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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 1, 2021 9:40:07 GMT
he doesn’t baffle me. He clearly just doing here the bs Barton does on Twitter. if you are a real genuine person townie, listen: Garner has a pile of testimonials for being able to nurture and develop footballers. Like doing the garden, it takes time. Barton can’t match that. Fact. He is though putting together a fine criminal record. Which one would you rather spend a long time at your club? What’s happening is owner and minions had idea of young squad organic growth. I’m okay with that, as well as forging dna of the finer qualities and values of how a club is run and plays its football. The squad was flawed and not competing to stay in this division, especially up front where they can’t be expected to do better, mostly young and developing not balanced with proven age and experience, at the back we could have expected more, but in defence of individuals any team with new partnerships and systems at back almost every game is asking for trouble. so the panic button was hit to try and avoid relegation falsely believing passion and aggression is all it needed. And that’s the path taken by and supported by fools, falling into the trap that is the big misconception in football. it’s a case of the short term long term game. What’s best and worst for club in long term. This whole thread is about explaining this to fans who just don’t get it. thinking about what just said there, are you at least beginning to see where we are coming from? I really couldn’t be fairer to you if all you really want is argue. re You are rather patronising aren’t you? I get it perfectly well, thank you, and don’t need some kind of education from you or anyone else. If you think Garner was a good choice as manager that’s your prerogative. Performances however tended to suggest otherwise. I hoped WAQ’s appointment of this young, untested coach would lead to sustained growth but it quickly became apparent that he was out of his depth. He was trying to swim in the deep end of an Olympic size swimming pool when he hadn’t progressed from the toddlers paddling pool. It was a relief when he was removed. I thought anyone but Holloway or Tisdale. They selected him, and I supported him because he was out new manager, but if anything he was more inept than Garner, he had been a lower league manager for years, yet served up that dross. MK fans said he was clueless, they were right. I was surprised when Barton was appointed, he wouldn’t be my choice but he is our manager and I will support him and the team. If he proves to be useless I will support his removal. His personal life is none of my business. It doesn’t affect me and I’m prepared to give him a chance on that score. If he commits another offence whilst with us I will hold my hands up and admit my mistake. I don’t see what’s wrong with that, and that is what I’ve been saying all along. Please don’t patronise me, it’s very irritating. Nice, Townie. I think that a very fair post. A middle of the road stance, not designed to upset anyone, non judgemental until a manager proves they're inept, and supportive when needs to be. There's nothing wrong with being objective. If it conflicts with absolutes, then that's a difference in outlook and doesn't need to be personally abused. Fans and supporters have the right to be fans and supporters, and equally the right not to. But trying to dictate to others is hilarious.....I said boycott that ridiculous competition and loads disagreed with me as they turned up. What do I do? Criticise those will the club to do well? JB won't be here in 2 years....but you girls and guys will. Hopefully..
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Mar 1, 2021 9:58:25 GMT
There's no middle of the road with Barton because everywhere he's been has ended in a violent cockfight and there's nothing to suggest it won't end up that way here. It's just a matter of when. I hope they're considering plastic glasses in the new clubhouse.
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Post by towngas on Mar 1, 2021 10:38:02 GMT
You’ve got it all wrong; the Moral Crusaders, fresh from slaying dragons have decreed that Barton’s dedication to Brian Williams is all a ploy to influence the jury at his forthcoming trial, of which the kangarooists on here have already decided the outcome. way of deflection, the second was far more interested in keeping his hands w Pedant’s note: it’s nothing to do with the jury. Have you read the sentencing guidelines? IF Barton is found guilty (from the tone of the EFL head who is privy to some of the witness claims it sounds like there is a solid case) his previous bad character in the eyes of the law puts a custodial sentence very much on the table for a charge of ABH. A key part of the mitigation for a custodial sentence is repentance. As such I’m sure Joey’s defence team would be at pains to point out to the judge that he has shown exemplary character since which has suitably won over customers and stakeholders at his new place of employment. It’s basic PR and Barton more than most will have been well briefed on that score. Yes, he’s going above and beyond the call of duty more than most managers do and in some ways that’s to be applauded but then the likes of Tisdale never had an impending court case with a possible custodial sentence over their head so it’s swings and roundabouts. Additional pedants note. It has everything to do with the jury because guilt is established by the jury before sentencing takes place. So, if the Barton on Out brigade are correct, the jury will be made aware during the trial of Barton’s philanthropic tendencies in an effort to sway them towards NG. I don’t believe that is why JB dedicated the win to Brian. I think he did it because he is immersing himself in this club and learning everything he can about the club and it’s fans. That is a far cry from the previous incumbents, the first of whom spent his entire time moaning about referees as a way of deflecting attention away from his woeful management and inept team performances. The second seemed more interested in keeping his hands clean and his head warm. Yet there are are people on here who say they should have been given more time. I wonder if they would feel the same if they were having to finance the horrible slow-motion car crash unfolding before them.
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Post by towngas on Mar 1, 2021 10:46:28 GMT
I think he's having a go at me there for writing facts about organised religion. He can take it to the 'non-football / anything goes / politics' section and explain why I'm wrong if he feels that strongly about it. But he won't, because he knows that what I wrote is correct, and was just scratching the surface. And anyway, I didn't start it, it was in response to someone making an erroneous equivocation between religion and morality. That doesn't mean that people of faith are by definition immoral people, but if we are talking about Judeo-Christianity, as I said, let's go to the correct forum section and I won't have to move outside of Exodus 21 to demonstrate the shortcomings of that filthy doctrine. To the second point. I would like Wael and Barton to please go away at their earliest convenience, to preserve the club, that's the opposite of destroying it, isn't it? “I would like Wael and Barton to please go away at their earliest convenience, to preserve the club, that's the opposite of destroying it, isn't it?” exactly. But still the religious quote is a misstep from the Barton fan girls considering Barton’s militant intolerant views on this. Are any fan girls actually aware of what Barton is seeking to do, do they really just not care alongs he keeps us up? Calling for the Church of England should be disestablished as the official Church of the U.K. maybe not so controversial in some people’s eyes, other people may see it that Barton is seeking to destroy what they like about their country, it’s close association to the tradition, authority and duty of the Anglican Church. Perhaps more serious, and a touch intolerant, Barton has called for religion to be privatised. All public money withdrawn from religion. anyway, as it went past the hour I started on the Welsh Cakes. Those of us who still value Saint Days, like St George’s day should make most of them before the populist Barton and his Sally Army of wokist fan girls ban them. I’m surprised I have to explain this, but here goes. My comparison with the hysterical Barton Out movement to religious zealotry is not saying the movement has anything to do with religion. I am using religious zealotry as a simile to describe the hysteria over Barton. I could have said it was medieval witch hunting, again a simile. I would not be advocating Barton be put in a ducking stool and drowned, or burnt at the stake for that matter. Did that really need explaining?
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Post by Rex on Mar 1, 2021 10:54:05 GMT
Given your role, I am surprised that you have taken the stance you have. Bristol Rovers Football Club is an employer, the role of manager is one that needs to be filled. I am not forgiving anyone, I am merely stating what I consider to be the facts of the matter. I had to work with people and understand fully their backgrounds before I could take them forwards and sometimes that was incredibly difficult, but if they had served their time then that was it. In those days we would liaise with the Probation Service as some job seekers were precluded from certain employment, for reasons that you will be aware of. I am not sure that you can be certain that "Barton doesn't want forgiveness", as we are back in the territory of people making assumptions about the intentions of the Al Qadi family without very clear evidence to back it up. As I say to the people who I now employ with my wife in our business, "we are not hear to make friends we are here to make money, if we don't make money we are all out of work". (All our employees have to be DBS checked) The role of a football manager is to organise the team to win matches. That is what most supporters want and the morals or political views of the manager are an irrelevance to most. It doesn't matter if people "like" the manager or not. I fundamentally disagreed with the direction of the previous owner of the Football Club and called him to account at each AGM (and he really didn't like it), but I never stopped supporting the team. I could see what was happening and kept my counsel when people were falling over backwards to support the UWE folly. It was a waste of mental energy to fight a battle that couldn't be won. I have been covering matches for Hospital Radio this season and something had to change, watching in the flesh has been a strange experience and I pretty sure that Garnerball would have finished much earlier than was the case if there had been a crowd in. Tisdale was unfortunate because of the Covid-19 outbreak, but he clearly lost the plot towards the end. Is Barton the answer, I don't know? Recruitment is not an exact science and we were not party to it. Regards John Malyckyj “the morals or political views of the manager are an irrelevance to most supporters”. why? Football clubs are a great institution and do a lot for their community. Being a manager is a very public profile job. It’s not like any other job a reformed and apologetic jailbird can be considered for. It’s not just about keeping teams up “so let’s just forget everything if he does that”. Just like political parties, and society in general, football clubs need to be careful they promote the right values, these are tolerance and respect in politics and society in general, tolerance and respect to the laws governing the land and its inhabitants, with clear lines and to react when those lines are crossed. THIS ISN’T MORALISING. THIS IS BEING PRACTICAL ABOUT IT. Tell me, for example, how does a manager discipline a player for making fascist salute when he makes fascist salutes himself? See? You just cannot believe politics is an irrelevance to this role, when political ideology is so finely woven with racism, antisemitism, and intolerance. Likewise: How does a club sack players who have bet on matches they are involved in, when they hire managers with 18 month ban from football who do that themselves? How do you discipline anyone employed by the club who will beat up 15 year old kids, rather than laugh off a bit of teasing banter, when your leader does this themselves?
Etc. Etc. Etc. To say this particular job comes with white Knight standards is not moralising, some fans need to open their eyes to the practicalities and precedents that underwrite the commercial and political transactions of common everyday life. Did he beat up a 15 year old?
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Mar 1, 2021 11:28:23 GMT
way of deflection, the second was far more interested in keeping his hands w Pedant’s note: it’s nothing to do with the jury. Have you read the sentencing guidelines? IF Barton is found guilty (from the tone of the EFL head who is privy to some of the witness claims it sounds like there is a solid case) his previous bad character in the eyes of the law puts a custodial sentence very much on the table for a charge of ABH. A key part of the mitigation for a custodial sentence is repentance. As such I’m sure Joey’s defence team would be at pains to point out to the judge that he has shown exemplary character since which has suitably won over customers and stakeholders at his new place of employment. It’s basic PR and Barton more than most will have been well briefed on that score. Yes, he’s going above and beyond the call of duty more than most managers do and in some ways that’s to be applauded but then the likes of Tisdale never had an impending court case with a possible custodial sentence over their head so it’s swings and roundabouts. Additional pedants note. It has everything to do with the jury because guilt is established by the jury before sentencing takes place. So, if the Barton on Out brigade are correct, the jury will be made aware during the trial of Barton’s philanthropic tendencies in an effort to sway them towards NG. I don’t believe that is why JB dedicated the win to Brian. I think he did it because he is immersing himself in this club and learning everything he can about the club and it’s fans. That is a far cry from the previous incumbents, the first of whom spent his entire time moaning about referees as a way of deflecting attention away from his woeful management and inept team performances. The second seemed more interested in keeping his hands clean and his head warm. Yet there are are people on here who say they should have been given more time. I wonder if they would feel the same if they were having to finance the horrible slow-motion car crash unfolding before them. you are responding strongly today Townie, but you are picking and choosing which points to respond to - you haven’t touched the THIS ISN’T MORALISING THIS IS THE PRACTICALITIES OF THE MISTAKE post. the main mistake you are making is putting too much blame for the car crash on managers. The car crash was waiting to occur long before Garner joined the club. I think performances and results were not so bad under him to be honest, but I would have been happier if he had a Lenny next to him like Trolls had, rather than just sack him. I think we would definitely have stood more chance of survival in that scenario, but even with relegation be in better place to build back better. Because the second big mistake you are not addressing, it’s not any of the three managers this season who took us down. It was the inadequacy of the squad not addressed.
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Post by towngas on Mar 1, 2021 12:50:09 GMT
Additional pedants note. It has everything to do with the jury because guilt is established by the jury before sentencing takes place. So, if the Barton on Out brigade are correct, the jury will be made aware during the trial of Barton’s philanthropic tendencies in an effort to sway them towards NG. I don’t believe that is why JB dedicated the win to Brian. I think he did it because he is immersing himself in this club and learning everything he can about the club and it’s fans. That is a far cry from the previous incumbents, the first of whom spent his entire time moaning about referees as a way of deflecting attention away from his woeful management and inept team performances. The second seemed more interested in keeping his hands clean and his head warm. Yet there are are people on here who say they should have been given more time. I wonder if they would feel the same if they were having to finance the horrible slow-motion car crash unfolding before them. you are responding strongly today Townie, but you are picking and choosing which points to respond to - you haven’t touched the THIS ISN’T MORALISING THIS IS THE PRACTICALITIES OF THE MISTAKE post. e passion and empathy with the supporters the main mistake you are making is putting too much blame for the car crash on managers. The car crash was waiting to occur long before Garner joined the club. I think performances and results were not so bad under him to be honest, but I would have been happier if he had a Lenny next to him like Trolls had, rather than just sack him. I think we would definitely have stood more chance of survival in that scenario, but even with relegation be in better place to build back better. Because the second big mistake you are not addressing, it’s not any of the three managers this season who took us down. It was the inadequacy of the squad not addressed. I have already dealt with the moralising aspect. As far as I am concerned he is here as our manager. I want to see him improve the team, avert relegation, show some passion for the club and this city and empathise with the supporters. I am not here to moralise about his character, or dwell on his past misdeeds. He starts with a clean slate. If he offends again I will admit I was wrong. As for the practicalities, are you referring to if he should receive a custodial so won’t be able to carry out his managerial duties?. As we haven’t got the first idea of measures put in place to deal with that eventuality, if any, why speculate? Even the professional Bristolian big mouth Holloway doesn’t seem to know, because you can be sure he would be gobbing off about it all over his ridiculous column if he did. And please, stop patronising me.
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Post by Angas on Mar 1, 2021 14:24:58 GMT
And I think he did it to try to ingratiate himself to the fans. It made uncomfortable listening for me. He would never have known Brian, never even have heard of him. My guess is someone at the club suggested it would be a clever move to make that dedication. Spin, pure and simple imo.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2021 14:27:02 GMT
“I would like Wael and Barton to please go away at their earliest convenience, to preserve the club, that's the opposite of destroying it, isn't it?” exactly. But still the religious quote is a misstep from the Barton fan girls considering Barton’s militant intolerant views on this. Are any fan girls actually aware of what Barton is seeking to do, do they really just not care alongs he keeps us up? Calling for the Church of England should be disestablished as the official Church of the U.K. maybe not so controversial in some people’s eyes, other people may see it that Barton is seeking to destroy what they like about their country, it’s close association to the tradition, authority and duty of the Anglican Church. Perhaps more serious, and a touch intolerant, Barton has called for religion to be privatised. All public money withdrawn from religion. anyway, as it went past the hour I started on the Welsh Cakes. Those of us who still value Saint Days, like St George’s day should make most of them before the populist Barton and his Sally Army of wokist fan girls ban them. I’m surprised I have to explain this, but here goes. My comparison with the hysterical Barton Out movement to religious zealotry is not saying the movement has anything to do with religion. I am using religious zealotry as a simile to describe the hysteria over Barton. I could have said it was medieval witch hunting, again a simile. I would not be advocating Barton be put in a ducking stool and drowned, or burnt at the stake for that matter. Did that really need explaining? You seem to be arguing your position with equal vigour to that displayed by any of us opposed to the appointment. We've all become hysterical, apparently.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 1, 2021 15:19:30 GMT
And I think he did it to try to ingratiate himself to the fans. It made uncomfortable listening for me. He would never have known Brian, never even have heard of him. My guess is someone at the club suggested it would be a clever move to make that dedication. Spin, pure and simple imo. As I understand it, that is precisely what happened, the tote end old boys Facebook page names the person who told him. I’m being besieged on there, for not agreeing with the crowd
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2021 15:33:48 GMT
And I think he did it to try to ingratiate himself to the fans. It made uncomfortable listening for me. He would never have known Brian, never even have heard of him. My guess is someone at the club suggested it would be a clever move to make that dedication. Spin, pure and simple imo. Sadly, I concur. To give Barton one piece of credit he seems to be well versed in the sort of populism that would appeal to football fans (eg calling out England footballers for releasing books that cashed in on the 20006 World Cup failure) so as a manager he will know how to engage and get supporters parroting that God awful “he gets the club!!!11” phrase. So maybe this is genuinely him doing his research and finding a chance to bring up a well known member of the Rovers community’s passing....but it’s hard at this point in time not to view it with a cynic’s hat on. Let’s see how he does after the court case when he has no outstanding criminal matters. That’s not me saying he will continue to punch people, just maybe that he might be less pro-active with the fans on social media and such like when the need for a charm offensive has cooled off.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2021 15:36:06 GMT
And I think he did it to try to ingratiate himself to the fans. It made uncomfortable listening for me. He would never have known Brian, never even have heard of him. My guess is someone at the club suggested it would be a clever move to make that dedication. Spin, pure and simple imo. As I understand it, that is precisely what happened, the tote end old boys Facebook page names the person who told him. I’m being besieged on there, for not agreeing with the crowd Oof. Either way it’s a nice touch and if it’s appreciated by Brian’s family then that’s all for the best. But I guess we need to temper the raised expectations brought about by Barton’s media-savvy with the realistic prospect that he knows/the club is advising him how to make the best PR possible.
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Post by towngas on Mar 1, 2021 15:41:10 GMT
I’m surprised I have to explain this, but here goes. My comparison with the hysterical Barton Out movement to religious zealotry is not saying the movement has anything to do with religion. I am using religious zealotry as a simile to describe the hysteria over Barton. I could have said it was medieval witch hunting, again a simile. I would not be advocating Barton be put in a ducking stool and drowned, or burnt at the stake for that matter. Did that really need explaining? You seem to be arguing your position with equal vigour to that displayed by any of us opposed to the appointment. We've all become hysterical, apparently. Perhaps we have. I’m prepared to give him a chance, others aren’t. I hope it doesn’t end in tears a Ive said all along. Let’s hope for the best from the situation. The doubters may end up pleasantly surprised.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2021 15:53:59 GMT
You seem to be arguing your position with equal vigour to that displayed by any of us opposed to the appointment. We've all become hysterical, apparently. Perhaps we have. I’m prepared to give him a chance, others aren’t. I hope it doesn’t end in tears a Ive said all along. Let’s hope for the best from the situation. The doubters may end up pleasantly surprised. Not possible for me to be pleasantly surprised by anything that follows from this point. His previous conduct, and outstanding case he has to answer, during which he will be talked about as 'Bristol Rovers manager Joey Barton' and his previous offences will be referenced, have dragged the name of our club into the gutter. As an act of self harm it's quite ridiculous. At least I'll always be able to say that I had the moral fortitude to oppose it and wasn't willing to compromise my standards in exchange for the hope of winning a few games of football. Hope you enjoy his time here.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 1, 2021 16:09:28 GMT
And I think he did it to try to ingratiate himself to the fans. It made uncomfortable listening for me. He would never have known Brian, never even have heard of him. My guess is someone at the club suggested it would be a clever move to make that dedication. Spin, pure and simple imo. As I understand it, that is precisely what happened, the tote end old boys Facebook page names the person who told him. I’m being besieged on there, for not agreeing with the crowd Sorry to hear that, Kp....some long time friendships there methinks?! If JB genuinely wanted to express condolences to BW family, I hope he made a personal approach and asked permission to make it public. If no contact was made, it looks like no matter how much a nice gesture it is, it's opportunistic, and cynically used to manipulate a mindset as it appears to be virtue signalling.
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Post by swissgas on Mar 1, 2021 16:27:30 GMT
You seem to be arguing your position with equal vigour to that displayed by any of us opposed to the appointment. We've all become hysterical, apparently. Perhaps we have. I’m prepared to give him a chance, others aren’t. I hope it doesn’t end in tears a Ive said all along. Let’s hope for the best from the situation. The doubters may end up pleasantly surprised. "Hoping for the best" is the strategy which caused Nick Higgs to fail and which is causing Wael to fail.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Mar 1, 2021 16:43:06 GMT
you are responding strongly today Townie, but you are picking and choosing which points to respond to - you haven’t touched the THIS ISN’T MORALISING THIS IS THE PRACTICALITIES OF THE MISTAKE post. e passion and empathy with the supporters the main mistake you are making is putting too much blame for the car crash on managers. The car crash was waiting to occur long before Garner joined the club. I think performances and results were not so bad under him to be honest, but I would have been happier if he had a Lenny next to him like Trolls had, rather than just sack him. I think we would definitely have stood more chance of survival in that scenario, but even with relegation be in better place to build back better. Because the second big mistake you are not addressing, it’s not any of the three managers this season who took us down. It was the inadequacy of the squad not addressed. I have already dealt with the moralising aspect. As far as I am concerned he is here as our manager. I want to see him improve the team, avert relegation, show some passion for the club and this city and empathise with the supporters. I am not here to moralise about his character, or dwell on his past misdeeds. He starts with a clean slate. If he offends again I will admit I was wrong. As for the practicalities, are you referring to if he should receive a custodial so won’t be able to carry out his managerial duties?. As we haven’t got the first idea of measures put in place to deal with that eventuality, if any, why speculate? Even the professional Bristolian big mouth Holloway doesn’t seem to know, because you can be sure he would be gobbing off about it all over his ridiculous column if he did. And please, stop patronising me. your answer there is very very lucid of your mindset. we are actually getting to the crux of the schism, or both of them, where each half of fan base just can’t believe the crap coming from the other half. Not remotely on the same page because it depends on what you actually understand the problem is. Do you think couple of not up to it managers who talk football science jibberish and their results were crap dug a hole, someone with a bit of passion will get the players playing for the shirt sorts it out; just avoid the disaster of relegation and apart from that not much else wrong? Or do you think the wreckage of this season is more fundamental, the seeds of the problem growing long before the pseudo managers appointed, merely being kept up by Barton is a sticky plaster on a disease, far better to tackle the disease right now and accept the relegation that is all down to the disease not the managers anyway. That’s essentially it, though with much argued about the non footballing values and beliefs of a manager, on if the horror at Barton here is based on anything practical or just high horse moralising, which actually clouds the real problem at rovers, where Barton is just symptom, not the disease. In fact there is a third crux in mix of all this, one much older and more universal, the schism between those fans who think a rubbish performance is down to lack of passion and effort in players, lack of pride in wearing the shirt and love of the club, and those fans listening to this and thinking what a lot of ignorant bulls***. From the wonder of TV coverage of football now, you can see managers tweaking things in flat clueless performances and completely turning those performances around. Edit. Meanwhile from the horror of Twitter abuse of players you can see just how many fans haven’t a clue.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2021 17:59:17 GMT
For those who think Barton did a really good job at Fleetwood what are their thoughts on Fleetwood this season? They look to be in free fall at the moment and not because Joey left- he was responsible for a run of 1 win in 9 before his departure so the rot had set in by the time he walked and a run of 1 win in 9 is usually enough to see most managers lose their jobs regardless so puts into doubt Barton’s narrative that he left them.
I would have thought an excellent manager like Barton would have had them top of the table when he left. Anything but, by the look of things.
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Post by towngas on Mar 1, 2021 17:59:21 GMT
Perhaps we have. I’m prepared to give him a chance, others aren’t. I hope it doesn’t end in tears a Ive said all along. Let’s hope for the best from the situation. The doubters may end up pleasantly surprised. "Hoping for the best" is the strategy which caused Nick Higgs to fail and which is causing Wael to fail. All I can do is hope for the best and I would suggest all any other fan can do is hope for the best. As for WAQ, what would you do differently. Don’t forget,of course, that it’s your fortune on the line. How would you spend your money? Or would you even get involved in football. Talk is cheap my friend.
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Post by towngas on Mar 1, 2021 18:01:36 GMT
For those who think Barton did a really good job at Fleetwood what are their thoughts on Fleetwood this season? They look to be in free fall at the moment and not because Joey left- he was responsible for a run of 1 win in 9 before his departure so the rot had set in by the time he walked and a run of 1 win in 9 is usually enough to see most managers lose their jobs regardless so puts into doubt Barton’s narrative that he left them. I would have thought an excellent manager like Barton would have had them top of the table when he left. Anything but, by the look of things. Don’t recall you berating the appointment of Tisdale on the back of his horrendous run which led to him being fired by MK Plastics. But then you’re in the anyone but Barton camp, aren’t you?
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