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Post by kingswood Polak on Jan 28, 2020 11:09:24 GMT
(Replying to you but also directly addressing ITB) The problem is by calling it out you become part of the problem- it gives oxygen to the debate and (as can be seen on the other forum) just propagates the endless tit for tat which ( for those of us not privy to the finer details of the club’s inner workings) looks like playground gossip and drama. Personally I also find the use of first names on a forum unnecessary as that also gives the effect of some inner sanctum that the rest of us are not part of and just adds to the gossip-y nature of it all. There is also the issue, for those who are on the outside looking in, of who to believe. Why should we believe you when you seem very pro-board (you insist you aren’t but that is how you come across) vs the likes of Hamer, who for all his faults might be trying to ultimately work toward a more sustainable ownership but is just going about it the wrong way? The two sides of the debate are so polarised that it’s hard to see where the actual objective voice is in the debate. I don’t think there is one which is probably why I find the whole thing so tiresome. Endless tit-for-tat is the definition of a forum anyway isn't it? I'd suggest the remedy is not to take it all too seriously, although I often forget that.
I agree with your dislike on use of first names, but I'm more puzzled how people know this information anyway?
I'm presuming your second para. is directed at ITB.
I’d guess because , being a moderator would give the login email addresses and maybe names ? I know knowall/Fanatical and I have both freely given our identities as, for me anyway, it wouldn’t take much to know who I am.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 11:19:14 GMT
70 pages and counting, about something that didn't happen! Good job it's mostly blokes on here, I mean, you know what terrible gossips the girls can be. It's a lovely long thread, 'tis true. But of the seventy pages, I estimate the posts are 50% takeover speculation, 30% off-topic argument, 15% Bambi, and 5% duck. I think we would agree that marrying your 13 year old first cousin, once removed, is bad. Agreed. But could I borrow half a million quid to lend to my mate Farage? I don't like to ask, but we really do need to get the bell fixed and back in place by 11pm this Friday, ready to mark our independence day. No.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 12:00:11 GMT
Please give ITB a break. He is trying to be honest. I sense a frustrated supporter and I can identify with that emotion. Don't drive him away with constant carping. He is a gregarious individual, but nothing wrong with that trait. Not until he has asked that question I wanted him to pose to Wael...😂😂 He hates Tote End Brian BTW. 🤣🤣 "I would not give him the froth off my piss". I might use that one.... "steam off my urine" You've messed it up already. I agree with you Vaughan, let's leave forum bullying for other places. This forum has mostly upheld respect for other posters and saved our insults for those who f*** our club up.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 12:50:48 GMT
The thought of you giving me pleasure isn't something that had previously crossed my mind, and hopefully, if the therapy works, it never will again You cad Sir. Christ I'm starting to sound like Oldie. Oink oink 😂😂
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Post by irenestoyboy on Jan 28, 2020 12:59:39 GMT
Hi Vaughan. I can certainly ask the next time I see him at a game. He’s currently in Jordan for the foreseeable future though. Please remember I’m not his mouthpiece, so if he chooses not to say you’ll have to respect that and maybe contact him directly on his social media channels. I’m always happy to meet folk if you are in and around the boxes. I can’t necessarily introduce you to him because you don’t go into each other’s boxes without permission. But if you knock on the door he may be inclined to speak. Hope this helps. Steve Can I also add, I don’t want to become a target on here for abuse. That’s not why I popped in to begin with and I get enough on GC. So without seeming like I’m having a sense of humour failure I’ll just ignore any attack posts. It doesn’t mean I’m being a snowflake, I just don’t want to engage that way. By all means ask me anything or maybe pm me a list of what you want to ask and I’ll pass it to Martyn Starnes or Wael at the next home game. Tom is always available on twitter too. It would seem to me that the answer lies in your post. Wael in Jordan, for the foreseeable future. Dear lord, that is just wrong and on so many levels that I’m not going to list. So much for having such passion for the club 😟 I''m not going to post the reason why as a bit like Ben Garner had, it's a personal family matter and you wouldn't be so quick to stir the pot if you knew the exact reason. And Im fully aware of how ITK that sounds, but it isn't with that intent. Its not for me to disclose but if any of us here were in the same boat, we would all be doing exactly the same.
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Post by irenestoyboy on Jan 28, 2020 13:01:59 GMT
What a wonderful word vainglorious is.
I'd simply read it that, because of proximity on matchday, ITB/GH1881 was offering to pass on meaningful questions to the board of two.
Without speaking for him, I'd just observe that he is not trying to achieve anything, but has taken to calling out the rumour-mongers and ITK brigade that offer criticism, but no realistic solutions.
I’m interested in why the complete 180 change of tack, going from one of the fiercest critics to what comes across as near enough an employee of the club. I’d be interested in what brought about this damascene experience? Its not a 180' turn as you say, because what doesn't make sense, still doesn't, but I refer you to my post I wrote this morning for the reasons of cutting them some slack.
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Post by vaughan on Jan 28, 2020 13:04:06 GMT
Yes, manners maketh Man ..and on that note.
Apologies ITB for misquoting you on the urine metaphor and any distress that this may have caused...😂😂
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Post by irenestoyboy on Jan 28, 2020 13:10:56 GMT
Endless tit-for-tat is the definition of a forum anyway isn't it? I'd suggest the remedy is not to take it all too seriously, although I often forget that.
I agree with your dislike on use of first names, but I'm more puzzled how people know this information anyway?
I'm presuming your second para. is directed at ITB.
I’d guess because , being a moderator would give the login email addresses and maybe names ? I know knowall/Fanatical and I have both freely given our identities as, for me anyway, it wouldn’t take much to know who I am. Its worth nothing that on GC where first names are used, its because the poster has disclosed them, and where there has been a conversation where that is used. Yes mods can see email addresses, but rarely does that disclose the name unless its obviously in the email address itself. For example, its hard to know who someone is called when their email address might be something like worldcupwinner66@hotmail.com or whatever. You can use my chat handle or call me Steve, makes no odds to me.
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Post by irenestoyboy on Jan 28, 2020 13:12:24 GMT
Yes, manners maketh Man ..and on that note. Apologies ITB for misquoting you on the urine metaphor and any distress that this may have caused...😂😂 I wanted to type that, I was just being polite. Mods - feel free to amend as required.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 14:17:03 GMT
Wael is probably in jordan to be with his ailing father,seems a bit unfair to attack him for that. No surprise though sadly.
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Post by eppinggas on Jan 28, 2020 14:17:57 GMT
Yes, manners maketh Man ..and on that note. Apologies ITB for misquoting you on the urine metaphor and any distress that this may have caused...😂😂 I wanted to type that, I was just being polite. Mods - feel free to amend as required. Just wondering ITB... on the other forum recently a poll suggested that around a third of Rovers support thought that Dwane Sports were doing a 'good job'. To continue the urine metaphors, almost enough to make my piss boil. Are you here to 'convert the non-believers'? Apart from Vertigo (who is either a lifelong contrarian, an intellectual heavyweight partaking of a particularly strange parlour game, or an idiot), I don't think you'll find many takers. Let's see how you do. UTG.
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 28, 2020 14:54:00 GMT
I In a solitude of the.... Thanks AMPG. Quoting Hardy's poem about the sinking of the on a thread about Rovers problems fills me with confidence ..... not. 😉 But, fwiw, about this thread (and obviously not certainly not aimed at you but Hardy's poem has “inspired” me to contribute to this thread.): .... I rarely post on these ground, UWE, FM threads because I can’t be bothered to read pages about very little factual stuff because most of the pages are just opportunities for posters to try and show how clever they can be about being rude in a non-rude kind of way. .... But this afternoon with a few minutes to spare I thought I’d catch up with this thread. And tbh I think I’ve learnt a bit from the last 10 pages. What I’m not sure but I certainly know more about certain posters than I did before. I also realise that I’m even less ITK than I ever believed I was. Whether that’s good or bad or completely inconsequential I don’t know. .... Others will disagree but ITB or G81 from the other side deserves credit for trying to put his side of what he posts. He puts a point of view across without being rude, abusive or “smart” which is something. He strikes me as a gashead and that I can identify with. He wants to help. .... Whilst not everyone agrees I have found the last few pages entertaining. Swiss is always good to read and has been consistent over a period of time about his concerns and his financial knowledge adds to this thread. Others bring a level of knowledge which is good to read for someone who hasn’t lived in Bristol for 55 years and whose family left soon after. .... My biggest sadness is that BRFC has been unable to discover/find/ bring on board a businessman from north or east Bristol like Piley (Fleetwood), Holt (Accrington), the guy from Brighton, Madejski (Reading), Lansdowne, Benham (Brentford), or many others who believed in their club and who had the capacity to build a club and it’s infrastructure from the bottom. We need someone whose emotional ties to us match their ability to access or provide the funds to grow us. We don’t need a son of a business family who wants a toy to occupy him. (That’s given me away I know.) The views expressed in this post dont represent the views of Gasheads.org!! But thanks for half an hours pure entertainment reading it. Now all I want is three points tonight but having watching Bolton take us apart at the Mem I’m not confident. ps. Well done to epping the forum is really coming back to life. UTG!
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Post by irenestoyboy on Jan 28, 2020 15:22:25 GMT
I wanted to type that, I was just being polite. Mods - feel free to amend as required. Just wondering ITB... on the other forum recently a poll suggested that around a third of Rovers support thought that Dwane Sports were doing a 'good job'. To continue the urine metaphors, almost enough to make my piss boil. Are you here to 'convert the non-believers'? Apart from Vertigo (who is either a lifelong contrarian, an intellectual heavyweight partaking of a particularly strange parlour game, or an idiot), I don't think you'll find many takers. Let's see how you do. UTG. I think you are all big and ugly enough to form your own conclusions without me trying to cloud your judgement. I had no real inclination to stay as long as I have, let alone to try and convert any person to the way of DS! But you’ve all been such a friendly bunch...!
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Post by eppinggas on Jan 28, 2020 15:54:52 GMT
I In a solitude of the.... ps. Well done to epping the forum is really coming back to life. UTG! Whilst that's kind of you to say so... I can't take any credit. All the hardwork / groundwork was done by JeffNZ and the mods. I think it's more of a reflection that the Club would appear to be entering a critical period in it's history and people really care. And don't want to wade through 5 pages of knob gags to obtain a pertinent comment.
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Post by eppinggas on Jan 28, 2020 15:59:02 GMT
Just wondering ITB... on the other forum recently a poll suggested that around a third of Rovers support thought that Dwane Sports were doing a 'good job'. To continue the urine metaphors, almost enough to make my piss boil. Are you here to 'convert the non-believers'? Apart from Vertigo (who is either a lifelong contrarian, an intellectual heavyweight partaking of a particularly strange parlour game, or an idiot), I don't think you'll find many takers. Let's see how you do. UTG. I think you are all big and ugly enough to form your own conclusions without me trying to cloud your judgement. I had no real inclination to stay as long as I have, let alone to try and convert any person to the way of DS! But you’ve all been such a friendly bunch...! Some of the stuff thrown at you has been really poor. But there's plenty who are happy to hear your comment and respond accordingly. IMHO you're welcome to stay in the "knob gag free zone".
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Post by dido on Jan 28, 2020 16:39:57 GMT
knob gag free zone ……. but not knob free zone.
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 28, 2020 17:02:55 GMT
ps. Well done to epping the forum is really coming back to life. UTG! Whilst that's kind of you to say so... I can't take any credit. All the hardwork / groundwork was done by JeffNZ and the mods. I think it's more of a reflection that the Club would appear to be entering a critical period in it's history and people really care. And don't want to wade through 5 pages of knob gags to obtain a pertinent comment. Perhaps, but credit where it’s due. You stepped up to the mark after Jeff, who did a fine job, was going to leave. That deserves credit imo. UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 19:33:50 GMT
In my view "irenestoyboy" has not had a fair trial.
If as expected he is found guilty he would be well within his rights to request a retrial.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 19:35:31 GMT
It would seem to me that the answer lies in your post. Wael in Jordan, for the foreseeable future. Dear lord, that is just wrong and on so many levels that I’m not going to list. So much for having such passion for the club 😟 I''m not going to post the reason why as a bit like Ben Garner had, it's a personal family matter and you wouldn't be so quick to stir the pot if you knew the exact reason. And Im fully aware of how ITK that sounds, but it isn't with that intent. Its not for me to disclose but if any of us here were in the same boat, we would all be doing exactly the same. I think you missed KP's jest about Wael being in Jordan (Katie Price) I'm sure he didn't intend to offend Wael and his family.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 19:39:07 GMT
Wael is probably in jordan to be with his ailing father,seems a bit unfair to attack him for that. No surprise though sadly. Nobody has attacked Wael. I think KP's pun was a little difficult for some to understand. I am sure we all wish Wael, his Father and family our best wishes at such a difficult time.
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