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Post by The Concept on Sept 18, 2018 19:33:01 GMT
I was losing track with all various different rumours going round: - Club being sold / Current owners staying with additional investors ... - Mem redeveloped / UWE back on / Stadium at Filton alongside an Arena / Stadium at The Colony instead of training ground ... - New investors from: Southampton / Isle of Man / China / Malaysia / Dyson / Hargreaves … I was supposing someone somewhere will eventually guess close. But now I have finally heard the definitive answer to our questions: the Yanks are coming! Yes, I can reveal that a wealthy businessman from the US is looking to add to his sporting empire in the UK - he already owns a golf course in Scotland. He was quoted as saying: "I will build a great stadium - and nobody builds stadia better than me, believe me - and I'll build them very inexpensively. I will build a great, great stadium for the Rovers, north of the river, and I will make the City pay for that stadium. Mark my words." Made I laugh. Best I’ve read in awhile. Thank you for making me smile I'll be honest KP, I nicked the idea from a Radio Bristol trailer: "I'm gonna build an arena for Bristol, and I'm gonna make Bath pay for it." At least I tried to use the whole transcript.  |
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Sept 18, 2018 20:28:17 GMT
The post article on Dyson seems pretty balanced. The guy they now got covering the gas is pretty good isn’t he? comments below what the post is saying about investments there’s challenge to provide greater balance and education for neutral reader. And someone adds of Dyson, unlike his merchandise he’s no sucker.
I’m not sure how crazy the idea was. He’s 71? These days thats new 63, so still a young man. Firstly I am thinking of only fools and horses, when they became millionaires and how bored they quickly got. Several mansions around the world and a big plush boat, I’d soon be completely bored to be honest with you. You cant be buried with £10B, cant take it with you when, as Woody Guthrie said the little black train comes down the track.
And then there are precedents, previous captains of industry and entrepreneurship who proved themselves and all that, but then urge of leaving a broader legacy. What Jack Walker done at Blackburn, and Sir John Hall at Newcastle.
Hall being a good example, these days he’s big supporter of Durham Councils push to bring proper good paying 21st century jobs into the area. Someone like Dyson could be thinking of leaving a broad and positive legacy to be remembered by.
The Dyson Stadium, next to UWE? Whilst not owning the land so not building hotel put off current owners, not owning the land and funding the Dyson Faculty of Engineering might tickle someone else’s fancy as the fitting legacy.
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Post by LPGas on Sept 21, 2018 0:57:40 GMT
Dyson is a rugby man, also a family man and that is where his money will go
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 12:15:06 GMT
To be fair to Paul I also used to drink in there and a sometimes the city lot were there too but I wouldn't say that I used to drink with them,ignore them more like. Tony R and I were young skinheads back then and we did talk to Itch a couple of times in the Assizes,he was older than us and talked about earlier skinhead times,seemed a good bloke (for a ****head).
scary when you look back and reflect how long ago that was mind, wally loved his clothes, i vividly recall a green checked suit he had around that time Yes a very long time ago,the last time I was in there was the night before Bobby Goulds Rovers debut in October 77 ! it was like a saloon fight scene in an old western that night. |
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Post by badbloodash on Sept 22, 2018 17:19:51 GMT
scary when you look back and reflect how long ago that was mind, wally loved his clothes, i vividly recall a green checked suit he had around that time Yes a very long time ago,the last time I was in there was the night before Bobby Goulds Rovers debut in October 77 ! it was like a saloon fight scene in an old western that night. Pretty sure I was about that night in between the golden triangle of the wheatsheaf beer Keller and the Rupert probably the most dangerous place in town in those days with us the teds and gangs of valley commandos waiting for their co@ches punks weren’t very popular in the bars in town so could only drink in those few |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 23, 2018 13:03:33 GMT
Why is there now a time limit, a very small one at that, in which to edit posts please @adimin ? I saw I missed a comma only to get the message times up. It’s enough to make one paranoid that the forum has been told not to allow editing incase the club wish to use a post as some form of evidence. Really, around 10 minutes ago I posted only to be told times up. I really don’t like this. I’ve only ever twice removed entire posts and that was due to me realising I had posted while in a bad place. Bad times Amusing to me KP that you are fretting over a missing comma, considering the state of half of the illiterate reprobates on here - including myself. Keep up the good work, I enjoy reading your posts. Ditto PessimistGas. You, as they say, are keeping it real. I hear a lot of people say I only want the truth but, when told it, they will either then ignore you or try to bellttle and berate. I’m lucky to have decent people around me and I can be totally open with them. Keep up the good work mate |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 23, 2018 13:06:00 GMT
That’s no bet though, is it ? Unless I have totally misread and misconstrued the situation then the charge against the only asset covers that. I’m kind of hoping there is a more palatable and maybe protective reason for it because, on the face of it, it very much looks like a covernote to me. I was tolerant up until I saw the clubs latest set of figures and it set of lots of horrible thoughts and especially the office in Laaandaaan plus the amount held in the clubs current account. Fact is, & I’ve now fully reconciled to it, we know nothing and it will remain that way until this changes. The saying be careful what you wish for comes to mind. What bothers me most is the momentum we had, going in our favour and how the club didn’t take full advantage of that. I doubt I will ever know such a position as we had in that period and I truly believe that this was the time to spend a little to gain a lot. I’d imagine that, with hindsight, the owners must feel the same way or at least I hope they would. Not since the Watney cup days and promotion, under Don Megson, have I felt that optimistic. I’d be ok now so long as we saw the players show the same level of effort but heads do now drop and we are crying out for real leadership on the pitch. It was such a pleasure to see every single player step up when we had the double promotion sides. Maybe we are better off with so called worse players, on paper, though with more to prove. Although not everyone’s cup of tea but if every player had the attitude of Stuart Sinclair then we would be in a better position ?. Well a charge is protection. If a takeover is happening, i very much doubt a charge would be allowed to remain on The Mem on the owners new asset, from the new owners, but all would come down to how, what, when and where is agreed that any debt is repaid to Dwane, much like NH got paid in chunks apparently I can only add that his next door neighbour has told me that it is now paid but, yes, it was paid in instalments. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 16:25:12 GMT
Yes a very long time ago,the last time I was in there was the night before Bobby Goulds Rovers debut in October 77 ! it was like a saloon fight scene in an old western that night. Pretty sure I was about that night in between the golden triangle of the wheatsheaf beer Keller and the Rupert probably the most dangerous place in town in those days with us the teds and gangs of valley commandos waiting for their co@ches punks weren’t very popular in the bars in town so could only drink in those few Yes the Taffs were always about then I bet the Police loved the weekends,remember the "riot squad" ? all big lumps in a long wheel based Landrover cruising around the centre Friday and Saturday nights. I remember when they all grew beards,looked like an Ian Botham lookalikes convention.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 25, 2018 11:26:10 GMT
As long as their well dressed and displaying sartorial elegance as posted above we would clearly be in good hands. Jestes z kurwy syn. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 25, 2018 11:31:48 GMT
Pete Townsend was never charged with anything. Or is your personal kangaroo court apparently the right one? I don't know who Pete Townsend is, but Townshend was placed on the sex offenders' register for what he did. Shame you seem to want to defend someone who paid to download kiddy porn, guess we all have our own standards. Something my wonderful father used to say. You may know who people are but you never know what they are. I’ve been around some genuine extremely bad people, when much younger yet they appeared kind, generous & good guys. You just never know who & what you are dealing with. |
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Sept 25, 2018 12:18:36 GMT
Did you know what your father was?
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 27, 2018 9:57:57 GMT
Did you know what your father was? Oh hell yes. He had an aura of invincibility around him. This is the man who survived the gulags of Siberia, weighing just 77 pounds yet just refused to die. I wish ALL on here could have met him. He was gentle, kind and had no open signs of any aggression but when we walked into the Polish club, people just parted if in his path. I was blessed to have been to Normandy with him and heard so many stories of heroic acts by him. He was, put quite simply, the most incredible man I’ve known and not said because he was my Father. People laughed with dad but never at him. He was an incredibly capable man & one not to toy with, though his exterior belied that. Simply put I knew exactly what my father was. I just wish I had learned much quicker, the lessons he * tried * to give me. Bit of a daft question though, eh mate ? |
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Post by a more piratey game on Sept 27, 2018 11:48:36 GMT
from the Other Place this morning.....
Had an interesting chat with someone this morning who is pretty close to Steve Hamer. It was a bit of an insight.
He says that Hamer feels completely in the dark most of the time and there is very little communication between family and chairman.
It’is definitely Hani’s show now regarding the financials and decision making. Wael is nothing more than family representation. There was a complete underestimation on the ALQs part as to actually how much it costs to run the club and that they can see that any further investment would not be returned sufficiently they are simply keeping the club afloat and definately want out. They have no plans to build the colony, stadium or redevelop the Mem to any great degree. They will possibly look to sell everything as a job lot.
He also said Hamer knew nothing about the appointment of Martin Starnes either...and that it was Hani’s decision to appoint him. Strange that.
He said he feels something is going on regarding a sale, but has no concrete evidence of it and has been told nothing is happening for the foreseeable future but if there was a buyer then it would be considered.
There was greater depth to the things that were said but this is all I have time to type right now and was the gist of the conversation.
Certainly stacks up against everything we think that is “rumoured” to be happening.
it would explain DC's grumpiness, Hamer's low profile, Wael's waffling, the lack of any action on the big stuff
but just because it's plausible doesn't mean it's true
'nothing is happening for the foreseeable future' doesn't tie in logically with all the rest though. I think that's Hamer bluffing or being kept in the dark. But what do I know?
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Sept 27, 2018 12:01:35 GMT
Did you know what your father was? Oh hell yes. He had an aura of invincibility around him. This is the man who survived the gulags of Siberia, weighing just 77 pounds yet just refused to die. I wish ALL on here could have met him. He was gentle, kind and had no open signs of any aggression but when we walked into the Polish club, people just parted if in his path. I was blessed to have been to Normandy with him and heard so many stories of heroic acts by him. He was, put quite simply, the most incredible man I’ve known and not said because he was my Father. People laughed with dad but never at him. He was an incredibly capable man & one not to toy with, though his exterior belied that. Simply put I knew exactly what my father was. I just wish I had learned much quicker, the lessons he * tried * to give me. Bit of a daft question though, eh mate ? Not really, I know you a lot better now. A woman in our street escaped from a German concentration camp and made her way through occupied territory for weeks before ending up in Bristol where she married and raised a family. I can't even begin to imagine what she and your father went through, but experiences like that make for humble and very thankful souls. |
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Post by vaughan on Sept 27, 2018 12:09:01 GMT
The AlQs want out.
Due diligence from new owner in progress.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 12:39:53 GMT
The AlQs want out. Due diligence from new owner in progress. Where's this from please? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 12:45:43 GMT
from the Other Place this morning..... Had an interesting chat with someone this morning who is pretty close to Steve Hamer. It was a bit of an insight.
He says that Hamer feels completely in the dark most of the time and there is very little communication between family and chairman.
It’is definitely Hani’s show now regarding the financials and decision making. Wael is nothing more than family representation. There was a complete underestimation on the ALQs part as to actually how much it costs to run the club and that they can see that any further investment would not be returned sufficiently they are simply keeping the club afloat and definately want out. They have no plans to build the colony, stadium or redevelop the Mem to any great degree. They will possibly look to sell everything as a job lot.
He also said Hamer knew nothing about the appointment of Martin Starnes either...and that it was Hani’s decision to appoint him. Strange that.
He said he feels something is going on regarding a sale, but has no concrete evidence of it and has been told nothing is happening for the foreseeable future but if there was a buyer then it would be considered.
There was greater depth to the things that were said but this is all I have time to type right now and was the gist of the conversation.
Certainly stacks up against everything we think that is “rumoured” to be happening.
it would explain DC's grumpiness, Hamer's low profile, Wael's waffling, the lack of any action on the big stuff
but just because it's plausible doesn't mean it's true
'nothing is happening for the foreseeable future' doesn't tie in logically with all the rest though. I think that's Hamer bluffing or being kept in the dark. But what do I know?All of that ties up with what people I respect have told me other than Starnes was a Wael appointment and Hamer knew nothing of it prior or the appointment. |
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Post by eppinggas on Sept 27, 2018 12:58:30 GMT
The AlQs want out. Due diligence from new owner in progress. IMHO they wanted out pretty much as soon as UWE failed. It was the only thing that made any sense. The only thing (in my mind) that didn't add up was the amount spent on 'senior management' and the London office. This amounts to extremely expensive window dressing for a potential buyer. I'm sure it takes a long time to sell a football Club. I am hopeful the new owners will do a better job with due diligence and we can actually move forward as a football Club. UTG. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 13:20:29 GMT
The AlQs want out. Due diligence from new owner in progress. IMHO they wanted out pretty much as soon as UWE failed. It was the only thing that made any sense. The only thing (in my mind) that didn't add up was the amount spent on 'senior management' and the London office. This amounts to extremely expensive window dressing for a potential buyer. I'm sure it takes a long time to sell a football Club. I am hopeful the new owners will do a better job with due diligence and we can actually move forward as a football Club. UTG. I think they wanted out before UWE failed. |
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Post by vaughan on Sept 27, 2018 13:58:26 GMT
There was a strong rumour ref why UWE were genuinely surprised that Rovers pulled out. It was because UWE asked for some proof of financial commitment and this was not forthcoming.
I now believe that UWE was no more than an opportunity in Alq's eyes.
Once that became less attractive as an investment opportunity in Hani's eyes, they were left with club that Hani did not value or want to own. Wael meanwhile was trying to forge his reputation in the football world - hence the obfuscation.
Trust, honesty..another chapter in the BRFC book of Expectation Management.
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