towngas
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Post by towngas on Mar 3, 2021 11:23:18 GMT
Those people have lost their minds. 'A great number' of other people are appalled that this violent criminal 'is the face of Bristol Rovers'. But they can all go hang, right? I think this 'great number' of people who are appalled by the appointment of Barton and those that have 'lost their minds' being supportive of him being the face of BRFC, is a somewhat of an exaggeration. Social media does have that unfortunate effect of amplifying views to the extent that some people thing you either have to be in one camp or the other. If truth be told, I think the vast majority of football fans (not just Rovers) don't really care all that much who the manager is or who the owner is. They want to turn up on a Saturday, meet up with friends and hope to see the occasional good game of football. It’s difficult to say really because anyone who supports Barton is insane. Kind of makes any further discussion pointless. I would refer you to Thethinwhitedukes strap line.
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Post by towngas on Mar 3, 2021 11:24:44 GMT
Fully agree. I am in the 3rd group. There is nothing any of us can do about Barton being manager. We either support the club or we don’t. It’s our choice. I’m prepared to give him a chance and will continue to support the team. Whatever group we are in we should respect the group those others are in and debate the issue accordingly, sadly there doesn’t to be much in the way of understanding in that sense. This doesn’t represent my views. People are free to want Barton gone, I just don’t happen to agree with them, but what can you expect from a raving lunatic?
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 3, 2021 12:03:21 GMT
There’s too many childish and self righteous digs at our current manager. Who can honestly say they have never lost their temper or acted incorrectly? There’s only been one perfect person .. and that didn’t end well. Football is a passionate game.. it’s arguably been sadly lacking in Bristol Rovers teams recently. I think we should judge as we find... the past is the past... but we are back to where we were, before DC instilled pride and passion back into the players. WAQ’s evolution is not working, it was never going to. Too many factors, no direction and employing mates who employed mates. There seems to be an air of inevitability in this, I’m sad to say. Our support has acquiesced with this instead of asking questions and exerting pressure. To think, 5 years ago I allowed myself to dream.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 13:05:46 GMT
There’s too many childish and self righteous digs at our current manager. Who can honestly say they have never lost their temper or acted incorrectly? There’s only been one perfect person .. and that didn’t end well. Football is a passionate game.. it’s arguably been sadly lacking in Bristol Rovers teams recently. I think we should judge as we find... the past is the past... but we are back to where we were, before DC instilled pride and passion back into the players. WAQ’s evolution is not working, it was never going to. Too many factors, no direction and employing mates who employed mates. There seems to be an air of inevitability in this, I’m sad to say. Our support has acquiesced with this instead of asking questions and exerting pressure. To think, 5 years ago I allowed myself to dream. Not only you KP, when the family landed and were introduced as Middle Eastern Bankers I thought for a few days that we were on the same path as Man City and Chelsea. Looking back on it, it's embarrassing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 13:22:02 GMT
but we are back to where we were, before DC instilled pride and passion back into the players. WAQ’s evolution is not working, it was never going to. Too many factors, no direction and employing mates who employed mates. There seems to be an air of inevitability in this, I’m sad to say. Our support has acquiesced with this instead of asking questions and exerting pressure. To think, 5 years ago I allowed myself to dream. Not only you KP, when the family landed and were introduced as Middle Eastern Bankers I thought for a few days that we were on the same path as Man City and Chelsea. Looking back on it, it's embarrassing. Why would anyone with that sort of money buy a club like Rovers that needs a new stadium built for it in order to be able to compete? They could buy a club with a stadium in a one team city off the peg. It was fairly obvious from the start that all the hype was just people getting carried away when they heard “Jordanian bankers”
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 13:33:13 GMT
Not only you KP, when the family landed and were introduced as Middle Eastern Bankers I thought for a few days that we were on the same path as Man City and Chelsea. Looking back on it, it's embarrassing. Why would anyone with that sort of money buy a club like Rovers that needs a new stadium built for it in order to be able to compete? They could buy a club with a stadium in a one team city off the peg. It was fairly obvious from the start that all the hype was just people getting carried away when they heard “Jordanian bankers” There was a stadium plan which looked ready to go apart from being under-funded. Add to that, the incoming costs were negligible, and in football terms the debt was virtually nothing.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Mar 3, 2021 15:25:58 GMT
There’s too many childish and self righteous digs at our current manager. Who can honestly say they have never lost their temper or acted incorrectly? There’s only been one perfect person .. and that didn’t end well. Football is a passionate game.. it’s arguably been sadly lacking in Bristol Rovers teams recently. I think we should judge as we find... the past is the past... you are wrong. Simply wrong about football. you can see from all the abuse of players on Twitter how wrong and stupid fans are sometimes. Far too many think a rubbish performance is down to lack of passion and effort in players, lack of pride in wearing the shirt and love of the club. When I listen to this I think what a lot of ignorant bulls***. Increasingly in the modern era with so much science behind it, football starts out as two sides cancelling each other out and becomes a chess match of differentials. From the wonder of TV coverage of football now, you can see managers tweaking things in flat clueless performances and completely turning those performances around. When you are bettered you just look rubbish and like you didn’t care, so onto the Twitter, and after the tirade of abuse, the calling for a more passionate manager to fire them up. Football fans need to wise up to how it’s them and Twitter who are destroying football. Football fans need to retrain in how to watch the game, learn how to understand the game to follow it and comment properly. ”Football is a passionate game.. it’s arguably been sadly lacking in Bristol Rovers teams recently.” you are simply wrong.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Mar 3, 2021 15:34:32 GMT
There’s too many childish and self righteous digs at our current manager. Who can honestly say they have never lost their temper or acted incorrectly? There’s only been one perfect person .. and that didn’t end well. Football is a passionate game.. it’s arguably been sadly lacking in Bristol Rovers teams recently. I think we should judge as we find... the past is the past... but we are back to where we were, before DC instilled pride and passion back into the players. WAQ’s evolution is not working, it was never going to. Too many factors, no direction and employing mates who employed mates. There seems to be an air of inevitability in this, I’m sad to say. Our support has acquiesced with this instead of asking questions and exerting pressure. To think, 5 years ago I allowed myself to dream. I totally agree with you KP. That’s why I am beginning to think Duckys thread is wrong. Its just made the argument too focussed on Barton, and not the problems at our club. even if we stay up it’s sticky plaster over the real problem. The problem is the club isn’t being run well. The appointment of Tommy as the DOF. Is he any good at that role? Are we filling key roles properly, with short lists and proper questions at interviews, and looking over references? Those people who think there ain’t much wrong than crap couple of managers in Garner and Tisdale, and the most important thing is to stay up. They couldn’t be more out of touch. it’s worse than that, people need to wake up to how Wael, Starnes and Tommy are responsible for this relegation, and the whole slide down the pyramid and how into debt to Wael the club is going. How much are they paying perfectly legally to agents and to pay off appoints sacked after 90 days to create this relegation? Agents fee’s, signing on fee’s, wages, Whose money is it being wasted? how much of all the waste of money is Wael asking for to sell the club? We can’t be happy about this. We can’t be happy at the likes of Gasser and Townie. Especially when we laughed at the Gasser & Townie type Yeovil fans for supporting a poorly run club taking them to oblivion. maybe we should jump into the R word thread and discuss what relegation will mean and where the club should go, rather than just calling for Barton’s sacking.
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Post by swissgas on Mar 3, 2021 16:28:52 GMT
I listened to Joey's post match interview and thought "the officer should be asking more searching questions, he's almost helping to corroborate Joey's alibi".
But it's not really a laughing matter for anyone if, as it looked and sounded, the reality of BRFC 2021 has finally dawned on him.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 3, 2021 16:33:44 GMT
Why would anyone with that sort of money buy a club like Rovers that needs a new stadium built for it in order to be able to compete? They could buy a club with a stadium in a one team city off the peg. It was fairly obvious from the start that all the hype was just people getting carried away when they heard “Jordanian bankers” There was a stadium plan which looked ready to go apart from being under-funded. Add to that, the incoming costs were negligible, and in football terms the debt was virtually nothing. Add to that a certain owner running about saying how easy and cheap it was to buy a football club. I really did try to warn many who were posting ridiculous claims, such as we were the richest club in Bristol, it really is embarrassing. I think it’s time for me to find other entertainment as I won’t be watching L2 games, we will struggle in that division if we stay the same. We truly do deserve the title of tinpot. If honest, I’d get fully behind a Phoenix club but I don’t see us progressing, not under the current owner and his bunch of mates
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Post by rowdenhill on Mar 3, 2021 16:49:37 GMT
Weal is a simpleton.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Mar 3, 2021 17:12:03 GMT
but we are back to where we were, before DC instilled pride and passion back into the players. WAQ’s evolution is not working, it was never going to. Too many factors, no direction and employing mates who employed mates. There seems to be an air of inevitability in this, I’m sad to say. Our support has acquiesced with this instead of asking questions and exerting pressure. To think, 5 years ago I allowed myself to dream. ... maybe we should jump into the R word thread and discuss what relegation will mean and where the club should go, rather than just calling for Barton’s sacking. As Barton's sacking isn't going to come just be people typing on an internet forum, I agree with your last point o mighty emperor!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 18:07:50 GMT
I listened to Joey's post match interview and thought "the officer should be asking more searching questions, he's almost helping to corroborate Joey's alibi". But it's not really a laughing matter for anyone if, as it looked and sounded, the reality of BRFC 2021 has finally dawned on him. You have to wonder at the hubris, both Tisdale and Barton spoke pretty words about how they would wake up the sleeping giant and shortly afterwards realised the size of the task. Did they not do their homework? Too cocky? Or did they find the conditions they have to work in we’re not how it was sold to them?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 18:31:05 GMT
I listened to Joey's post match interview and thought "the officer should be asking more searching questions, he's almost helping to corroborate Joey's alibi". But it's not really a laughing matter for anyone if, as it looked and sounded, the reality of BRFC 2021 has finally dawned on him. I need the second paragraph's meaning spelling out to me, if you'd be so kind.
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Mar 3, 2021 18:41:01 GMT
Felt sorry for Mr Wael when a few years back (after our new Chairman,Steve Hamer, had said after the failed Sainsbury's appeal,'The finance isn't a problem)'when asked where the new stadium was he replied that we had new hand driers in the gents.He was being serious as well. I do despair over the lack of any apparent progress on that front with not even one new stand to replace the dreadful tents firmly putting us at 92 in the ground facilities league. I asked once why we didn't build a proper stand as was told that it would be a waste of money due to the new stadium being built.That was 20 years ago.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 18:51:14 GMT
I listened to Joey's post match interview and thought "the officer should be asking more searching questions, he's almost helping to corroborate Joey's alibi". But it's not really a laughing matter for anyone if, as it looked and sounded, the reality of BRFC 2021 has finally dawned on him. I wonder if he cares one iota or if having this job is just part of his presentation for his court defence? That's a question, not a statement or accusation.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 18:52:21 GMT
As Barton's sacking isn't going to come just be people typing on an internet forum... I'm aware, but what else is there to do?
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Post by swissgas on Mar 3, 2021 19:11:48 GMT
I listened to Joey's post match interview and thought "the officer should be asking more searching questions, he's almost helping to corroborate Joey's alibi". But it's not really a laughing matter for anyone if, as it looked and sounded, the reality of BRFC 2021 has finally dawned on him. I need the second paragraph's meaning spelling out to me, if you'd be so kind. He has found the club is dysfunctional to an extent he had not expected and it showed in his demeanor last night
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Post by swissgas on Mar 3, 2021 19:17:53 GMT
Felt sorry for Mr Wael when a few years back (after our new Chairman,Steve Hamer, had said after the failed Sainsbury's appeal,'The finance isn't a problem)'when asked where the new stadium was he replied that we had new hand driers in the gents.He was being serious as well. I do despair over the lack of any apparent progress on that front with not even one new stand to replace the dreadful tents firmly putting us at 92 in the ground facilities league. I asked once why we didn't build a proper stand as was told that it would be a waste of money due to the new stadium being built.That was 20 years ago. These things take time Staffordshire. For example, that new nuclear reprocessing plant in Colyton won't be up and running for at least two years
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 19:19:34 GMT
As Barton's sacking isn't going to come just be people typing on an internet forum... I'm aware, but what else is there to do? We're being played by the club here. They wouldn't have done this with supporters in the ground. The risk of him 'losing it' when someone, like me, tells him in no uncertain terms that I want him nowhere near my club would be high, and then the Rose Tinters who think it's a duty to support a doggy sausage if it's wearing the club shirt would wade in, and it would all kick off. Nobody is left working at the stadium now who are Rovers people, apart from our loyal shop staff and maybe also one or two in back offices, the rest are all recent recruits. It's no wonder that the people making decisions have no idea what the values of our club are. So let's get this straight Wael, and whoever else was involved in bringing this lout to my club, employing him represents your values, not mine.
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