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Post by trymer on Mar 3, 2021 19:41:27 GMT
I'm aware, but what else is there to do? We're being played by the club here. They wouldn't have done this with supporters in the ground. The risk of him 'losing it' when someone, like me, tells him in no uncertain terms that I want him nowhere near my club would be high, and then the Rose Tinters who think it's a duty to support a doggy sausage if it's wearing the club shirt would wade in, and it would all kick off. Nobody is left working at the stadium now who are Rovers people, apart from our loyal shop staff and maybe also one or two in back offices, the rest are all recent recruits. It's no wonder that the people making decisions have no idea what the values of our club are. So let's get this straight Wael, and whoever else was involved in bringing this lout to my club, employing him represents your values, not mine. Not true, Tom Foley is still at the club. Please tell us before you confront Barton I would like to see that or do you mean 'someone like me' as in someone else ?
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Post by swissgas on Mar 3, 2021 19:42:04 GMT
I'm aware, but what else is there to do? We're being played by the club here. They wouldn't have done this with supporters in the ground. The risk of him 'losing it' when someone, like me, tells him in no uncertain terms that I want him nowhere near my club would be high, and then the Rose Tinters who think it's a duty to support a doggy sausage if it's wearing the club shirt would wade in, and it would all kick off. Nobody is left working at the stadium now who are Rovers people, apart from our loyal shop staff and maybe also one or two in back offices, the rest are all recent recruits. It's no wonder that the people making decisions have no idea what the values of our club are. So let's get this straight Wael, and whoever else was involved in bringing this lout to my club, employing him represents your values, not mine. "Being played" is the right way to put it. The link I posted on the "R word" thread included this ... "The 48-year-old father of four was educated at Westminster School and Boston University and stated that he had been a passionate football fan all of his life and that he was excited to be involved with the club. He also recognized the potential of the club and said that it was his family’s wish to maintain the tradition that Bristol Rovers have of being a family club." So the term "family club" is used as a positive when it suits but when it doesn't suit, because Joey Barton is appointed, we are encouraged to think and say that the "family club" never actually existed. This is not an isolated example, we've continually been played games with right from the 12 world class stadium experts through "Garnerball" and now beyond.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 19:50:28 GMT
We're being played by the club here. They wouldn't have done this with supporters in the ground. The risk of him 'losing it' when someone, like me, tells him in no uncertain terms that I want him nowhere near my club would be high, and then the Rose Tinters who think it's a duty to support a doggy sausage if it's wearing the club shirt would wade in, and it would all kick off. Nobody is left working at the stadium now who are Rovers people, apart from our loyal shop staff and maybe also one or two in back offices, the rest are all recent recruits. It's no wonder that the people making decisions have no idea what the values of our club are. So let's get this straight Wael, and whoever else was involved in bringing this lout to my club, employing him represents your values, not mine. Not true, Tom Foley is still at the club. Please tell us before you confront Barton I would like to see that or do you mean 'someone like me' as in someone else ? The Duke has history, ask Chris Jelf Tom Foley was our best performer against The Shrews. All passes found their man and he had more touches than anybody else.
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Post by swissgas on Mar 3, 2021 19:52:24 GMT
We're being played by the club here. They wouldn't have done this with supporters in the ground. The risk of him 'losing it' when someone, like me, tells him in no uncertain terms that I want him nowhere near my club would be high, and then the Rose Tinters who think it's a duty to support a doggy sausage if it's wearing the club shirt would wade in, and it would all kick off. Nobody is left working at the stadium now who are Rovers people, apart from our loyal shop staff and maybe also one or two in back offices, the rest are all recent recruits. It's no wonder that the people making decisions have no idea what the values of our club are. So let's get this straight Wael, and whoever else was involved in bringing this lout to my club, employing him represents your values, not mine. Not true, Tom Foley is still at the club. Please tell us before you confront Barton I would like to see that or do you mean 'someone like me' as in someone else ? We had a vote on it Trymer (I sourced the voting machines in the USA) and Pop Harris has been nominated to confront Barton.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 19:54:54 GMT
Not true, Tom Foley is still at the club. Please tell us before you confront Barton I would like to see that or do you mean 'someone like me' as in someone else ? We had a vote on it Trymer (I sourced the voting machines in the USA) and Pop Harris has been nominated to confront Barton. My wife banned me last year from all physical confrontation with angry men, I can't let her down, she owns half our assets. June will come around soon enough.
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Post by trymer on Mar 3, 2021 19:59:02 GMT
I think that if the owner has bullshi**ed Barton then he had better watch out,the least that he is likely to suffer is Barton telling everyone what is actually going on behind the scenes at Rovers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 20:00:03 GMT
We had a vote on it Trymer (I sourced the voting machines in the USA) and Pop Harris has been nominated to confront Barton. My wife banned me last year from all physical confrontation with angry men, I can't let her down, she owns half our assets. June will come around soon enough. Is June an angry Lady?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 20:00:52 GMT
I think that if the owner has bullshi**ed Barton then he had better watch out,the least that he is likely to suffer is Barton telling everyone what is actually going on behind the scenes at Rovers. I think Barton will live with it up until his court case at least. The last thing he wants to do is face the judge as an unemployed ex con.
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Post by shineongas on Mar 3, 2021 20:01:05 GMT
I don't post on here very often. I am a season ticket holder & so will be getting my £285 back for this season, and won't shell out whilst Barton is there. Post Covid I will walk up to Mangotsfield United. I am also a season ticket holder and so will voice my disgust at the appointment at the next general meeting that the president convenes. It won't change anything, but it'll make me feel better.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 20:01:37 GMT
My wife banned me last year from all physical confrontation with angry men, I can't let her down, she owns half our assets. June will come around soon enough. Is June an angry Lady? June Is Bustin Out All Over.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 20:03:05 GMT
Not true, Tom Foley is still at the club. Please tell us before you confront Barton I would like to see that or do you mean 'someone like me' as in someone else ? We had a vote on it Trymer (I sourced the voting machines in the USA) and Pop Harris has been nominated to confront Barton. Tell us what result you would like from this voting machine and we'll get it sorted, it's possible to win with more votes than there are constituents and go on to prove in court that all is above board.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 20:07:31 GMT
We're being played by the club here. They wouldn't have done this with supporters in the ground. The risk of him 'losing it' when someone, like me, tells him in no uncertain terms that I want him nowhere near my club would be high, and then the Rose Tinters who think it's a duty to support a doggy sausage if it's wearing the club shirt would wade in, and it would all kick off. Nobody is left working at the stadium now who are Rovers people, apart from our loyal shop staff and maybe also one or two in back offices, the rest are all recent recruits. It's no wonder that the people making decisions have no idea what the values of our club are. So let's get this straight Wael, and whoever else was involved in bringing this lout to my club, employing him represents your values, not mine. Not true, Tom Foley is still at the club. Please tell us before you confront Barton I would like to see that or do you mean 'someone like me' as in someone else ? As long as he doesn’t turn his back on him he should be fine
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 20:10:51 GMT
We're being played by the club here. They wouldn't have done this with supporters in the ground. The risk of him 'losing it' when someone, like me, tells him in no uncertain terms that I want him nowhere near my club would be high, and then the Rose Tinters who think it's a duty to support a doggy sausage if it's wearing the club shirt would wade in, and it would all kick off. Nobody is left working at the stadium now who are Rovers people, apart from our loyal shop staff and maybe also one or two in back offices, the rest are all recent recruits. It's no wonder that the people making decisions have no idea what the values of our club are. So let's get this straight Wael, and whoever else was involved in bringing this lout to my club, employing him represents your values, not mine. "Being played" is the right way to put it. The link I posted on the "R word" thread included this ... "The 48-year-old father of four was educated at Westminster School and Boston University and stated that he had been a passionate football fan all of his life and that he was excited to be involved with the club. He also recognized the potential of the club and said that it was his family’s wish to maintain the tradition that Bristol Rovers have of being a family club local embarrassment ." So the term "family club" is used as a positive when it suits but when it doesn't suit, because Joey Barton is appointed, we are encouraged to think and say that the "family club" never actually existed. This is not an isolated example, we've continually been played games with right from the 12 world class stadium experts through "Garnerball" and now beyond. He wasn’t wrong there!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 20:11:10 GMT
Not true, Tom Foley is still at the club. Please tell us before you confront Barton I would like to see that or do you mean 'someone like me' as in someone else ? As long as he doesn’t turn his back on him he should be fine Over 16 years of age. Check. Barton not allowed a gaggle of family members in the dug out with him. Check. Won't turn my back on The Scally. Check. I would be fine. Edit. This is humour. I do not promote or intend to glorify violence in any form whatsoever.
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Post by gasandproud on Mar 3, 2021 20:13:55 GMT
We're being played by the club here. They wouldn't have done this with supporters in the ground. The risk of him 'losing it' when someone, like me, tells him in no uncertain terms that I want him nowhere near my club would be high, and then the Rose Tinters who think it's a duty to support a doggy sausage if it's wearing the club shirt would wade in, and it would all kick off. Nobody is left working at the stadium now who are Rovers people, apart from our loyal shop staff and maybe also one or two in back offices, the rest are all recent recruits. It's no wonder that the people making decisions have no idea what the values of our club are. So let's get this straight Wael, and whoever else was involved in bringing this lout to my club, employing him represents your values, not mine. "Being played" is the right way to put it. The link I posted on the "R word" thread included this ... "The 48-year-old father of four was educated at Westminster School and Boston University and stated that he had been a passionate football fan all of his life and that he was excited to be involved with the club. He also recognized the potential of the club and said that it was his family’s wish to maintain the tradition that Bristol Rovers have of being a family club." So the term "family club" is used as a positive when it suits but when it doesn't suit, because Joey Barton is appointed, we are encouraged to think and say that the "family club" never actually existed. This is not an isolated example, we've continually been played games with right from the 12 world class stadium experts through "Garnerball" and now beyond. The thing is, gradually, with each addition to the pile of rubbish we have been fed, the continued spin on what is plain to see and with each bad decision taken, the clock ticks nearer the inevitable ending. With each new event a small number of previously positive / ambivalent supporters start to ask questions and start to come to the conclusion that things are not panning out well. It’s a simple game of numbers and at some point soon the owners quote from early in his tenure “I will stay as long as I am wanted” will be called into play. It’s very hard to take and it’s very frustrating to watch as a gas head! It’s no longer even about some knowing more than others.... you don’t need to be in the know to see what a laughing stock the whole situation is. It has gradually moved from just off the pitch events to on the pitch events as well which is probably the game changer. I don’t believe there are many genuine Gas Heads who take any comfort from saying things like I have said above, or indeed the vast majority of critical comments from others who share the same view. It’s just plain to see, right under the supporters noses. I admire those who can continue to see the positives in the current state the club is in, I genuinely do! But when people with the experience and history with the club are all saying the same things it rings massive alarm bells and raises res flags all over the place for me. It also reaffirms for me that my initial gut instinct and subsequent facts as I know them to be was spot on. I firmly believe it’s now about the state the club is in when crunch time comes rather than somehow there will be a happy ending.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 20:14:06 GMT
As long as he doesn’t turn his back on him he should be fine Over 16 years of age. Check. Barton not allowed a gaggle of family members in the dug out with him. Check. Won't turn my back on The Scally. Check. I would be fine. Edit. This is humour. I do not promote violence in any form whatsoever. I find it funny when people who claim Barton is a changed man in the next breath start giving it the “I dare you to say it to his face!” stuff. It’s almost like the mask slips and they reveal they are secretly enjoying having someone of his reputation as manager...
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Post by laughinggas on Mar 3, 2021 20:19:39 GMT
I need the second paragraph's meaning spelling out to me, if you'd be so kind. He has found the club is dysfunctional to an extent he had not expected and it showed in his demeanor last night You write that as a fact, is it?
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Post by trymer on Mar 3, 2021 20:22:57 GMT
As long as he doesn’t turn his back on him he should be fine Over 16 years of age. Check. Barton not allowed a gaggle of family members in the dug out with him. Check. Won't turn my back on The Scally. Check. I would be fine. Edit. This is humour. I do not promote or intend to glorify violence in any form whatsoever. I agree and I wouldnt like to see anyone confront or provoke Barton. I do think that shineongas makes a good point about telling the president what he thinks of the situation,whether thats about Barton or anything else.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 20:23:07 GMT
I find it funny when people who claim Barton is a changed man in the next breath start giving it the “I dare you to say it to his face!” stuff. It’s almost like the mask slips and they reveal they are secretly enjoying having someone of his reputation as manager... That's so right, apart from the 'almost', and I need it repeating. These mutually contradictory threats are so... now. I feel sick.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 20:28:12 GMT
"Being played" is the right way to put it. The link I posted on the "R word" thread included this ... "The 48-year-old father of four was educated at Westminster School and Boston University and stated that he had been a passionate football fan all of his life and that he was excited to be involved with the club. He also recognized the potential of the club and said that it was his family’s wish to maintain the tradition that Bristol Rovers have of being a family club." So the term "family club" is used as a positive when it suits but when it doesn't suit, because Joey Barton is appointed, we are encouraged to think and say that the "family club" never actually existed. This is not an isolated example, we've continually been played games with right from the 12 world class stadium experts through "Garnerball" and now beyond. The thing is, gradually, with each addition to the pile of rubbish we have been fed, the continued spin on what is plain to see and with each bad decision taken, the clock ticks nearer the inevitable ending. With each new event a small number of previously positive / ambivalent supporters start to ask questions and start to come to the conclusion that things are not panning out well. It’s a simple game of numbers and at some point soon the owners quote from early in his tenure “I will stay as long as I am wanted” will be called into play. It’s very hard to take and it’s very frustrating to watch as a gas head! It’s no longer even about some knowing more than others.... you don’t need to be in the know to see what a laughing stock the whole situation is. It has gradually moved from just off the pitch events to on the pitch events as well which is probably the game changer. I don’t believe there are many genuine Gas Heads who take any comfort from saying things like I have said above, or indeed the vast majority of critical comments from others who share the same view. It’s just plain to see, right under the supporters noses. I admire those who can continue to see the positives in the current state the club is in, I genuinely do! But when people with the experience and history with the club are all saying the same things it rings massive alarm bells and raises res flags all over the place for me. It also reaffirms for me that my initial gut instinct and subsequent facts as I know them to be was spot on. I firmly believe it’s now about the state the club is in when crunch time comes rather than somehow there will be a happy ending. Well, let’s be clear on one thing: Wael was using a figure of speech when he said he would be here as long as he is wanted. Just before he capitalised the debt things were at an all time low with regards to his standing and it seemed there was no fear of him walking away. Then he capitalised the debt and overnight became the darling of the fanbase again. I suspect he gets too much out of being involved in a football to walk away and especially when he has sunk so much money into it. It is, simply put, not rational to just walk away from such a significant investment of your money. He will want to recoup something and so it will need someone with deep pockets to call Wael’s bluff. Higgs might have been incompetent himself but the debts were not insurmountable under him. Some ~18 million spent later and there is going to be no-one willing to give Wael all his money back for a club in league one club with a tinpot stadium, rewarding him for his mistakes. Wael is the only game in town and so he can run the club like his own personal fiefdom with scant regard for the “traditions” of the club, or that some of it’s fans think of it as a family club of a higher moral standing than City if not a more fashionable one. We are both stuck with each other, it seems to me and I suspect that Wael is going to remain at the helm for some considerable time as a result. I just hope, at some point, he wakes up and brings in some outside help to sort the whole lot out.
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