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Post by rideintothesun on Oct 14, 2022 12:20:19 GMT
I'm assuming Wael made this decision on the basis of expert legal advice, not on the basis of the CPS evidence.
JB himself asserted that the club had become a shambles under Wael's stewardship. Numerous bad decisions in appointing staff - to take just two examples, Widdrington and Starnes.
He isn't some super-sharp banker. He's basically a rich kid involved in running the family business.
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Post by baselswh on Oct 14, 2022 12:37:03 GMT
I'm assuming Wael made this decision on the basis of expert legal advice, not on the basis of the CPS evidence. JB himself asserted that the club had become a shambles under Wael's stewardship. Numerous bad decisions in appointing staff - to take just two examples, Widdrington and Starnes. He isn't some super-sharp banker. He's basically a rich kid involved in running the family business. Ah,now I may agree with that a certain extent,but,Wael was sharp enough to entrust much authority to Joe. That was a very good decision.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2022 14:10:47 GMT
No I agree. You can say what you like. But is it productive now? If Barton is found guilty of assaulting his wife then I suspect many will find it untenable to be in the ground with him as manager, including me. Look at the length of the contract that Wael gave JB. I think there are strong grounds for assuming that it is very likely that JB will not be found guilty. Wael, bless him, isn't the sharpest tool in the box but I think we are safe in assuming that he wouldn't give out a contract of this length unless he had some pretty strong assurances in this regard. Refer to the Giggs trial, which went to retrial, despite the evidence, in my view, appearing pretty strong. Would it be remiss of me to suggest that a higher legal threshold applies applies to celebrities (both 'A' list ones and 'C' list ones like 'our Joey')? What a respectful post. Maybe there should be a poll as to who is sharper, Wael or rideintothesun. I wouldn't fancy the latters chances...
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Post by rufustfirefly on Oct 14, 2022 14:17:57 GMT
I would suggest that Wael and the Huyton Hoofer are a lot sharper than the $hit Show attempting to run the country right now.
Its time to call a general election but I fear it wouldn't come in time for England's efforts to win the World Cup because Engerland only win the World Cup when there's a Labour Government.
Lets end with Quiz question - is FIFA really more corrupt than the the UK Conservative Party?
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Post by oldie on Oct 14, 2022 14:29:00 GMT
I would suggest that Wael and the Huyton Hoofer are a lot sharper than the $hit Show attempting to run the country right now. Its time to call a general election but I fear it wouldn't come in time for England's efforts to win the World Cup because Engerland only win the World Cup when there's a Labour Government. Lets end with Quiz question - is FIFA really more corrupt than the the UK Conservative Party? Wrong section...but still funny 😂😂
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Post by Bath Gas on Oct 14, 2022 16:45:04 GMT
I would suggest that Wael and the Huyton Hoofer are a lot sharper than the $hit Show attempting to run the country right now. Its time to call a general election but I fear it wouldn't come in time for England's efforts to win the World Cup because Engerland only win the World Cup when there's a Labour Government. Lets end with Quiz question - is FIFA really more corrupt than the the UK Conservative Party? I read an article at the weekend about the people who were at the event when Qatar were announced as hosting the 2022 World Cup. The vast majority have since been found guilty of fruadulent actions related to football. Platini has now served his four year ban - would you have him back? Beckham declared that he was disgusted by the bidding process which saw Qatar named as hosts - anybody know what he's up to this Winter?
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Post by One F in Dunford on Oct 14, 2022 17:04:54 GMT
That's true. There's no reason not to shut up and duck off, as oft requested. By who? Looking forward to the answer. 🍿
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Post by oldie on Oct 14, 2022 17:25:51 GMT
I would suggest that Wael and the Huyton Hoofer are a lot sharper than the $hit Show attempting to run the country right now. Its time to call a general election but I fear it wouldn't come in time for England's efforts to win the World Cup because Engerland only win the World Cup when there's a Labour Government. Lets end with Quiz question - is FIFA really more corrupt than the the UK Conservative Party? I read an article at the weekend about the people who were at the event when Qatar were announced as hosting the 2022 World Cup. The vast majority have since been found guilty of fruadulent actions related to football. Platini has now served his four year ban - would you have him back? Beckham declared that he was disgusted by the bidding process which saw Qatar named as hosts - anybody know what he's up to this Winter? Inter Miami
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2022 19:57:24 GMT
By WHOM, for duck's sake. Good night.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Oct 15, 2022 10:43:32 GMT
Seem obsessed by this. Do not know why as I certainly do not count my posts. Maybe a hobby would help ?
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Post by kingswood Polak on Oct 15, 2022 10:52:15 GMT
I'm assuming Wael made this decision on the basis of expert legal advice, not on the basis of the CPS evidence. JB himself asserted that the club had become a shambles under Wael's stewardship. Numerous bad decisions in appointing staff - to take just two examples, Widdrington and Starnes. He isn't some super-sharp banker. He's basically a rich kid involved in running the family business. Ah,now I may agree with that a certain extent,but,Wael was sharp enough to entrust much authority to Joe. That was a very good decision. So much that all of the football side are his long term friends. Could do his job were he to be found guilty and I am sure Wael would welcome him back if he did do any time. The club is in his and his mates hands
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Post by rowdenhill on Oct 15, 2022 11:33:45 GMT
Czy jest tu gdzies narciarstwo?
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Post by kingswood Polak on Oct 15, 2022 12:52:12 GMT
Czy jest tu gdzies narciarstwo? You wish to find out if there is skiing nearby 😂
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Post by rufustfirefly on Oct 21, 2022 10:04:38 GMT
If the justice system concur with the title of this (currently) 130 page thread 'that Barton is unfit to manage Bristol Rovers' on finding him guilty as charged and punish him by issuing a custodial sentence there will be rejoicing and much merry making from those that have repeatedly made plain their misgivings of this appointment.
The question I would put to those eager to see the demise of Barton and his exit from Bristol's oldest F.C. - who would be their ideal successor to JB?
With the Haunted Wardrobe that is JRM and other genetically modified Tories heralding the return of a rouge as PM of the nation would a returnee be the answer in replacing a displaced rouge at BRFC? To late for GC. Would Tis' be worth a 2nd chance? What about Ollie?
For those firmly or not so firmly behind Mr Barton the conundrum is very different - should he receive a 12 month custodial sentence of which less than 6 months may be spent behind bars then would Mangan and Whelan take the reigns as caretakers?
A sentence that would detain JB at Charlies pleasure for more than 12 months may require more detailed strategic planning.
I'm sure there is a such risk assessment on a laptop somewhere.
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Post by eppinggas on Oct 21, 2022 10:37:29 GMT
If the justice system concur with the title of this (currently) 130 page thread 'that Barton is unfit to manage Bristol Rovers' on finding him guilty as charged and punish him by issuing a custodial sentence there will be rejoicing and much merry making from those that have repeatedly made plain their misgivings of this appointment. The question I would put to those eager to see the demise of Barton and his exit from Bristol's oldest F.C. - who would be their ideal successor to JB? With the Haunted Wardrobe that is JRM and other genetically modified Tories heralding the return of a rouge as PM of the nation would a returnee be the answer in replacing a displaced rouge at BRFC? To late for GC. Would Tis' be worth a 2nd chance? What about Ollie? For those firmly or not so firmly behind Mr Barton the conundrum is very different - should he receive a 12 month custodial sentence of which less than 6 months may be spent behind bars then would Mangan and Whelan take the reigns as caretakers? A sentence that would detain JB at Charlies pleasure for more than 12 months may require more detailed strategic planning. I'm sure there is a such risk assessment on a laptop somewhere. I think you will find that Barton will not face a custodial sentence if found guilty.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Oct 21, 2022 10:38:41 GMT
If the justice system concur with the title of this (currently) 130 page thread 'that Barton is unfit to manage Bristol Rovers' on finding him guilty as charged and punish him by issuing a custodial sentence there will be rejoicing and much merry making from those that have repeatedly made plain their misgivings of this appointment. The question I would put to those eager to see the demise of Barton and his exit from Bristol's oldest F.C. - who would be their ideal successor to JB? With the Haunted Wardrobe that is JRM and other genetically modified Tories heralding the return of a rouge as PM of the nation would a returnee be the answer in replacing a displaced rouge at BRFC? To late for GC. Would Tis' be worth a 2nd chance? What about Ollie? For those firmly or not so firmly behind Mr Barton the conundrum is very different - should he receive a 12 month custodial sentence of which less than 6 months may be spent behind bars then would Mangan and Whelan take the reigns as caretakers? A sentence that would detain JB at Charlies pleasure for more than 12 months may require more detailed strategic planning. I'm sure there is a such risk assessment on a laptop somewhere. I know it is going back many years but if David Williams wanted to manage then i’d love him as our manager. The biggest problem, in attracting someone of worth is showing them that we have real ambition to push on , i do not think the club have the ambition as it would mean spending many millions on a fit for purpose stadium. We will not progress without it.
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Post by baselswh on Oct 21, 2022 10:45:53 GMT
If the justice system concur with the title of this (currently) 130 page thread 'that Barton is unfit to manage Bristol Rovers' on finding him guilty as charged and punish him by issuing a custodial sentence there will be rejoicing and much merry making from those that have repeatedly made plain their misgivings of this appointment. The question I would put to those eager to see the demise of Barton and his exit from Bristol's oldest F.C. - who would be their ideal successor to JB? With the Haunted Wardrobe that is JRM and other genetically modified Tories heralding the return of a rouge as PM of the nation would a returnee be the answer in replacing a displaced rouge at BRFC? To late for GC. Would Tis' be worth a 2nd chance? What about Ollie? For those firmly or not so firmly behind Mr Barton the conundrum is very different - should he receive a 12 month custodial sentence of which less than 6 months may be spent behind bars then would Mangan and Whelan take the reigns as caretakers? A sentence that would detain JB at Charlies pleasure for more than 12 months may require more detailed strategic planning. I'm sure there is a such risk assessment on a laptop somewhere. Andy Mangham and Glen Whelan eg,to keep things ticking over until JBs release. I don't think there will be a custodial sentence and anyway,JB will be found not guilty. Joe Barton is possibly the best Manager in Rovers history,despite the irreverent title of this thread.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Oct 21, 2022 10:56:30 GMT
If the justice system concur with the title of this (currently) 130 page thread 'that Barton is unfit to manage Bristol Rovers' on finding him guilty as charged and punish him by issuing a custodial sentence there will be rejoicing and much merry making from those that have repeatedly made plain their misgivings of this appointment. The question I would put to those eager to see the demise of Barton and his exit from Bristol's oldest F.C. - who would be their ideal successor to JB? With the Haunted Wardrobe that is JRM and other genetically modified Tories heralding the return of a rouge as PM of the nation would a returnee be the answer in replacing a displaced rouge at BRFC? To late for GC. Would Tis' be worth a 2nd chance? What about Ollie? For those firmly or not so firmly behind Mr Barton the conundrum is very different - should he receive a 12 month custodial sentence of which less than 6 months may be spent behind bars then would Mangan and Whelan take the reigns as caretakers? A sentence that would detain JB at Charlies pleasure for more than 12 months may require more detailed strategic planning. I'm sure there is a such risk assessment on a laptop somewhere. Andy Mangham and Glen Whelan eg,to keep things ticking over until JBs release. I don't think there will be a custodial sentence and anyway,JB will be found not guilty. Joe Barton is possibly the best Manager in Rovers history,despite the irreverent title of this thread. Very predictable but anyway, very early to make any call on best manager in the clubs history. He has not got us to tier 2 even. I’d put those mangers who did, before him
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Post by Bath Gas on Oct 21, 2022 11:00:29 GMT
If the justice system concur with the title of this (currently) 130 page thread 'that Barton is unfit to manage Bristol Rovers' on finding him guilty as charged and punish him by issuing a custodial sentence there will be rejoicing and much merry making from those that have repeatedly made plain their misgivings of this appointment. The question I would put to those eager to see the demise of Barton and his exit from Bristol's oldest F.C. - who would be their ideal successor to JB? With the Haunted Wardrobe that is JRM and other genetically modified Tories heralding the return of a rouge as PM of the nation would a returnee be the answer in replacing a displaced rouge at BRFC? To late for GC. Would Tis' be worth a 2nd chance? What about Ollie? For those firmly or not so firmly behind Mr Barton the conundrum is very different - should he receive a 12 month custodial sentence of which less than 6 months may be spent behind bars then would Mangan and Whelan take the reigns as caretakers? A sentence that would detain JB at Charlies pleasure for more than 12 months may require more detailed strategic planning. I'm sure there is a such risk assessment on a laptop somewhere. Magistrate's can only give a 6 month prison sentence for a single offence.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Oct 21, 2022 11:08:12 GMT
If the justice system concur with the title of this (currently) 130 page thread 'that Barton is unfit to manage Bristol Rovers' on finding him guilty as charged and punish him by issuing a custodial sentence there will be rejoicing and much merry making from those that have repeatedly made plain their misgivings of this appointment. The question I would put to those eager to see the demise of Barton and his exit from Bristol's oldest F.C. - who would be their ideal successor to JB? With the Haunted Wardrobe that is JRM and other genetically modified Tories heralding the return of a rouge as PM of the nation would a returnee be the answer in replacing a displaced rouge at BRFC? To late for GC. Would Tis' be worth a 2nd chance? What about Ollie? For those firmly or not so firmly behind Mr Barton the conundrum is very different - should he receive a 12 month custodial sentence of which less than 6 months may be spent behind bars then would Mangan and Whelan take the reigns as caretakers? A sentence that would detain JB at Charlies pleasure for more than 12 months may require more detailed strategic planning. I'm sure there is a such risk assessment on a laptop somewhere. Magistrate's can only give a 6 month prison sentence for a single offence. Correct. It’s a minefield though as magistrates can then send a case to the crown if they feel it pertinent to do so but i do not think there will be a guilty verdict and this will be thrown out.
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