix it in the summer. I’m not swallowing any of it myself. The remit this season was clear and simple and he’s failing, but he’s coating his failure in blame and bull💩 Yes Vlad,but you hope our manager goes to prison. FCs need structure and discipline . JB has chance of succeeding given a chance imo. 99.9% of managers would struggle with this squad. Changes to be made at the end of the season.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 11:59:19 GMT
The plan will begin to be implemented at the end of the season. In the meantime JB works with the mess. I’m sorry Basel, I don’t buy it. When he came in relegation was not a foregone conclusion, we weren’t even in the bottom 4. Now after weeks of talking about standards, being elite, and a constant negative blame culture, we are in a position where a large proportion of the fan base are accepting that relegation was always inevitable, it’s all down to Ben Garner and Mike Jones, and Joey will fix it in the summer. I’m not swallowing any of it myself. The remit this season was clear and simple and he’s failing, but he’s coating his failure in blame and bull💩 Objectively, it’s hard to argue with those as the facts. When Barton came in people were bullish that he could build on the Portsmouth win and the positive performance against Gillingham. Like you say we weren’t in the relegation zone at the time. Are we now better than those two performances under Widdrington? I think in time not making Widdrington sit down at the table and eat the dinner that he served up to everyone else is going to go down as another catastrophic decision to go with all the others since Garner arrived.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 12:03:54 GMT
I’m sorry Basel, I don’t buy it. When he came in relegation was not a foregone conclusion, we weren’t even in the bottom 4. Now after weeks of talking about standards, being elite, and a constant negative blame culture, we are in a position where a large proportion of the fan base are accepting that relegation was always inevitable, it’s all down to Ben Garner and Mike Jones, and Joey will fix it in the summer. I’m not swallowing any of it myself. The remit this season was clear and simple and he’s failing, but he’s coating his failure in blame and bull💩 Yes Blad,but you hope our manager goes to prison. FCs need structure and discipline . JB has chance of succeeding given a chance imo. 99.9% of managers would struggle with this squad. Changes to be made at the end of the season. I’m sure Vlad just wants justice to be done- as we all should. But I’m sure there are those who want justice not to be done just so Joey Barton can still be the pride of Bristol Rovers. I think people are under estimating what the FA will do if Barton is found guilty but walks free. I can honestly see the club becoming a laughing stock by the FA trying to ban Barton from stadiums and Rovers trying to work around it by having him managing by phone. Rovers are a shameless club
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 12:10:04 GMT
I’m sorry Basel, I don’t buy it. When he came in relegation was not a foregone conclusion, we weren’t even in the bottom 4. Now after weeks of talking about standards, being elite, and a constant negative blame culture, we are in a position where a large proportion of the fan base are accepting that relegation was always inevitable, it’s all down to Ben Garner and Mike Jones, and Joey will fix it in the summer. I’m not swallowing any of it myself. The remit this season was clear and simple and he’s failing, but he’s coating his failure in blame and bull💩 Yes Blad,but you hope our manager goes to prison. FCs need structure and discipline . JB has chance of succeeding given a chance imo. 99.9% of managers would struggle with this squad. Changes to be made at the end of the season. Basel, you’re right about things I’ve posted on here. I don’t want him to go to prison, that is too personal and I take that back. I do agree the club needs changes to structure and discipline. I don’t for a second believe Barton is the man to do that and see no logic in the belief that he is. He began by saying he’d sort out the issues on the pitch with his coaches, kind of nonchalantly like it was easy. He hasn’t, he has laid out excuses why he hasn’t, and now he’s talking about rebuilding the entire club. In my view, it’s horse sh&t. I may be proven wrong. If he brings in Eddy Jennings and his in depth knowledge of golf can make a difference then hats off to him
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Post by Nobbygas on Mar 24, 2021 12:29:40 GMT
"The floggings will continue until moral improves" - I think that sums up my feelings at having to watch the last nine games that are coming up.
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Post by rowdenhill on Mar 24, 2021 13:16:58 GMT
Weal is a simpleton.
He is the central problem. A gerbil in a china shop.
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Post by basel on Mar 24, 2021 14:26:06 GMT
Yes Blad,but you hope our manager goes to prison. FCs need structure and discipline . JB has chance of succeeding given a chance imo. 99.9% of managers would struggle with this squad. Changes to be made at the end of the season. Basel, you’re right about things I’ve posted on here. I don’t want him to go to prison, that is too personal and I take that back. I do agree the club needs changes to structure and discipline. I don’t for a second believe Barton is the man to do that and see no logic in the belief that he is. He began by saying he’d sort out the issues on the pitch with his coaches, kind of nonchalantly like it was easy. He hasn’t, he has laid out excuses why he hasn’t, and now he’s talking about rebuilding the entire club. In my view, it’s horse sh&t. I may be proven wrong. If he brings in Eddy Jennings and his in depth knowledge of golf can make a difference then hats off to him Fair play Vlad.I've posted plenty of things I wished I had'nt. This FC does funny things to us.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 24, 2021 15:02:53 GMT
Weal is a simpleton. He is the central problem. A gerbil in a china shop. I’m pretty sure many know this to be the truth of it yet they seem to be unable to say it. He and his experts have torn apart a rebuilt team and taken us back to the worst of times. He could not stop being in the media after the promotions but has now gone to ground. He really should have made an effort to address us but his silence is deafening. The buck stops with him. Decision making has been beyond abysmal.
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