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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 19:43:52 GMT
I''m not going to post the reason why as a bit like Ben Garner had, it's a personal family matter and you wouldn't be so quick to stir the pot if you knew the exact reason. And Im fully aware of how ITK that sounds, but it isn't with that intent. Its not for me to disclose but if any of us here were in the same boat, we would all be doing exactly the same. I think you missed KP's jest about Wael being in Jordan (Katie Price) I'm sure he didn't intend to offend Wael and his family. Agreed. KP has his share of health problems, if he thought for 1 second that Wael was there with an unwell family member I'm sure he would send his support and best wishes.
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Post by irenestoyboy on Jan 28, 2020 21:06:32 GMT
I think you missed KP's jest about Wael being in Jordan (Katie Price) I'm sure he didn't intend to offend Wael and his family. Agreed. KP has his share of health problems, if he thought for 1 second that Wael was there with an unwell family member I'm sure he would send his support and best wishes. If I did then I apologise. That was lost on me!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 21:09:23 GMT
Agreed. KP has his share of health problems, if he thought for 1 second that Wael was there with an unwell family member I'm sure he would send his support and best wishes. If I did then I apologise. That was lost on me! No, nothing to do with you, it was Vertigo who assumed the worst and waded in. I'm sure that KP will be along soon and will apologise for any misunderstanding, he's one of the calmer characters on here and wouldn't even think of saying anything out of place if he thought for a moment that Wael had an unwell family member.
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 29, 2020 9:50:15 GMT
As you say Bamber. KP will have strong views and will express them but if he ever misunderstands or posts something “incorrect” he always apologises. Have great respect for him. UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 9:58:01 GMT
When people say KP do they mean Kingswood Polak or Katie Price?
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Post by Delsy on Jan 29, 2020 10:28:08 GMT
Or even Kevin Pietersen ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 12:28:37 GMT
Or even Kevin Pietersen ? Or cliche Manc bore, Karl Pilkington.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jan 29, 2020 12:59:31 GMT
It would seem to me that the answer lies in your post. Wael in Jordan, for the foreseeable future. Dear lord, that is just wrong and on so many levels that I’m not going to list. So much for having such passion for the club 😟 I''m not going to post the reason why as a bit like Ben Garner had, it's a personal family matter and you wouldn't be so quick to stir the pot if you knew the exact reason. And Im fully aware of how ITK that sounds, but it isn't with that intent. Its not for me to disclose but if any of us here were in the same boat, we would all be doing exactly the same. I know the reason but haven’t mentioned it until this, I would apologise if I had done anything wrong but I’m glad our regular posters know me well enough to have made the comments they have. I would not have mentioned it if it had not been posted about.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 14:18:45 GMT
I''m not going to post the reason why as a bit like Ben Garner had, it's a personal family matter and you wouldn't be so quick to stir the pot if you knew the exact reason. And Im fully aware of how ITK that sounds, but it isn't with that intent. Its not for me to disclose but if any of us here were in the same boat, we would all be doing exactly the same. I know the reason but haven’t mentioned it until this, I would apologise if I had done anything wrong but I’m glad our regular posters know me well enough to have made the comments they have. I would not have mentioned it if it had not been posted about. The perfect gentleman as always KP. Everybody who has followed you on here knows you well enough to understand that there's not an ounce of malice in you.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jan 29, 2020 17:46:51 GMT
I know the reason but haven’t mentioned it until this, I would apologise if I had done anything wrong but I’m glad our regular posters know me well enough to have made the comments they have. I would not have mentioned it if it had not been posted about. The perfect gentleman as always KP. Everybody who has followed you on here knows you well enough to understand that there's not an ounce of malice in you. Thank you and to the others. I don’t now get drawn into the silly stuff & hope it doesn’t invade here.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 20:34:19 GMT
The perfect gentleman as always KP. Everybody who has followed you on here knows you well enough to understand that there's not an ounce of malice in you. Thank you and to the others. I don’t now get drawn into the silly stuff & hope it doesn’t invade here. In that case, I'll get my coat.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jan 29, 2020 23:17:05 GMT
I’d guess because , being a moderator would give the login email addresses and maybe names ? I know knowall/Fanatical and I have both freely given our identities as, for me anyway, it wouldn’t take much to know who I am. Its worth nothing that on GC where first names are used, its because the poster has disclosed them, and where there has been a conversation where that is used. Yes mods can see email addresses, but rarely does that disclose the name unless its obviously in the email address itself. For example, its hard to know who someone is called when their email address might be something like worldcupwinner66@hotmail.com or whatever. You can use my chat handle or call me Steve, makes no odds to me. So why do you constantly say posts are by Steve Hamer? Please, do enlighten me/us as you certainly like to throw his name around, don’t you
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Post by irenestoyboy on Jan 30, 2020 0:12:04 GMT
Its worth nothing that on GC where first names are used, its because the poster has disclosed them, and where there has been a conversation where that is used. Yes mods can see email addresses, but rarely does that disclose the name unless its obviously in the email address itself. For example, its hard to know who someone is called when their email address might be something like worldcupwinner66@hotmail.com or whatever. You can use my chat handle or call me Steve, makes no odds to me. So why do you constantly say posts are by Steve Hamer? Please, do enlighten me/us as you certainly like to throw his name around, don’t you I’ve caught Hamer on the forum with one user name, mainly because he gave himself away, I won’t say how, but he did. The same style of posting, including grammatical errors and comprehension construction is consistent with other posts that get written. Then you look at what the posts are about it’s 97% slagging the owners or MS directly it confirms the suspicions. When you call him out, he never uses that user name again. It’s so obvious to spot. So whilst I don’t know it’s 100% him, it’s a 99.9% nailed on guess based on experience and not just by me either, a couple of the other mods are wise to it as well. It’s Conduct not become of any club or former club chairman and it creates division. If you’re gonna slag someone off, have the goolies to do it to their face or at least offer the service.
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Post by eppinggas on Jan 30, 2020 8:14:31 GMT
So why do you constantly say posts are by Steve Hamer? Please, do enlighten me/us as you certainly like to throw his name around, don’t you I’ve caught Hamer on the forum with one user name, mainly because he gave himself away, I won’t say how, but he did. The same style of posting, including grammatical errors and comprehension construction is consistent with other posts that get written. Then you look at what the posts are about it’s 97% slagging the owners or MS directly it confirms the suspicions. When you call him out, he never uses that user name again. It’s so obvious to spot. So whilst I don’t know it’s 100% him, it’s a 99.9% nailed on guess based on experience and not just by me either, a couple of the other mods are wise to it as well. It’s Conduct not become of any club or former club chairman and it creates division. If you’re gonna slag someone off, have the goolies to do it to their face or at least offer the service. Hang on. You say conclusively that you have "caught Hamer", and then say "I don't know it's 100% him, it's a 99.9% nailed on guess", which is a complete contradiction as a stand alone statement! Which username(s) are you referring to? If they stopped posting then I guess we can assume you were 'right'. So which one(s) are they? If you are correct - then yes, I agree that using a forum by a Club Chairman is totally inappropriate / unprofessional.
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Jan 30, 2020 8:32:54 GMT
Thank you and to the others. I don’t now get drawn into the silly stuff & hope it doesn’t invade here. In that case, I'll get my coat. Why bother when the obsessiveness with football is about as silly as it gets
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Post by irenestoyboy on Jan 30, 2020 9:58:24 GMT
I’ve caught Hamer on the forum with one user name, mainly because he gave himself away, I won’t say how, but he did. The same style of posting, including grammatical errors and comprehension construction is consistent with other posts that get written. Then you look at what the posts are about it’s 97% slagging the owners or MS directly it confirms the suspicions. When you call him out, he never uses that user name again. It’s so obvious to spot. So whilst I don’t know it’s 100% him, it’s a 99.9% nailed on guess based on experience and not just by me either, a couple of the other mods are wise to it as well. It’s Conduct not become of any club or former club chairman and it creates division. If you’re gonna slag someone off, have the goolies to do it to their face or at least offer the service. Hang on. You say conclusively that you have "caught Hamer", and then say "I don't know it's 100% him, it's a 99.9% nailed on guess", which is a complete contradiction as a stand alone statement! Which username(s) are you referring to? If they stopped posting then I guess we can assume you were 'right'. So which one(s) are they? If you are correct - then yes, I agree that using a forum by a Club Chairman is totally inappropriate / unprofessional. I caught him where I 100% knew it was him because he gave himself away. As per my first line. The other user names that have been used he hasn't said anything that has definitely given himself away personally but when you look at subject (which is mostly club/board bashing and individual attacks on Wael or MS), the construction of the post, the grammar, its too close to be coincidence. There are also a small number of football related posts to make it look genuine. Its an all too familiar pattern and like I said, its not just me that notices it. Of the user names I can remember there was Maddog, UTG12, Blue Camel, most recently its been Horfield and then up popped gasometer050209 or something. In my experience of modding posts, people that have grumbles, issues or want something changed always post a solution alongside it, what they would like to see. Posters rarely and continuously jab at individuals or club employees on a personal level. For example, I have been critical of the SC and KM in particular, but I have explained why I think so. I may have said his leadership is outdated and feckless, but I dont recall myself making personal remarks or call him stupid or useless, because he's clearly a clever guy and has done lots of positive things. Sorry if its a bit ramble but Im trying to explain myself as clearly as possible!
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Post by gastower on Jan 30, 2020 9:59:08 GMT
The club President uses a proxy on here .Is it gashead 1981 , irenestoyboy or Lord Haw Haw of Jordan?
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Post by Curly Wurly on Jan 30, 2020 10:44:26 GMT
The club President uses a proxy on here .Is it gashead 1981 , irenestoyboy or Lord Haw Haw of Jordan? Don't be childish. ITB has made his position perfectly clear on here and on Gaschat.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2020 11:06:57 GMT
In that case, I'll get my coat. Why bother when the obsessiveness with football is about as silly as it gets Is that in invitation to stay? I'm moved and will re-double efforts. Thank you.
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Post by gastower on Jan 30, 2020 11:10:01 GMT
Yes indeed ITB has made his position perfectly clear on here however may I suggest you look in depth at his posts GC
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