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Post by Angas on Jan 9, 2024 19:51:11 GMT
Joey B***** facing Government and legal action over ‘dangerous’ social media posts Oh, he'll love that. He's starting to rival Trump for most column inches.
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Post by bluetornados on Jan 9, 2024 19:52:17 GMT
Joey B***** facing Government and legal action over ‘dangerous’ social media posts..by Ben Rumsby.Joey B***** is facing both Government and legal action over his “dangerous” social media posts. Stuart Andrew, the sports minister, has announced he would “look at” what could be done about B*****’s rants about women, one of whom has now instructed lawyers over “defamatory” abuse directed at her. The past month has seen B***** embark on a series of increasingly personal attacks on X, formerly Twitter, primarily directed at women working in football. Those culminated last week in posts comparing ITV pundits Eni Aluko and Lucy Ward to Fred and Rose West, two of Britain’s worst serial killers. That prompted a statement from the broadcaster denouncing B*****, who responded by doubling down on his remarks. The Government has now intervened after Andrew condemned B***** in Parliament on Tuesday. “These are dangerous comments that open the floodgates for abuse and that’s not acceptable,” Andrew said, before revealing he would “look at” what powers were available to Ofcom to tackle B*****’s abuse under the Government’s new Online Safety Bill. He also said he would “happily” raise the matter with social media companies to ask what action, if any, they were taking against B*****. Andrew’s pledge came minutes after B***** was contacted on social media by a lawyer representing a woman he branded a “grifter”. B***** became embroiled in a row with Louise Raw, a television and radio historian and writer, last week after she criticised him for comments he made about the involvement of his brother, Michael, in the racist murder of the black teenager Anthony Walker. The spat prompted B***** to accuse her of being a “pure grifter” over a GoFundMe campaign she fronted last year to bring legal action against Jeremy Clarkson for an article the presenter wrote stating the Duchess of Sussex should be “made to parade naked through the streets”. B*****’s posts about Raw have now seen him contacted by Lawrence Davies, the chief executive of Equal Justice, who replied on X: “Dear Mr B***** We act for Louise Raw. Your tweets about her are certainly defamatory and we will be writing to you formally in that regard later this week. Please provide an address for service, or your lawyers contact details. Please desist from further defamatory comment. “I can confirm that all monies raised on GFM were transferred to my firm No monies were retained by my client No monies were used by her, other than for the purposes of obtaining legal advice Your allegation of grifting by her is entirely untrue and damages her reputation.” B***** replied: “You can send it to my personal email address, Look forward to hearing from you.”
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Post by oldie on Jan 9, 2024 23:20:25 GMT
Joey B***** facing Government and legal action over ‘dangerous’ social media posts hang him !!... preferably not on a Rovers match day.we need to be focused on the game. No, the opposite. Invite him to a panel discussion and humiliate him, in public.
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Post by chelt_gas on Jan 10, 2024 3:45:18 GMT
I don't have any hatred for Barton due to his political views or social observations. Some seem reasonable for debating purposes but they are either articulated wrongly or miscontrued by both Barton and the media. Let him continue and the majority will soon get bored of his intentional provocation.
His views are more common that people like to admit - there are countless times when a pub/work/family conversation will desend into the non-PC realms. Although most of the time these people are just repeating someone elses views that ignited attention (albeit for the wrong reason).
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Jan 17, 2024 10:22:07 GMT
I don't have any hatred for B***** due to his political views or social observations. Some seem reasonable for debating purposes but they are either articulated wrongly or miscontrued by both B***** and the media. Let him continue and the majority will soon get bored of his intentional provocation. His views are more common that people like to admit - there are countless times when a pub/work/family conversation will desend into the non-PC realms. Although most of the time these people are just repeating someone elses views that ignited attention (albeit for the wrong reason). Joey Barton insults left Eni Aluko 'scared to go out' - and former Lioness says she's 'considering legal action' Barton compared Aluko and fellow ITV pundit Lucy Ward to serial killers Fred and Rose West, as well as dictators Joseph Stalin and Pol Pot, after an FA Cup tie earlier this month. news.sky.com/story/joey-barton-insults-left-eni-aluko-scared-to-go-out-and-former-lioness-says-shes-considering-legal-action-13049972
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 17, 2024 11:16:34 GMT
"...Joey B***** insults left Eni Aluko 'scared to go out' - and former Lioness says she's 'considering legal action'..."
Yea tbf, I always thought Eni's knockers were worth talking about.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jan 17, 2024 12:45:58 GMT
I don't have any hatred for B***** due to his political views or social observations. Some seem reasonable for debating purposes but they are either articulated wrongly or miscontrued by both B***** and the media. Let him continue and the majority will soon get bored of his intentional provocation. His views are more common that people like to admit - there are countless times when a pub/work/family conversation will desend into the non-PC realms. Although most of the time these people are just repeating someone elses views that ignited attention (albeit for the wrong reason). Joey B***** insults left Eni Aluko 'scared to go out' - and former Lioness says she's 'considering legal action' B***** compared Aluko and fellow ITV pundit Lucy Ward to serial killers Fred and Rose West, as well as dictators Joseph Stalin and Pol Pot, after an FA Cup tie earlier this month. news.sky.com/story/joey-B*****-insults-left-eni-aluko-scared-to-go-out-and-former-lioness-says-shes-considering-legal-action-13049972I felt compelled to leave a comment. The guy is incapable of staying out of the limelight and actively courts it. I am not a physician but have suffered with MH since late teens and so I think I can recognise the traits of this, in him.
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Post by a more piratey game on Jan 19, 2024 18:02:51 GMT
I read this in the paper today....
'Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) absolutely is a mental illness, and a very serious one at that. People who suffer from it tend to have an over-inflated sense of self-importance coupled with a lack of empathy, and a great need for attention. Some researchers believe that those who suffer from NPD may have a lower ability than others to acknowledge their issues, which is why so few people are actually diagnosed with it in real life.
People with NPD use those close to them to further their own needs; they must always have a source of ‘narcissistic supply’, and when it runs out, or they sense it is threatened, they tend to experience ‘narcissistic collapse’ – put simply, a sort of breakdown that can be characterised by rage, gaslighting and the silent treatment.'
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Post by syg on Jan 19, 2024 20:19:19 GMT
Can't see how making a dumb comparison on social media can result in a legal case
Spend 10 secs on twitter/x and you will see far worse
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Post by davehuddscousin on Jan 21, 2024 13:20:17 GMT
This article from The Athletic is interesting: theathletic.com/5205522/2024/01/17/joey-barton-toxic-football/?source=weeklyemail&campaign=602288How Joey Barton became too toxic for football Philip Buckingham Jan 17, 2024 491 There is an EFL club that keeps a database designed to monitor the progress of its future head coaches. It is succession planning, a means of identifying the next best candidate before the search is even required to begin. Individuals are marked and categorised; ones to watch and others to forget. A new tab has recently been created beneath those head coaches who are deemed unworthy of consideration, though. It is labelled “Joey Barton”. Do not touch. The anecdote is relayed after one senior figure at the club was asked last week if Barton, sacked as manager of Bristol Rovers in October, would ever be considered for one of their managerial vacancies. “Not a chance,” they say. Barton is unlikely to care. Not publicly, at least. After his playing career was held back by acts of violence and self-sabotage, the 41-year-old is now setting fire to his prospects of finding further opportunities as a football manager. An industry that has provided Barton with no end of second chances – after prison, after an 18-month gambling ban and after multiple arrests – is finally seeing its patience expire thanks to a series of furious social media posts against female pundits and commentators. They seem to have closed off any possible return to the game he claims to be defending. There might be other plans, such as his Common Sense show due to launch on Meta next month, but management was what Barton had considered his calling. As recently as October, he was studying for his UEFA Pro Licence. “I always wanted to be a footballer but I knew I’d be even better as a coach,” he once said.
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Post by JeffNZ on Jan 21, 2024 18:45:21 GMT
He'll land a job at Budget Ballers FC,' where he will be the director of football and head of controversy, ensuring the obscure little club is thrust into the spotlight for all the wrong reasons.
Oh hang on... been there done that.
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Jan 21, 2024 19:02:41 GMT
Wonder if Barton Rovers would have him (not that they deserve such a fate)? After all that’s what he tried to turn us into.
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Post by bondigas on Jan 21, 2024 20:47:20 GMT
Does anyone ever stop and think what qualities Barton had and could offer our club as manager. Two people gave him the opportunity to manage an EFL football club, one is now serving a 13 year prison sentence for fraud and the other has blown £30 million of hard earned family money on his train set and had to find supporting funds from people who now probably regret the opportunity they were presented to keep the model railway running.
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Post by Delsy on Jan 22, 2024 2:38:30 GMT
With the latter not exactly offering up much hope or incentive for the current incumbent eh ?
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Post by a more piratey game on Jan 22, 2024 19:52:57 GMT
Does anyone ever stop and think what qualities B***** had and could offer our club as manager. Two people gave him the opportunity to manage an EFL football club, one is now serving a 13 year prison sentence for fraud and the other has blown £30 million of hard earned family money on his train set and had to find supporting funds from people who now probably regret the opportunity they were presented to keep the model railway running. the last half seems mean-spirited to me he's put his money where his mouth is, for modest reward, and given it his best shot in a very difficult business. And been approximately as successful as his predecessors over many years I think, and maybe he thinks now, that he made a mistake with the Barton thing, but I see no reason to be demeaning we'd probably be in much bigger poo if he, and his family, hadn't done their bit
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Jan 22, 2024 20:12:33 GMT
Does anyone ever stop and think what qualities B***** had and could offer our club as manager. Two people gave him the opportunity to manage an EFL football club, one is now serving a 13 year prison sentence for fraud and the other has blown £30 million of hard earned family money on his train set and had to find supporting funds from people who now probably regret the opportunity they were presented to keep the model railway running. the last half seems mean-spirited to me he's put his money where his mouth is, for modest reward, and given it his best shot in a very difficult business. And been approximately as successful as his predecessors over many years I think, and maybe he thinks now, that he made a mistake with the B***** thing, but I see no reason to be demeaning we'd probably be in much bigger poo if he, and his family, hadn't done their bit True but he would have almost certainly have spent his money more wisely if he had not surrounded himself with sycophants and put all his eggs in the Poundland Pep basket. Poor poor decision maker who could and should have been the white knight we so desperately need if he had sought the right counsel
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Post by swissgas on Jan 22, 2024 20:53:28 GMT
Does anyone ever stop and think what qualities B***** had and could offer our club as manager. Two people gave him the opportunity to manage an EFL football club, one is now serving a 13 year prison sentence for fraud and the other has blown £30 million of hard earned family money on his train set and had to find supporting funds from people who now probably regret the opportunity they were presented to keep the model railway running. the last half seems mean-spirited to me he's put his money where his mouth is, for modest reward, and given it his best shot in a very difficult business. And been approximately as successful as his predecessors over many years I think, and maybe he thinks now, that he made a mistake with the B***** thing, but I see no reason to be demeaning we'd probably be in much bigger poo if he, and his family, hadn't done their bit That doesn’t stack up ampg. We were losing £ 1 million pa now it’s £ 4 million. We had a cost base of £ 5 million pa now it’s £ 11 million. We had secured debts of £ 6 million now it’s £ 12 million. We kid ourselves the training ground and South stand are assets but in strictly financial terms they have added considerably to our liabilities. Although Rovers should get away from the culture of always blaming someone else for our misfortunes it’s a mistake to try to absolve Wael of responsibility for the situation we are in now just because we think he’s a nice chap. The Al- Saeeds have been left with a sh*t show As far as I can tell they have put about £ 7 million into the club ( £6 million BRFC and £1 million 1883 Ltd) which roughly equates to two years projected cash requirements as stipulated by EFL ownership rules. The question we should be asking is whether that is the limit of their investment or whether they will be willing and able to put more in when it runs out ?
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Post by a more piratey game on Jan 22, 2024 20:59:01 GMT
the last half seems mean-spirited to me he's put his money where his mouth is, for modest reward, and given it his best shot in a very difficult business. And been approximately as successful as his predecessors over many years I think, and maybe he thinks now, that he made a mistake with the B***** thing, but I see no reason to be demeaning we'd probably be in much bigger poo if he, and his family, hadn't done their bit That doesn’t stack up ampg. We were losing £ 1 million pa now it’s £ 4 million. We had a cost base of £ 5 million pa now it’s £ 11 million. We had secured debts of £ 6 million now it’s £ 12 million. We kid ourselves the training ground and South stand are assets but in strictly financial terms they have added considerably to our liabilities. Although Rovers should get away from the culture of always blaming someone else for our misfortunes it’s a mistake to try to absolve Wael of responsibility for the situation we are in now just because we think he’s a nice chap. The Al- Saeeds have been left with a sh*t show As far as I can tell they have put about £ 7 million into the club ( £6 million BRFC and £1 million 1883 Ltd) which roughly equates to two years projected cash requirements as stipulated by EFL ownership rules. The question we should be asking is whether that is the limit of their investment or whether they will be willing and able to put more in when it runs out ? Who is trying to absolve him of responsibility? I don't think you'll find that in my post I think you've used my post as a reason to say things that you want to say, rather than respond to what I put. Like a politician being interviewed
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Post by swissgas on Jan 22, 2024 21:19:02 GMT
That doesn’t stack up ampg. We were losing £ 1 million pa now it’s £ 4 million. We had a cost base of £ 5 million pa now it’s £ 11 million. We had secured debts of £ 6 million now it’s £ 12 million. We kid ourselves the training ground and South stand are assets but in strictly financial terms they have added considerably to our liabilities. Although Rovers should get away from the culture of always blaming someone else for our misfortunes it’s a mistake to try to absolve Wael of responsibility for the situation we are in now just because we think he’s a nice chap. The Al- Saeeds have been left with a sh*t show As far as I can tell they have put about £ 7 million into the club ( £6 million BRFC and £1 million 1883 Ltd) which roughly equates to two years projected cash requirements as stipulated by EFL ownership rules. The question we should be asking is whether that is the limit of their investment or whether they will be willing and able to put more in when it runs out ? Who is trying to absolve him of responsibility? I don't think you'll find that in my post I think you've used my post as a reason to say things that you want to say, rather than respond to what I put. Like a politician being interviewed You said you thought we’d be in much bigger poo if Wael and his family hadn’t done their bit. I’ve explained why I believe “ Wael’s bit” has put us in a much worse position than we were in before. And the danger for Rovers is that as the Al-Saeed ownership traverses choppy waters there will be those who pop up and say “ it wasn’t like this in Wael’s time” and express the view that Wael’s legacy is being spoiled. They’ll do that because they’ve bought into the notion that everything was going very well and the Al-Saeeds were only brought in for extra investment and for their “ real estate expertise”. You’ll have noticed I’m not posting much at the moment because there isn’t a lot to discuss on the business side till the owners reveal their plans in more detail. But I will respond when the last eight years are portrayed as having been relatively successful or at least no worse than what went before. Because the figures show that Rovers now have a financial millstone around our neck which will be very difficult to shake off.
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Post by a more piratey game on Jan 22, 2024 22:14:43 GMT
Who is trying to absolve him of responsibility? I don't think you'll find that in my post I think you've used my post as a reason to say things that you want to say, rather than respond to what I put. Like a politician being interviewed You said you thought we’d be in much bigger poo if Wael and his family hadn’t done their bit. I’ve explained why I believe “ Wael’s bit” has put us in a much worse position than we were in before. And the danger for Rovers is that as the Al-Saeed ownership traverses choppy waters there will be those who pop up and say “ it wasn’t like this in Wael’s time” and express the view that Wael’s legacy is being spoiled. They’ll do that because they’ve bought into the notion that everything was going very well and the Al-Saeeds were only brought in for extra investment and for their “ real estate expertise”. You’ll have noticed I’m not posting much at the moment because there isn’t a lot to discuss on the business side till the owners reveal their plans in more detail. But I will respond when the last eight years are portrayed as having been relatively successful or at least no worse than what went before. Because the figures show that Rovers now have a financial millstone around our neck which will be very difficult to shake off. Well, you didn't phrase it like that the first time around Regarding the 'which poo is bigger' question, which does follow logically, my recollection is that Nick Higgs was getting desperate, and was unwilling to put more in. So sans the AQs we might have gone bust, or down and down But they've got us a training ground, new stand and new owners, as well as larger debts and operating costs. Which, I think, is what many owners over history have achieved in football. Though i hope that, like us, they've enjoyed the ride We're sort of where we were, with bigger assets and debts. But the size of our hopes hasn't really changed And I suspect that, whatever his flaws, Wael is a nice chap. And I think most of us prefer to be in a club with nice chaps
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