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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2022 12:49:18 GMT
You can skew anything you like with statistics. Why not ask a proper statistician? We definitely have at least one o here.
This thread is petty prejudice.
Bloody touchy admins on minor message boards.
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Post by eppinggas on Sept 20, 2022 15:39:04 GMT
You can skew anything you like with statistics. Why not ask a proper statistician? We definitely have at least one o here. This thread is petty prejudice. Bloody touchy admins on minor message boards. Not really Doctor. If you are asked to research a specific topic within a specified time period - in this case the historic average place in the football league of Bristol Rovers in the last 64 and 20 years, you have to deal with things called 'facts'. You know, things that are unarguable like the finishing place each year of the Club in question. You can't skew anything. You could look at the results of the research in a more 'positive' light if you wanted. For example: the last couple of years. A relegation from League 1 and a promotion from League 2 is almost exactly what you would expect. Because this is what the 20 year record suggests. A yo-yo Club between tiers 3 and 4. Therefore one could argue that Barton is no better, and no worse, than the average manager over the last 20 year period. Let me know if you need any more help with your homework. Not touchy. Just looking at the 'facts'. Regards, Statto.
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Post by baselswh on Sept 20, 2022 15:58:55 GMT
You can skew anything you like with statistics. Why not ask a proper statistician? We definitely have at least one o here. This thread is petty prejudice. Bloody touchy admins on minor message boards. Not really Doctor. If you are asked to research a specific topic within a specified time period - in this case the historic average place in the football league of Bristol Rovers in the last 64 and 20 years, you have to deal with things called 'facts'. You know, things that are unarguable like the finishing place each year of the Club in question. You can't skew anything. You could look at the results of the research in a more 'positive' light if you wanted. For example: the last couple of years. A relegation from League 1 and a promotion from League 2 is almost exactly what you would expect. Because this is what the 20 year record suggests. A yo-yo Club between tiers 3 and 4. Therefore one could argue that Barton is no better, and no worse, than the average manager over the last 20 year period. Let me know if you need any more help with your homework. Not touchy. Just looking at the 'facts'. Regards, Statto. Is'nt all the Admin team anti Barton or at least ar'nt at all keen on him Epping? The title of this thread,maybe it's about time it changed. You're anti Barton,Sprout ain't keen,nor is Chesh,Alf don't like himetc.
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Post by Bath Gas on Sept 20, 2022 21:04:25 GMT
It must be very hard to try and run a business that is losing £11,000 a day when you employ someone to run that business sensibly but is totally out of control and your terrified of challenging his outspoken deluded public utterances. Hopefully a District Judge on November 1st might well be of assistance in reintroducing control to those who have to meet this colossal weekly financial burden. Ah, I do enjoy a good fairytale
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Post by Cheshiregas on Sept 21, 2022 7:55:56 GMT
Not really Doctor. If you are asked to research a specific topic within a specified time period - in this case the historic average place in the football league of Bristol Rovers in the last 64 and 20 years, you have to deal with things called 'facts'. You know, things that are unarguable like the finishing place each year of the Club in question. You can't skew anything. You could look at the results of the research in a more 'positive' light if you wanted. For example: the last couple of years. A relegation from League 1 and a promotion from League 2 is almost exactly what you would expect. Because this is what the 20 year record suggests. A yo-yo Club between tiers 3 and 4. Therefore one could argue that Barton is no better, and no worse, than the average manager over the last 20 year period. Let me know if you need any more help with your homework. Not touchy. Just looking at the 'facts'. Regards, Statto. Is'nt all the Admin team anti Barton or at least ar'nt at all keen on him Epping? The title of this thread,maybe it's about time it changed. You're anti Barton,Sprout ain't keen,nor is Chesh,Alf don't like himetc. Whatever our feelings about Barton, that never clouds the way we admin the forum. Epping here is giving facts about a period as he was asked. He is not manipulating them just presenting them as requested. Others may hold a differing opinion but that doesn't change the facts as presented. It's a bit like Question Time having a scientist quoting facts about climate change and Nigel Farage challenging it with an opinion. The opinion doesn't change the facts although many may believe he is right because they hold the same opinion. Regards Cheshire PS the title of the thread was not chosen by an admin. We only change titles if they break forum rules.
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Post by oldie on Sept 21, 2022 8:13:03 GMT
Is'nt all the Admin team anti Barton or at least ar'nt at all keen on him Epping? The title of this thread,maybe it's about time it changed. You're anti Barton,Sprout ain't keen,nor is Chesh,Alf don't like himetc. Whatever our feelings about Barton, that never clouds the way we admin the forum. Epping here is giving facts about a period as he was asked. He is not manipulating them just presenting them as requested. Others may hold a differing opinion but that doesn't change the facts as presented. It's a bit like Question Time having a scientist quoting facts about climate change and Nigel Farage challenging it with an opinion. The opinion doesn't change the facts although many may believe he is right because they hold the same opinion. Regards Cheshire PS the title of the thread was not chosen by an admin. We only change titles if they break forum rules. Logic cast on stoney ground Cheshire.
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Post by eppinggas on Sept 21, 2022 8:59:17 GMT
Not really Doctor. If you are asked to research a specific topic within a specified time period - in this case the historic average place in the football league of Bristol Rovers in the last 64 and 20 years, you have to deal with things called 'facts'. You know, things that are unarguable like the finishing place each year of the Club in question. You can't skew anything. You could look at the results of the research in a more 'positive' light if you wanted. For example: the last couple of years. A relegation from League 1 and a promotion from League 2 is almost exactly what you would expect. Because this is what the 20 year record suggests. A yo-yo Club between tiers 3 and 4. Therefore one could argue that Barton is no better, and no worse, than the average manager over the last 20 year period. Let me know if you need any more help with your homework. Not touchy. Just looking at the 'facts'. Regards, Statto. Is'nt all the Admin team anti Barton or at least ar'nt at all keen on him Epping? The title of this thread,maybe it's about time it changed. You're anti Barton,Sprout ain't keen,nor is Chesh,Alf don't like himetc. Of course I can only speak for myself. I have withdrawn any active support for Bristol Rovers FC in protest at the decision to hire him. irishrover has the same stance. A great shame for the Club to lose supporters like him - I think he has just walked away. I am pretty sure that Peter Parker, JeffNZ and Cheshiregas all didn't want him here in the first place, but are resigned to him staying for the foreseeable, so that doesn't stop them supporting the Club. (Please correct me if I'm wrong chaps). I don't believe anyone in the Moderation Team is a fully paid up member of the Barton Fan Club.
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Post by baselswh on Sept 21, 2022 9:24:34 GMT
Is'nt all the Admin team anti Barton or at least ar'nt at all keen on him Epping? The title of this thread,maybe it's about time it changed. You're anti Barton,Sprout ain't keen,nor is Chesh,Alf don't like himetc. Whatever our feelings about Barton, that never clouds the way we admin the forum. Epping here is giving facts about a period as he was asked. He is not manipulating them just presenting them as requested. Others may hold a differing opinion but that doesn't change the facts as presented. It's a bit like Question Time having a scientist quoting facts about climate change and Nigel Farage challenging it with an opinion. The opinion doesn't change the facts although many may believe he is right because they hold the same opinion. Regards Cheshire PS the title of the thread was not chosen by an admin. We only change titles if they break forum rules. 😏 Have you left the church and moved into politics?
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Post by Cheshiregas on Sept 21, 2022 9:41:20 GMT
Whatever our feelings about Barton, that never clouds the way we admin the forum. Epping here is giving facts about a period as he was asked. He is not manipulating them just presenting them as requested. Others may hold a differing opinion but that doesn't change the facts as presented. It's a bit like Question Time having a scientist quoting facts about climate change and Nigel Farage challenging it with an opinion. The opinion doesn't change the facts although many may believe he is right because they hold the same opinion. Regards Cheshire PS the title of the thread was not chosen by an admin. We only change titles if they break forum rules. 😏 Have you left the church and moved into politics? No, I am still a local preacher with the Methodist Church actively promoting people putting words into actions! Encouraging people to help those who are directly suffering from the actions of this Government. Some of our churches are in very deprived areas and the foodbanks are struggling so we are working with other churches to prepare for the greater needs expected this winter. As for JB - Epping sums it up for me. I didn't want him here with his reputation. That said, everyone deserves another chance which I have given him after he joined. Football wise he has shown he can work in League Two, not sure yet about League One. Personally, it's not for me to judge as he doesn't impact me directly. Some of his actions and statements since joining have concerned me from the club's perspective. He appears to still be a ticking time bomb at times but then I've met Irish terrorists [from both sides] who have changed their ways so there is always hope.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 21, 2022 10:26:05 GMT
It must be very hard to try and run a business that is losing £11,000 a day when you employ someone to run that business sensibly but is totally out of control and your terrified of challenging his outspoken deluded public utterances. Hopefully a District Judge on November 1st might well be of assistance in reintroducing control to those who have to meet this colossal weekly financial burden. Ah, I do enjoy a good fairytale Imagine, running a club who is already losing around 3 million pa then having to pay for the training facility to be changed and added to plus trying to get a stadium for said club. As the family are in finance then I’d imagine they are not that keen on underwriting continual losses plus then building a stadium and sorting the training facility. It’s no fairy tale but more a horror story, think about it
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Post by Bath Gas on Sept 21, 2022 11:43:01 GMT
Ah, I do enjoy a good fairytale Imagine, running a club who is already losing around 3 million pa then having to pay for the training facility to be changed and added to plus trying to get a stadium for said club. As the family are in finance then I’d imagine they are not that keen on underwriting continual losses plus then building a stadium and sorting the training facility. It’s no fairy tale but more a horror story, think about it My understanding is that expanding the training ground was always part of the long term plan. The new stadium has been a bit of a horror story for various Boards in the past, particularly the Wonga loan.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2022 12:08:59 GMT
You're wasting your time Bath Gas.
We joined the league in the 1920s. Is there not a league table of tables from then?
Someone else can look though, as I don't need a lecture from the patronising moderator. 👍
As always, UTFG. 🏴☠️
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Post by baselswh on Sept 21, 2022 12:55:04 GMT
😏 Have you left the church and moved into politics? No, I am still a local preacher with the Methodist Church actively promoting people putting words into actions! Encouraging people to help those who are directly suffering from the actions of this Government. Some of our churches are in very deprived areas and the foodbanks are struggling so we are working with other churches to prepare for the greater needs expected this winter. As for JB - Epping sums it up for me. I didn't want him here with his reputation. That said, everyone deserves another chance which I have given him after he joined. Football wise he has shown he can work in League Two, not sure yet about League One. Personally, it's not for me to judge as he doesn't impact me directly. Some of his actions and statements since joining have concerned me from the club's perspective. He appears to still be a ticking time bomb at times but then I've met Irish terrorists [from both sides] who have changed their ways so there is always hope. Well I think Bristol Rovers manager deserve more respect than this thread title. Shame you and the other Admin people think it acceptable. Last season was one of Rovers greatest,yet this irreverent title remains. Poor show.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Sept 21, 2022 13:45:08 GMT
No, I am still a local preacher with the Methodist Church actively promoting people putting words into actions! Encouraging people to help those who are directly suffering from the actions of this Government. Some of our churches are in very deprived areas and the foodbanks are struggling so we are working with other churches to prepare for the greater needs expected this winter. As for JB - Epping sums it up for me. I didn't want him here with his reputation. That said, everyone deserves another chance which I have given him after he joined. Football wise he has shown he can work in League Two, not sure yet about League One. Personally, it's not for me to judge as he doesn't impact me directly. Some of his actions and statements since joining have concerned me from the club's perspective. He appears to still be a ticking time bomb at times but then I've met Irish terrorists [from both sides] who have changed their ways so there is always hope. Well I think Bristol Rovers manager deserve more respect than this thread title. Shame you and the other Admin people think it acceptable. Last season was one of Rovers greatest, yet this irreverent title remains. Poor show. Respect works both ways Bas, and I appreciate that you have a low opinion of the Admin team which is often reflected in your comments. A number of your comments towards us have been quite disrespectful, mainly because we disagree with you on JB. No one else has asked for it to be changed and the original poster isn't around to change it. If others want it changed it can be altered but the thread has been running a very long time without anyone else complaining. Should we change things just to suit one person? Are you now the arbiter of threads? I appreciate your sentiment and your opinion [to which you are entitled] but will wait to see what others say.
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Post by baselswh on Sept 21, 2022 13:55:24 GMT
Well I think Bristol Rovers manager deserve more respect than this thread title. Shame you and the other Admin people think it acceptable. Last season was one of Rovers greatest, yet this irreverent title remains. Poor show. Respect works both ways Bas, and I appreciate that you have a low opinion of the Admin team which is often reflected in your comments. A number of your comments towards us have been quite disrespectful, mainly because we disagree with you on JB. No one else has asked for it to be changed and the original poster isn't around to change it. If others want it changed it can be altered but the thread has been running a very long time without anyone else complaining. Should we change things just to suit one person? Are you now the arbiter of threads? I appreciate your sentiment and your opinion [to which you are entitled] but will wait to see what others say. I don't mind you lot,just disagree now and again.Also,if I disagree with one of the Admin,it does'nt necessarily mean I disagree with all of Admin. I appreciate someone has to keep an eye on things around here. Bristol Rovers manager deserves better than this thread title.
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Post by eppinggas on Sept 21, 2022 14:10:27 GMT
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Post by lostinspace on Sept 21, 2022 14:26:39 GMT
Respect works both ways Bas, and I appreciate that you have a low opinion of the Admin team which is often reflected in your comments. A number of your comments towards us have been quite disrespectful, mainly because we disagree with you on JB. No one else has asked for it to be changed and the original poster isn't around to change it. If others want it changed it can be altered but the thread has been running a very long time without anyone else complaining. Should we change things just to suit one person? Are you now the arbiter of threads? I appreciate your sentiment and your opinion [to which you are entitled] but will wait to see what others say. I don't mind you lot,just disagree now and again.Also,if I disagree with one of the Admin,it does'nt necessarily mean I disagree with all of Admin. I appreciate someone has to keep an eye on things around here. Bristol Rovers manager deserves better than this thread title. Unless I have missed any previous objection to the thread label it has taken you 18months to disagree with it's title.....🤔
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Post by rideintothesun on Sept 21, 2022 14:53:26 GMT
Well I think Bristol Rovers manager deserve more respect than this thread title. Shame you and the other Admin people think it acceptable. Last season was one of Rovers greatest, yet this irreverent title remains. Poor show. Respect works both ways Bas, and I appreciate that you have a low opinion of the Admin team which is often reflected in your comments. A number of your comments towards us have been quite disrespectful, mainly because we disagree with you on JB. No one else has asked for it to be changed and the original poster isn't around to change it. If others want it changed it can be altered but the thread has been running a very long time without anyone else complaining. Should we change things just to suit one person? Are you now the arbiter of threads? I appreciate your sentiment and your opinion [to which you are entitled] but will wait to see what others say. I'd add an 'utterly' to the title.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 21, 2022 15:29:54 GMT
So.....14th in our division, then?! Sounds about right.
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 21, 2022 15:42:25 GMT
No, I am still a local preacher with the Methodist Church actively promoting people putting words into actions! Encouraging people to help those who are directly suffering from the actions of this Government. Some of our churches are in very deprived areas and the foodbanks are struggling so we are working with other churches to prepare for the greater needs expected this winter. As for JB - Epping sums it up for me. I didn't want him here with his reputation. That said, everyone deserves another chance which I have given him after he joined. Football wise he has shown he can work in League Two, not sure yet about League One. Personally, it's not for me to judge as he doesn't impact me directly. Some of his actions and statements since joining have concerned me from the club's perspective. He appears to still be a ticking time bomb at times but then I've met Irish terrorists [from both sides] who have changed their ways so there is always hope. Well I think Bristol Rovers manager deserve more respect than this thread title. Shame you and the other Admin people think it acceptable. Last season was one of Rovers greatest,yet this irreverent title remains. Poor show. You earn respect. You can’t demand it, it is given by others freely. If others tell you to respect something...... UTG!
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