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Post by a more piratey game on Mar 23, 2021 20:56:51 GMT
He is going to be under a lot of pressure over the coming weeks so let's hope he really has learnt from his time there. "There was a battle to be fought right enough, but Barton wasn't up to it. For all his fighting talk, he wilted in weeks." Hmmm.... He sounds a complete bottler Or, as he might say himself, a bottleur That seems to be in line with your prognosis Pop wilt in progress, I think
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 21:04:18 GMT
All he had to be was no worse than Garner and Tisdale and we’d be safe. There was no miracle to be performed as the fanatics would lead you to believe.
He is worse than Garner and Tisdale. Bye bye Joey and all your chums
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 21:26:34 GMT
All he had to be was no worse than Garner and Tisdale and we’d be safe. There was no miracle to be performed as the fanatics would lead you to believe. He is worse than Garner and Tisdale. Bye bye Joey and all your chums Listening to the screams from the madhouse on Gaschat you would think a Garner was still in charge. How a relegation over 46 games can all be down to a man who only presided over ~10 of them (and had a better record with that team than his successors) just shows the sheer depth of the mental gymnastics being done to exonerate each poster’s “chosen man”.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 23:04:28 GMT
All he had to be was no worse than Garner and Tisdale and we’d be safe. There was no miracle to be performed as the fanatics would lead you to believe. He is worse than Garner and Tisdale. Bye bye Joey and all your chums Listening to the screams from the madhouse on Gaschat you would think a Garner was still in charge. How a relegation over 46 games can all be down to a man who only presided over ~10 of them (and had a better record with that team than his successors) just shows the sheer depth of the mental gymnastics being done to exonerate each poster’s “chosen man”. Was Barton actually interviewed tonight or did they just repost last weeks? He’s not really texting Mike Jones again is he?
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Post by Angas on Mar 23, 2021 23:17:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 23:36:20 GMT
Listening to the screams from the madhouse on Gaschat you would think a Garner was still in charge. How a relegation over 46 games can all be down to a man who only presided over ~10 of them (and had a better record with that team than his successors) just shows the sheer depth of the mental gymnastics being done to exonerate each poster’s “chosen man”. Was Barton actually interviewed tonight or did they just repost last weeks? He’s not really texting Mike Jones again is he? I hope he’s texting him about the nailed on penalty that Wimbledon weren’t given.
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Post by Peter Parker on Mar 24, 2021 7:16:04 GMT
Barton has given up on the season going by his interview.
Looks like he is planning on ripping everything up and bringing in all his own staff and hangers on like Jennings.
i know he is softly spoken in interviews, but nothing in his interview screamed any fight in trying to keep the team up
A DC or a GC interview would at least give you a they will die trying, no stone unturned to stay up even if you ultimately fail
JB seems like he wants nothing to do with the here and now and has to have ot all his way despite signing on for this
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Post by mangogas15 on Mar 24, 2021 7:26:50 GMT
Barton has given up on the season going by his interview. Looks like he is planning on ripping everything up and bringing in all his own staff and hangers on like Jennings. i know he is softly spoken in interviews, but nothing in his interview screamed any fight in trying to keep the team up A DC or a GC interview would at least give you a they will die trying, no stone unturned to stay up even if you ultimately fail JB seems like he wants nothing to do with the here and now and has to have ot all his way despite signing on for this Can you blame him
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Post by Peter Parker on Mar 24, 2021 7:39:43 GMT
Barton has given up on the season going by his interview. Looks like he is planning on ripping everything up and bringing in all his own staff and hangers on like Jennings. i know he is softly spoken in interviews, but nothing in his interview screamed any fight in trying to keep the team up A DC or a GC interview would at least give you a they will die trying, no stone unturned to stay up even if you ultimately fail JB seems like he wants nothing to do with the here and now and has to have ot all his way despite signing on for this Can you blame him Yes and no. He can only deal with what he has, but he signed up for that. I dont see the fight in JB that he is asking of his players
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Post by basel on Mar 24, 2021 7:49:02 GMT
It appears the JB era,at least the rebuild of Rovers,will begin at the end of season. It looks as if he has the backing and confidence of WAQ. So,at least we'll have a united leadership structure. TW won't be at Rovers much longer I reckon.
All this is good news because it's a mess at the moment.
It's an awful shame said rebuild will probably begin in the 4th tier,but as Paul Trollope use to say "we are where we are".
Hopefully WAQ will learn from his catastrophic mistakes.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 8:00:35 GMT
I think if he’d got this appointment right we wouldn’t need to rebuild in the 4th tier. On what basis is Barton the right man to rebuild us in the 4th tier?
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Post by basel on Mar 24, 2021 8:51:48 GMT
I think if he’d got this appointment right we wouldn’t need to rebuild in the 4th tier. On what basis is Barton the right man to rebuild us in the 4th tier? What appointment would of succeeded and kept us 3rd tier in the scenario we go down? 3 managers have seriously struggled with this squad. Who would of succeeded? JB at least seems to have full backing from WAQ.A solid and united leadership structure.I 'm not sure Tisdale enjoyed this and after a while into Garnets catastrophic run of results neither did he. Order.Discipline.All FCs need it,especially Rovers!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 8:54:48 GMT
Barton has given up on the season going by his interview. Looks like he is planning on ripping everything up and bringing in all his own staff and hangers on like Jennings. i know he is softly spoken in interviews, but nothing in his interview screamed any fight in trying to keep the team up A DC or a GC interview would at least give you a they will die trying, no stone unturned to stay up even if you ultimately fail JB seems like he wants nothing to do with the here and now and has to have ot all his way despite signing on for this Well, there were some interesting tidbits that almost got lost in the noise. “I’ve just come from a meeting with the owner and CEO...” where apparently he told them what was wrong at the club. He’s here for the “great reset” He’s got a plan but he can’t actually tell anyone what that is. —————————— When it got to the end it suddenly dawned on me that he had spent a good 10 minutes telling everyone that the problems were elsewhere: the referees, the club, the players. The only thing he said himself of how he was going to fix things was that he had a plan but he couldn’t actually discuss what the plan was. It was a complete load of flannel in my view, if Tisdale had come out with that s**te the general consensus would have been that he’s a chancer. Yet because of Barton’s Instagramability the love in seems stronger than ever on Gaschat. He’s done nowt so far to suggest to me that he will be one of the best managers in league two. He looks exactly what he was one paper when he joined us: a bloke who was lucky to have had a very good budget by league two standards at Fleetwood and now he’s had to take a job assembled on more meagre resources he’s struggling to get anything out of them.
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Post by basel on Mar 24, 2021 8:59:06 GMT
Barton has given up on the season going by his interview. Looks like he is planning on ripping everything up and bringing in all his own staff and hangers on like Jennings. i know he is softly spoken in interviews, but nothing in his interview screamed any fight in trying to keep the team up A DC or a GC interview would at least give you a they will die trying, no stone unturned to stay up even if you ultimately fail JB seems like he wants nothing to do with the here and now and has to have ot all his way despite signing on for this Well, there were some interesting tidbits that almost got lost in the noise. “I’ve just come from a meeting with the owner and CEO...” where apparently he told them what was wrong at the club. He’s here for the “great reset” He’s got a plan but he can’t actually tell anyone what that is. —————————— When it got to the end it suddenly dawned on me that he had spent a good 10 minutes telling everyone that the problems were elsewhere: the referees, the club, the players. The only thing he said himself of how he was going to fix things was that he had a plan but he couldn’t actually discuss what the plan was. It was a complete load of flannel in my view, if Tisdale had come out with that s***e the general consensus would have been that he’s a chancer. Yet because of Barton’s Instagramability the love in seems stronger than ever on Gaschat. He’s done nowt so far to suggest to me that he will be one of the best managers in league two. He looks exactly what he was one paper when he joined us: a bloke who was lucky to have had a very good budget by league two standards at Fleetwood and now he’s had to take a job assembled on more meagre resources he’s struggling to get anything out of them. He can't discuss certain things because plenty of players or staff he's hoping will keep us up, or help run the club, will be gone in the Summer.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 9:00:40 GMT
It appears the JB era,at least the rebuild of Rovers,will begin at the end of season. It looks as if he has the backing and confidence of WAQ. So,at least we'll have a united leadership structure. TW won't be at Rovers much longer I reckon. All this is good news because it's a mess at the moment. It's an awful shame said rebuild will probably begin in the 4th tier,but as Paul Trollope use to say "we are where we are". Hopefully WAQ will learn from his catastrophic mistakes. Just my opinion Bas but if he were to learn he would simply do a metaphorical sweeping of the desk knowing everything onto the floor and start again. New board team, new players, new manager. Have a proper hiring process for each, rather than hiring mates or footballing celebrities. You simply can’t trust a bloke to run anything competently when he makes hiring decisions based on hiring mates or on who gets the most Twitter likes. The only positive about relegation is that it will make that course of action pressing and urgent. If we stayed up by a single solitary point I can imagine Wael patting himself and Widdrington on the back and we would be in for more of the same next season.
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Post by basel on Mar 24, 2021 9:04:56 GMT
It appears the JB era,at least the rebuild of Rovers,will begin at the end of season. It looks as if he has the backing and confidence of WAQ. So,at least we'll have a united leadership structure. TW won't be at Rovers much longer I reckon. All this is good news because it's a mess at the moment. It's an awful shame said rebuild will probably begin in the 4th tier,but as Paul Trollope use to say "we are where we are". Hopefully WAQ will learn from his catastrophic mistakes. Just my opinion Bas but if he were to learn he would simply do a metaphorical sweeping of the desk knowing everything onto the floor and start again. New board team, new players, new manager. Have a proper hiring process for each, rather than hiring mates or footballing celebrities. You simply can’t trust a bloke to run anything competently when he makes hiring decisions based on hiring mates or on who gets the most Twitter likes. The only positive about relegation is that it will make that course of action pressing and urgent. If we stayed up by a single solitary point I can imagine Wael patting himself and Widdrington on the back and we would be in for more of the same next season. Much of what you suggest WM will be on WAQs and JBs list. JB may succeed.As Tisdale quite likely would of done. This squad is simply not good enough,a 4th tier squad. 99.9% of managers would struggle with them. JB has a plan.It is quite likely a very good one.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 9:05:16 GMT
Well, there were some interesting tidbits that almost got lost in the noise. “I’ve just come from a meeting with the owner and CEO...” where apparently he told them what was wrong at the club. He’s here for the “great reset” He’s got a plan but he can’t actually tell anyone what that is. —————————— When it got to the end it suddenly dawned on me that he had spent a good 10 minutes telling everyone that the problems were elsewhere: the referees, the club, the players. The only thing he said himself of how he was going to fix things was that he had a plan but he couldn’t actually discuss what the plan was. It was a complete load of flannel in my view, if Tisdale had come out with that s***e the general consensus would have been that he’s a chancer. Yet because of Barton’s Instagramability the love in seems stronger than ever on Gaschat. He’s done nowt so far to suggest to me that he will be one of the best managers in league two. He looks exactly what he was one paper when he joined us: a bloke who was lucky to have had a very good budget by league two standards at Fleetwood and now he’s had to take a job assembled on more meagre resources he’s struggling to get anything out of them. He can't discuss certain things because plenty of players or staff he's hoping will keep us up, or help run the club, will be gone in the Summer. Unless they are pretty dense they probably know that already don’t you think? Every one of those players will know that if the club gets relegated they will be fighting for their future. A good portion will already be contracted though so if they become persona non grata they are still guaranteed a wage for a year. What a nice position to be in, especially during the pandemic. The Teflon Prince must surely also be wondering if he’ll finally be asked to clear his desk soon, especially as Barton, the CEO and the owner appear to have been discussing the future behind his back. I wonder if there is an element of Barton himself not knowing where he will be at the start of next season?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 9:08:13 GMT
Just my opinion Bas but if he were to learn he would simply do a metaphorical sweeping of the desk knowing everything onto the floor and start again. New board team, new players, new manager. Have a proper hiring process for each, rather than hiring mates or footballing celebrities. You simply can’t trust a bloke to run anything competently when he makes hiring decisions based on hiring mates or on who gets the most Twitter likes. The only positive about relegation is that it will make that course of action pressing and urgent. If we stayed up by a single solitary point I can imagine Wael patting himself and Widdrington on the back and we would be in for more of the same next season. Much of what you suggest WM will be on WAQs and JBs list. JB may succeed.As Tisdale quite likely would of done. This squad is simply not good enough,a 4th tier squad. 99.9% of managers would struggle with them. JB has a plan.It is quite likely a very good one. I honestly don’t know what people have seen to make them think Barton will prove to be a good league two manager, especially with the sort of budget we will have. His audition hasn’t gone well so far with him struggling to get results against the dregs. People were behind Barton because they thought he would scare the team into getting results. If they are scared of him they aren’t showing it are they? He couldn’t get a tune out of a music box at the moment.
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Post by basel on Mar 24, 2021 9:13:16 GMT
He can't discuss certain things because plenty of players or staff he's hoping will keep us up, or help run the club, will be gone in the Summer. Unless they are pretty dense they probably know that already don’t you think? Every one of those players will know that if the club gets relegated they will be fighting for their future. A good portion will already be contracted though so if they become persona non grata they are still guaranteed a wage for a year. What a nice position to be in, especially during the pandemic. The Teflon Prince must surely also be wondering if he’ll finally be asked to clear his desk soon, especially as Barton, the CEO and the owner appear to have been discussing the future behind his back. I wonder if there is an element of Barton himself not knowing where he will be at the start of next season? So the player situation,attitude is not an easy one.WM,they ain't good enough.Collectively. T Widdrington will hopefully be gone soon. JB will have the possibility of 'doing time for Lizzie ',but it may not come to that and the chances are if it does it'll be 2 months or so. Football authorities might have their say. I think WAQ will back JB.Good. The Rovers need the united power structure.Vital.
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Post by basel on Mar 24, 2021 9:20:26 GMT
Much of what you suggest WM will be on WAQs and JBs list. JB may succeed.As Tisdale quite likely would of done. This squad is simply not good enough,a 4th tier squad. 99.9% of managers would struggle with them. JB has a plan.It is quite likely a very good one. I honestly don’t know what people have seen to make them think Barton will prove to be a good league two manager, especially with the sort of budget we will have. His audition hasn’t gone well so far with him struggling to get results against the dregs. People were behind Barton because they thought he would scare the team into getting results. If they are scared of him they aren’t showing it are they? He couldn’t get a tune out of a music box at the moment. He can't sign any players or get rid of any. He's stuck in the WAQ,Garner and Widdrington mess.Just as Tisdale was.
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