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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Feb 28, 2021 11:12:14 GMT
Mike/Jay/Harry/ Degg/John McClean/Herbert Blake Come on, my dear Concie. I have had Degg down as one of Jay's pseudonyms for so long now, and believe me Jay calls me worse, you can't let the truth get in the way of repetition. I miss the days when Degg was the worst of the hot-heads we worried about. I hope supporter attendances return soon, and we can get back to having nothing more to worry about than Degg's obsession with away following numbers. Once the social media celebrity violent criminal's sacked, of course. He who is without Hoi sin, cast the first stone!
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Post by Rex on Feb 28, 2021 11:50:04 GMT
... It's such a shame I'm writing this on a Bristol Rovers forum. Many of you think I'm a idiot for taking this position, according to your insults above. Good riddance, you may say. But the feeling is not mutual. I don't want rid of you at all. I cannot support Joey Barton's Rovers, but I don't criticise you for doing so. I look forward to the day we have a board and most importantly a manager, whether successful or failing, whom we can all support without holding our nose... This is the sad part, the fact that many of the Barton supporters can't accept others may have a different opinion and hurl insults at them.
Before the appointment I was reading things like: "People should be ashamed of themselves if they email the club saying they don't want Barton." ... Hmm! The shame! < scratches head >. Then, as you say, the insults such as good riddance, as if you are no longer welcome as a supporter just because you don't agree with the appointment of the manager. ... I don't want Barton, but it doesn't stop me supporting the team. Then, after the victory last night, the goading with comments such as: "Where are all the snowflakes now then?" ... So, just because you don't agree with appointing a manger, because of his violent actions and personal attributes to date, it makes you a snowflake. Okay then. BTW 'snowflake' has to be the s***tiest new putdown, following on from the equally pathetic 'grow a pair' and 'man up'. There have been plenty of digs in the other direction as well. I didn't really want Barton as manager, but now he's here , I will still support the team and certainly won't be hoping for them to lose like some do. That of course is up to them, but a Rovers forum is a strange place to share those views. What's the average employment time of a football league manager these days, a couple of years? He will be gone soon enough anyway.
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Post by tanksfull on Feb 28, 2021 12:32:58 GMT
... It's such a shame I'm writing this on a Bristol Rovers forum. Many of you think I'm a idiot for taking this position, according to your insults above. Good riddance, you may say. But the feeling is not mutual. I don't want rid of you at all. I cannot support Joey Barton's Rovers, but I don't criticise you for doing so. I look forward to the day we have a board and most importantly a manager, whether successful or failing, whom we can all support without holding our nose... This is the sad part, the fact that many of the Barton supporters can't accept others may have a different opinion and hurl insults at them. Before the appointment I was reading things like: "People should be ashamed of themselves if they email the club saying they don't want Barton." ... Hmm! The shame! < scratches head >. Then, as you say, the insults such as good riddance, as if you are no longer welcome as a supporter just because you don't agree with the appointment of the manager. ... I don't want Barton, but it doesn't stop me supporting the team. Then, after the victory last night, the goading with comments such as: "Where are all the snowflakes now then?" ... So, just because you don't agree with appointing a manger, because of his violent actions and personal attributes to date, it makes you a snowflake. Okay then. BTW 'snowflake' has to be the s***tiest new putdown, following on from the equally pathetic 'grow a pair' and 'man up'. They have no defence so...
I wonder if their thinking is "the best form of defence is attack"?
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Post by towngas on Feb 28, 2021 12:46:11 GMT
Barton will get rid of himself. Summer sun brings relegation and most likely custodial sentence for Barton, held over or otherwise. One or other gets rid of him. I reckon he will be gone much earlier than that actually, he will do something stupid at some point, of course he will. But Barton is not the problem. The Barton fan club accusing us of being on high horses and moralising just don’t get it at all. The penny is slow to drop for them. Barton polluting the good name of our club is merely a shaft of light or alarm bell to what the problem really is here. Wael and his failed crew of CEO’s and dofs all need to go before this club can step up once again. This thread isn’t about moralising. It’s about finally waking up and smelling THE coffee. If it hadn’t been for Wael and his millions generously sunk into Rovers without hope of return we would all have woken up and smelt the coffee of Rovers extinction several years ago. Still don’t let your high-horse moralising get in the way of your hurt feelings. Rather a nice gesture of the vicious, violent thug to dedicate yesterday’s win to a recently deceased life long supporter. I expect you’d much rather he had kicked the interviewer in the nuts, put him on the ground and given his head a good shoeing whilst screaming ‘You b'stard snowflake, why don’t you grow a pair and man up’ to reinforce your perception of him.
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Post by towngas on Feb 28, 2021 12:51:37 GMT
No, I was referencing the statement that Rovers wouldn’t be a very attractive proposition for any prospective manager and had a bad reputation.As for DC returning, come off it. The only possible worse scenario would have been for Holloway the Professional Bristolian to rock up again. As for Barton being our manager, my hope is that he will have matured and will not act in that way again. People can change, wouldn’t you be happy for him and the club if he has? As I've already said in relation to both points; I didn't agree with every point Shoveler made, but the main thrust of the post was sufficiently compelling for me to feel that it would have been a shame had it dropped down the message board. I agree with you with reference to DC, he produced a period of magic with a motley group of players, but has yet to demonstrate that he can reproduce that, so at this stage there's nothing to even suggest that his return would be a step forward. I've already said, I wish Joey nothing but good health and happiness in his personal life, that extends to his nearest and dearest, but with his previous conduct, having him associated with Rovers tarnishes our reputation. There's an upcoming court case, regardless of the outcome the media won't introduce him as ex-professional footballer Mr Barton, it'll be Bristol Rovers' Manager Joey Barton, they'll then say what he's accused of, and mud sticks unfortunately. Yes, I do hope that he's learned and matured, but have no evidence that this is the case and don't want my club to pay an even greater price in terms of reputational harm when he loses his temper and assaults his next victim. The beauty of respectful debate is that we can disagree but accept the others opinion. I certainly respect how you feel, I don’t agree with you but if he transgresses again I will hold my hands up. If he doesn’t, even if he ultimately fails purely as our manager I hope you’d do the ame.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2021 12:55:32 GMT
Dear Rex, I do respect your position on this. I didn't really want Barton as manager, but now he's here , I will still support the team and certainly won't be hoping for them to lose like some do. That of course is up to them, but a Rovers forum is a strange place to share those views. Yes I can see this absolutely, Rex, and were I in the 'keep supporting throughout the psychopath's management' camp, I think I might find people sharing wishes for Rovers defeat on a Gas forum quite inexplicable. 1. I'm finding it hard to hope for defeat. Yesterday's result gave me mixed feelings. I really don't want Rovers relegated. It's unnatural not to want a Rovers win. I suppose I really want as many losses as sustainable without quite getting relegated, such is my aversion to any team led by a social media celebrity violent criminal. 2. How annoying or boring this may be for the 'keep supporting despite the convicted thug's management' camp is not something I am deaf to. That's why I will share my thoughts on this thread only, leaving the rest of the Guzzler entirely duck free until the violent narcissist is no longer Bristol Rovers manager. 3. I won't take another break from the Guzzler entirely, as I think it is vital to have the views of Gasheads not supporting Rovers at all while Joey Barton remains employed there aired on the Guzzler somewhere. 4. You make a good point, and I will not be wishing for defeat so publicly. But let the record show that anything, and I mean almost anything, that hastens the departure of that wholly unfit character from Bristol Rovers FC, is to me a price worth paying. What's the average employment time of a football league manager these days, a couple of years? He will be gone soon enough anyway. Two years under Al Qadi? I wish some of his predecessors had been given even one year! I like longer managerial terms than most people, as I think I've demonstrated on here before. But I will be delighted as soon as the present incumbent is removed from his rôle. Then we can all get back to supporting the same team again. Yours sincerely, Shoves
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Feb 28, 2021 12:56:27 GMT
Barton will get rid of himself. Summer sun brings relegation and most likely custodial sentence for Barton, held over or otherwise. One or other gets rid of him. I reckon he will be gone much earlier than that actually, he will do something stupid at some point, of course he will. But Barton is not the problem. The Barton fan club accusing us of being on high horses and moralising just don’t get it at all. The penny is slow to drop for them. Barton polluting the good name of our club is merely a shaft of light or alarm bell to what the problem really is here. Wael and his failed crew of CEO’s and dofs all need to go before this club can step up once again. This thread isn’t about moralising. It’s about finally waking up and smelling THE coffee. If it hadn’t been for Wael and his millions generously sunk into Rovers without hope of return we would all have woken up and smelt the coffee of Rovers extinction several years ago. Still don’t let your high-horse moralising get in the way of your hurt feelings. Rather a nice gesture of the vicious, violent thug to dedicate yesterday’s win to a recently deceased life long supporter. I expect you’d much rather he had kicked the interviewer in the nuts, put him on the ground and given his head a good shoeing whilst screaming ‘You b****** snowflake, why don’t you grow a pair and man up’ to reinforce your perception of him. 😆😆😆😆😊😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😊😊🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. he’s playing you! And like the fool you are lapping it up!
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Feb 28, 2021 12:58:37 GMT
This modern era of Twittersphere seems to be a big issue to us as well. It seems you can be worse than rubbish at politics and football management and civil society in general yet end up in the White House as leader of free world, or as leader of Bristol Rovers leading the Gas World - on the strength of nowt but your TWITTER box office!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2021 13:03:27 GMT
Barton will get rid of himself. Summer sun brings relegation and most likely custodial sentence for Barton, held over or otherwise. One or other gets rid of him. I reckon he will be gone much earlier than that actually, he will do something stupid at some point, of course he will. But Barton is not the problem. The Barton fan club accusing us of being on high horses and moralising just don’t get it at all. The penny is slow to drop for them. Barton polluting the good name of our club is merely a shaft of light or alarm bell to what the problem really is here. Wael and his failed crew of CEO’s and dofs all need to go before this club can step up once again. This thread isn’t about moralising. It’s about finally waking up and smelling THE coffee. If it hadn’t been for Wael and his millions generously sunk into Rovers without hope of return we would all have woken up and smelt the coffee of Rovers extinction several years ago. Still don’t let your high-horse moralising get in the way of your hurt feelings. Rather a nice gesture of the vicious, violent thug to dedicate yesterday’s win to a recently deceased life long supporter. I expect you’d much rather he had kicked the interviewer in the nuts, put him on the ground and given his head a good shoeing whilst screaming ‘You b****** snowflake, why don’t you grow a pair and man up’ to reinforce your perception of him. Well you can look at that in two ways: one, that all this engagement comes from the heart and is proof he’s just a softie and all round good egg really and two, that he is laundering his reputation in public knowing that he has got a court case coming up and needs to show in the strongest possible way that he is now of good character. We will all have our own thoughts on which side of the fence we fall on on that score.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2021 13:04:32 GMT
😆😆😆😆😊😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😊😊🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. he’s playing you! And like the fool you are lapping it up! 1. You are absolutely correct, that the social media celebrity violent criminal Al Qadi saw fit to manage Bristol Rovers is on a serious charm offensive, to win hearts and minds, and to be cited in court this summer in his defence. Those convinced by this are indeed being manipulated by the thug, and should see through such publicity stunts better, I agree. 2. Calling Towngas a fool is unwarranted and beneath you. Dignity and decency, remember. You could apologise. 3. Your twenty-seven emojis (I did count them) are unworthy of someone of your high office, Emperor. I think we will see a restrained and superficially charming Joey Barton for now, while he remains on bail charged with a violent offence. Superficial charm is the most important skill of any high-functioning psychopath.
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Post by towngas on Feb 28, 2021 13:07:24 GMT
So what you’re asking us to believe is that Garner, an obscure and inexperienced reserve and youth team coach didn’t deserve to be fired. You’re then saying that Tisdale, a perennial failure as a League 1 manager who managed to win perhaps 2 out of his 12 games in charge didn’t deserve to be fired either? I have to wonder what your definition of failure is. I think Waels failure was in appointing those two clowns, both of whom were devoid of any passion or personality, and who spoke in some weird kind of manager speak that left most people baffled. They have been replaced by someone who talks common sense and has both passion and personality. Yet you are happy to ride around on your white horse on some kind of moral crusade, hoping the club continues to fail. Unbelievable. You’re assuming that Tisdale was picking the team. Based on the noises around the place I don’t think that is entirely a given. It seems likely to me that Tisdale’s task was hindered by having to work with Widdrington. That being said that doesn’t completely absolve him, he was undoubtedly the wrong choice of manager but it seems the structure in place was not geared towards helping him be successful either. What noises? You’re asking me to believe that Tisdale was having the team picked for him? Do ,e a favour, for Heavens sake!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2021 13:11:51 GMT
You’re asking me to believe that Tisdale was having the team picked for him? There are credible suggestions that the Football Director acted to interfere and then to undermine Paul Tisdale. Certainly Widdrington had no hesitation in burning Tisdale to the media at his first caretaker conference.
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Post by One F in Dunford on Feb 28, 2021 13:13:55 GMT
Anyone who wants Bristol Rovers Football Club to lose a game of football, is not a supporter of Bristol Rovers Football Club.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2021 13:15:36 GMT
Anyone who wants Bristol Rovers Football Club to lose a game of football, is not a supporter of Bristol Rovers Football Club. I am not a supporter of Bristol Rovers Football Club while Barton is manager, correct.
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Post by towngas on Feb 28, 2021 13:15:55 GMT
This modern era of Twittersphere seems to be a big issue to us as well. It seems you can be worse than rubbish at politics and football management and civil society in general yet end up in the White House as leader of free world, or as leader of Bristol Rovers leading the Gas World - on the strength of nowt but your TWITTER box office!!! Don't do twitter so assume this little barb wasn’t aimed at me. The played one.
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Post by One F in Dunford on Feb 28, 2021 13:18:56 GMT
Anyone who wants Bristol Rovers Football Club to lose a game of football, is not a supporter of Bristol Rovers Football Club. I am not a supporter of Bristol Rovers Football Club while Barton is manager, correct. Some of us are supporters for life.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 28, 2021 13:19:12 GMT
Joey is a nice guy and thats about it Standard interview. Disappointed with the leading questions, but as long as the propaganda projects everything is fine, what could possibly go wrong? I can’t be alone in thinking Starnes appearance is just unacceptable, can I ? I know Wael turned away one of the SC guys when he tried to give him a tie but this goes way beyond that. He looks absolutely awful and like he really can’t be bothered to make an effort.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2021 13:20:39 GMT
You’re assuming that Tisdale was picking the team. Based on the noises around the place I don’t think that is entirely a given. It seems likely to me that Tisdale’s task was hindered by having to work with Widdrington. That being said that doesn’t completely absolve him, he was undoubtedly the wrong choice of manager but it seems the structure in place was not geared towards helping him be successful either. What noises? You’re asking me to believe that Tisdale was having the team picked for him? Do ,e a favour, for Heavens sake! From reading Holloway’s comments, Tisdale’s comments and seeing how Widdrington came across in the press both before and after his cameo appearance as manager. Widdrington has a raging ego, believes 100% in the quality of his recruitment and it seems patently clear that Tisdale did not. That is a concoction ripe for Widdrington, at the very least, to have interfered with Tisdale’s ability to do his job. So on that basis was Holloway fabricating nonsense? There is a fair likelihood of truth imo. Barton however, is the golden child and will have full autonomy. I’m fact, I expect he will be doing Widdrington’s job in due course.
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Post by towngas on Feb 28, 2021 13:21:07 GMT
You’re asking me to believe that Tisdale was having the team picked for him? There are credible suggestions that the Football Director acted to interfere and then to undermine Paul Tisdale. Certainly Widdrington had no hesitation in burning Tisdale to the media at his first caretaker conference. Perhaps he was just trying to repair the confidence of young strikers destroyed by that glove wearing, germ-adverse pansy who was laughingly referred to as a manager. What credible sources, or just horse-borne crusaders desperately trying to discredit the appointment of a manager who doesn’t fit their high standards. Being of impeccable character, whom you could leave in a Crystal Palace with a whole pile of house bricks, safe in the knowledge you could return the next day and find not one pane broken.
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Post by towngas on Feb 28, 2021 13:23:47 GMT
What noises? You’re asking me to believe that Tisdale was having the team picked for him? Do ,e a favour, for Heavens sake! From reading Holloway’s comments, Tisdale’s comments and seeing how Widdrington came across in the press both before and after his cameo appearance as manager. Widdrington has a raging ego, believes 100% in the quality of his recruitment and it seems patently clear that Tisdale did not. That is a concoction ripe for Widdrington, at the very least, to have interfered with Tisdale’s ability to do his job. So on that basis was Holloway fabricating nonsense? There is a fair likelihood of truth imo. Barton however, is the golden child and will have full autonomy. I’m fact, I expect he will be doing Widdrington’s job in due course. F****** Holloway? You lost all credibility when you mentioned that charlatans name. He’s already moved on in his nonsensical column, wishing Barton and Rovers every success.
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