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Post by oldie on May 17, 2023 8:55:14 GMT
Who's getting ate up about anything, having a point of view on JB doesn't mean you're ate about it. As things stand I personally can't see Wael appointing anybody any better. If we do manage to construct the new stand this summer and then fill it next season JB will have achieved something no other recent manager has managed. Hang on a movement, are you implying that if/when the new stand goes up, that it will be all because of Barton ? We have had the club lower the amount of people in stands when it was it was not a necessity but based on advice. Marketing has been cleverly managed, so that it looks like we are close to or selling out every match and it has been proven that we are for sale but i will get back to my point, drop you think the new stand will be because of Barton and would not have been built, without him, please ? Good question
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Post by baselswh on May 17, 2023 8:58:46 GMT
Hang on a movement, are you implying that if/when the new stand goes up, that it will be all because of Barton ? We have had the club lower the amount of people in stands when it was it was not a necessity but based on advice. Marketing has been cleverly managed, so that it looks like we are close to or selling out every match and it has been proven that we are for sale but i will get back to my point, drop you think the new stand will be because of Barton and would not have been built, without him, please ? Good question Good work encourages good things to happen. We all know that.
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 17, 2023 9:06:21 GMT
Good work encourages good things to happen. We all know that. That stand has been an embarrassment and not fit for purpose ever since it was first put in place and i see no correlation with a new one being put up, with Barton, not unless he paid for it, as for good work ? If 17th in league 1 and a diabolically poor home record if good work then i dread to think of what bad work would be. It was obvious, for many years, that the thing needing taking down and someone better put in its place. Not even going to get into the losses and loans but good work, it is not, not in my opinion anyway. It has been a necessity and for a very long time. If anyone then it should be the owner who takes any plaudits and not the manager.
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Post by oldie on May 17, 2023 9:06:57 GMT
Other clichés are available
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Post by baselswh on May 17, 2023 9:28:24 GMT
When a fc is pulling in the same direction,projects like a new South Stand can happen.
WAQ and JB have created a team,which is abit of luck as football is a team game.
Oh and season tickets are soon to be on general sale I think.
In the scenario any of the main culprits on this useless thread buy one and carry on the way they do on their keyboard, well i pity the poor b'stards sat within listening range.
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 17, 2023 10:30:15 GMT
When a fc is pulling in the same direction,projects like a new South Stand can happen. WAQ and JB have created a team,which is abit of luck as football is a team game. Oh and season tickets are soon to be on general sale I think. In the scenario any of the main culprits on this useless thread buy one and carry on the way they do on their keyboard, well i pity the poor b*****ds sat within listening range. So it doesn’t matter that it should have happened and a long time ago, i guess. It doesn’t matter that it’s borrowed money and that it only took our current owner 7 years to sort and with him saying finance is not a problem. I think you will find the abuse is the other way around, dare to question our Joey and you’ll be subject to abuse, not the other way around.
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Post by Peter Parker on May 17, 2023 10:41:58 GMT
only posting the news
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Post by Bath Gas on May 17, 2023 10:45:34 GMT
Last week I posted about "emotion" being one of the factors on which we base our opinions and Rovers fans seem to be blessed with more than our fair share of it as I can testify. The problem is balancing emotion with rationality and many Gasheads seem to have formed such an emotional attachment to JB that, although they know his track record, they have convinced themselves "this time it will be different". But in the cold light of day, if we want the club to be successful, surely we have to take some of the emotion out of it and use rational thinking to decide how to make Rovers a successful football club ? I guess it is fair to say that those who have distanced themselves from the Club have taken out the emotional bond they had with it. So instead of defending the manager to the hilt, they take a bit more of an objective stance. Constructive criticism (well some of it just criticism, admittedly) causes the Barton Fanboys to go into meltdown. "cos, if you aren't with us, you're against us". Once you have nailed your colours to the mast, it doesn't matter what evidence is presented to you, or what gobsh!tery comes out of his mouth, you double down on your support. Because that's what "real" supporters do. Proof that we've entered the silly season! It can equally be said that those who disapprove of his appointment double down on their critiicism, and seem to have an obsession with using the words "Messiah" and "cult" in connection with Mrs Barton. Barton has made some mistakes, he's still learning his trade so some of it is to be expected, he certainly did no favours to Belly or Balcombe in the way things were handled.
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Post by Bath Gas on May 17, 2023 10:48:06 GMT
unconscionable. Not every day I learn a new word. Thank heavens we have the psuedo intellectuals to educate us!
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Post by Bath Gas on May 17, 2023 10:49:45 GMT
Who's getting ate up about anything, having a point of view on JB doesn't mean you're ate about it. As things stand I personally can't see Wael appointing anybody any better. If we do manage to construct the new stand this summer and then fill it next season JB will have achieved something no other recent manager has managed. Hang on a movement, are you implying that if/when the new stand goes up, that it will be all because of Barton ? We have had the club lower the amount of people in stands when it was it was not a necessity but based on advice. Marketing has been cleverly managed, so that it looks like we are close to or selling out every match and it has been proven that we are for sale but i will get back to my point, do you think the new stand will be because of Barton and would not have been built, without him, please ? I believe that JB is currently at The Mem, singly assembling the structure with his bare hands.
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Post by Bath Gas on May 17, 2023 10:58:22 GMT
This "but it's hard to understand why they get so ate up about this opinion being expressed unless the tangible evidence from the financial accounts and the league table position is now causing doubts about the direction in which JB is taking us. Throughout his career he's been very consistent in talking himself up and then letting his backers down. It happened again at Fleetwood Town and I can't see any reason to believe the trend will be reversed at Rovers. " I suspect you may have identified the nerve there Swiss🤔 Who knew that Swiss was a Neurosurgeon as well as a top notch Accountant! A certain Mr Mourinho has always been good at talking himself up, and doesn't always live up to his own selp promotion. He's the bloke who let Salah and De Bruyne go, and, of course, a certain Mr Clough was also known for his modesty, even before he had success. Whilst I'm not expecting Barton to ever reach those giddy heights, I think that it's too early in his career to hang a label on him.
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Post by Bath Gas on May 17, 2023 10:59:31 GMT
Bring back Martyn Staynes and Tommy Widdrington - the halycon days at Rovers. At least Tom Gorringe is doing a good job, even if he is a bit strange As yet, I haven't personally encountered the strangeness of TG, apart from the fact that he choses to live in Wales.
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Post by Bath Gas on May 17, 2023 11:02:15 GMT
After crimes against football Coughlan, PlayStation Garner and fashion Guru Tisdale it’s a relief that we got a real football nut in JB albeit he’s still a work in progress. And so what that he’s marmite , so were Clough and Mourinho if you got it, then you got it, after all, if Harry Rednapp thinks he can go all the way who am I to disagree. He’s still learning his trade , made some mistakes last season, but if he could mature into the manager he could be, and then drop us off in the Championship on his way to the top, then that will do nicely. UTG If you are talking about crimes, let us look at the evidence... Where were we when Coughlan left? Where are we now? What % did the attendances increase when we were being treated to Coughlan ball?
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Post by bloogas on May 17, 2023 11:27:10 GMT
unconscionable. Not every day I learn a new word. Thank heavens we have the psuedo intellectuals to educate us! Plenty of them about.
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Post by bloogas on May 17, 2023 11:35:24 GMT
When a fc is pulling in the same direction,projects like a new South Stand can happen. WAQ and JB have created a team,which is abit of luck as football is a team game. Oh and season tickets are soon to be on general sale I think. In the scenario any of the main culprits on this useless thread buy one and carry on the way they do on their keyboard, well i pity the poor b*****ds sat within listening range. So it doesn’t matter that it should have happened and a long time ago, i guess. It doesn’t matter that it’s borrowed money and that it only took our current owner 7 years to sort and with him saying finance is not a problem. I think you will find the abuse is the other way around, dare to question our Joey and you’ll be subject to abuse, not the other way around. Just for the record, 7 years of which, off the top of my head, 1 and a half were without fans attending and the owner had to carry the club. A fact he possibly didn't know when he made the comment.
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Post by Cheshiregas on May 17, 2023 11:59:06 GMT
If you are talking about crimes, let us look at the evidence... Where were we when Coughlan left? Where are we now? What % did the attendances increase when we were being treated to Coughlan ball? I'm not sure whether they did Bath, which of course is the point of your question. However it reminds me of the fans at Stoke with Pulis when he got them into the top league and then complained about the football they played. And with the fans at West Ham when Allardyce got them to their highest point for years and then they wanted rid because he didn't play the 'West Ham way' Both teams fell after those managers left. Are you saying that you would rather take Barton's football and 17th rather than Coughlan's football and 3rd?
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Post by toteend3 on May 17, 2023 12:17:32 GMT
If you are talking about crimes, let us look at the evidence... Where were we when Coughlan left? Where are we now? And what was Coughlan's budget and how many coaches did he surround himself with? If we are to make a like for like comparison Humm - How many coaches - Well just the one parked in front of the goal UTG
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Post by baselswh on May 17, 2023 12:24:20 GMT
It's quite ironic because I imagine at least some of those using GC as a truncheon to whack JB with,moaned like buggery when GC was Rovers manager.
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Post by oldie on May 17, 2023 12:26:04 GMT
unconscionable. Not every day I learn a new word. Thank heavens we have the psuedo intellectuals to educate us! Strange, isn't it. Using vocabulary within the scope of a language called "English" is deemed "pseudo intellectual" I thought we all used the same language. Perhaps I am wrong
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Post by laughinggas on May 17, 2023 12:27:13 GMT
And now he has a three game stadium ban. Won't be able to the stand he created full first week.
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