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Post by bondigas on Jul 13, 2019 21:31:52 GMT
He's a narcissists who has surrounded himself with sycophants who can't believe the attention he offers them ! True kiss the badge gashead, your having a laugh !
Weak man who surrounds himself with even weaker men !
Result, destruction !
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Post by eppinggas on Jul 13, 2019 21:45:22 GMT
It's on the official twitter account. I have no idea how to link to the specific tweet. However, if you scroll down to July 11th, you should find it.
Thanks for the link. If it's this one I can't see what the big problem is. And I thought the hugging a player was going to be a separate incident, and someone being interviewed live by Radio Bristol - as it is it's just a little piece being recorded for Rovers social media. Cringe. |
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Post by eppinggas on Jul 13, 2019 21:57:17 GMT
"Jack's drinking is not limited to alcohol, as he will drink any type of liquid he can get his hands on (minus water which he despises). This has brought him trouble many times. Twice, Jack has drunk Toilet Duck (bleach) which has made him hallucinate, seeing pink elephants and the people around him as bizarre oddities." fatherted.fandom.com/wiki/Jack_HackettOn a more serious note - if there was a viable alternative to Dwane Sports, would you get behind it father? I guess a lot of the rumours and conjecture are a direct result of frustration with the current owners. Although you see this as 'pointless' - it won't go away while we are being 'led' by (and I chose my words carefully)... fools. how little you know me. I was looking for alternatives to the board as far back as 2001. In the split of 2006 I was a very active supporter of the ‘losing’ side, things that had consequences for another decade. IMHO we’ve been led by fools for the best part of two decades. A few of us were speaking out for most of that time and were criticised often by many people. It’s not the criticism of the Al Qadi family that grates so much, it’s the rank hypocrisy that those making the majority of noise where the ones showering previous owners with praise when the club was sinking into oblivion. Fair play father. I can confirm I have never showered praise on any previous owners (well certainly not Nick Higgs). I don't know the ins and outs. I think there was a fantastic amount of good work done to get us back to Bristol, and that good work has been undone. IMHO the present incumbents are fools, at best. I really worry about my Club. I apologise if I come across as negative. I just want what is best for Bristol Rovers FC - and from everything I have heard and seen over the last 3 years - that is not going to be provided under the stewardship of Dwane Sports. Happy to meet up for a pint anytime. But I'll probably steer clear of the Toilet Duck. Sorry to drag shoveller into all of this. UTG. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2019 22:31:54 GMT
He's a narcissists who has surrounded himself with sycophants who can't believe the attention he offers them ! True kiss the badge gashead, your having a laugh ! Weak man who surrounds himself with even weaker men ! Result, destruction ! How dramatic. Because he did a bit of naff comedy with tom nichols? |
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Post by a more piratey game on Jul 13, 2019 22:54:03 GMT
I'm more concerned about that spivvy tache on TN. Dad's Army, anyone?
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jul 14, 2019 11:17:14 GMT
He's a narcissists who has surrounded himself with sycophants who can't believe the attention he offers them ! True kiss the badge gashead, your having a laugh ! Weak man who surrounds himself with even weaker men ! Result, destruction ! Sadly this is the reality of it. Started well but quickly got out of his comfort zone & lost any grip on the reality of running the club. It saddens me greatly. |
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Post by lostinspace on Jul 14, 2019 11:57:09 GMT
really do think some people need to take a look at their own lives if all you can do is [attempt] to belittle a man trying to run a football club....... FOOTBALL !!! FFS
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Post by swissgas on Jul 14, 2019 13:02:11 GMT
really do think some people need to take a look at their own lives if all you can do is [attempt] to belittle a man trying to run a football club....... FOOTBALL !!! FFS Desperately trying to find a way of replying to your post without over using the letter “I” lostinspace (aware it’s bad form) but, almost uniquely I suppose, I am in a position to relay what it is like to be seen as one of the bosses trying to run a football club. So forgive a few “I’s” here and there. August 1987 and Rovers are away at Blackpool with the directors and a few others enjoying a Saturday morning stroll along the Prom. At one of the stalls I spot a cowboy hat with “s***head” printed on the front and point it out to Geoff. Geoff laughs and says “we’ll have that” so he buys it, sidles discreetly up to Vernon Stokes and puts it on his head without Vernon seeing what’s written on it. So for the next 20 minutes or so the VIP party from BRFC all decked out in club blazers and neatly pressed grey slacks are walking along the front with one of our number proudly wearing a cowboy hat with “s***head” “ emblazoned across it. Vernon couldn’t quite work out why everyone was sniggering at him but when he did he took it in a lighthearted way because he is a good sport with a great sense of humor. To me this is harmless fun. I could follow up with saying that a couple of years later we were back at Blackpool winning the third tier championship. But that is not the main point I want to make. The main point is that Rovers during those times were a tightly run ship with everyone pulling together because we had to be to survive. At every board meeting the finances were laid out in detail by an accountant working for Denis, called Jack England, and the books had to balance or else we had to put more of our own money in. If Geoff or I (in our thirties then) had been stupid enough to run up and hug a player while he was being interviewed Gerry Francis would have punched us and rightly so. Hopefully this explains why I feel so strongly about this incident and Wael’s other displays of egotistical behavior. |
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Post by Rex on Jul 14, 2019 14:17:04 GMT
really do think some people need to take a look at their own lives if all you can do is [attempt] to belittle a man trying to run a football club....... FOOTBALL !!! FFS Desperately trying to find a way of replying to your post without over using the letter “I” lostinspace (aware it’s bad form) but, almost uniquely I suppose, I am in a position to relay what it is like to be seen as one of the bosses trying to run a football club. So forgive a few “I’s” here and there. August 1987 and Rovers are away at Blackpool with the directors and a few others enjoying a Saturday morning stroll along the Prom. At one of the stalls I spot a cowboy hat with “s***head” printed on the front and point it out to Geoff. Geoff laughs and says “we’ll have that” so he buys it, sidles discreetly up to Vernon Stokes and puts it on his head without Vernon seeing what’s written on it. So for the next 20 minutes or so the VIP party from BRFC all decked out in club blazers and neatly pressed grey slacks are walking along the front with one of our number proudly wearing a cowboy hat with “s***head” “ emblazoned across it. Vernon couldn’t quite work out why everyone was sniggering at him but when he did he took it in a lighthearted way because he is a good sport with a great sense of humor. To me this is harmless fun. I could follow up with saying that a couple of years later we were back at Blackpool winning the third tier championship. But that is not the main point I want to make. The main point is that Rovers during those times were a tightly run ship with everyone pulling together because we had to be to survive. At every board meeting the finances were laid out in detail by an accountant working for Denis, called Jack England, and the books had to balance or else we had to put more of our own money in. If Geoff or I (in our thirties then) had been stupid enough to run up and hug a player while he was being interviewed Gerry Francis would have punched us and rightly so. Hopefully this explains why I feel so strongly about this incident and Wael’s other displays of egotistical behavior. Still don't get it I'm afraid. he mucked around a little bit during one of those incredibly mind numbing unimportant interviews. I really couldn't care less. The lack of a training ground, lack of progress on a new stadium, the seemingly endless ways we continue to mismanage and f**k up at every attempt, those are the annoying things. |
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Post by swissgas on Jul 14, 2019 14:32:32 GMT
Desperately trying to find a way of replying to your post without over using the letter “I” lostinspace (aware it’s bad form) but, almost uniquely I suppose, I am in a position to relay what it is like to be seen as one of the bosses trying to run a football club. So forgive a few “I’s” here and there. August 1987 and Rovers are away at Blackpool with the directors and a few others enjoying a Saturday morning stroll along the Prom. At one of the stalls I spot a cowboy hat with “s***head” printed on the front and point it out to Geoff. Geoff laughs and says “we’ll have that” so he buys it, sidles discreetly up to Vernon Stokes and puts it on his head without Vernon seeing what’s written on it. So for the next 20 minutes or so the VIP party from BRFC all decked out in club blazers and neatly pressed grey slacks are walking along the front with one of our number proudly wearing a cowboy hat with “s***head” “ emblazoned across it. Vernon couldn’t quite work out why everyone was sniggering at him but when he did he took it in a lighthearted way because he is a good sport with a great sense of humor. To me this is harmless fun. I could follow up with saying that a couple of years later we were back at Blackpool winning the third tier championship. But that is not the main point I want to make. The main point is that Rovers during those times were a tightly run ship with everyone pulling together because we had to be to survive. At every board meeting the finances were laid out in detail by an accountant working for Denis, called Jack England, and the books had to balance or else we had to put more of our own money in. If Geoff or I (in our thirties then) had been stupid enough to run up and hug a player while he was being interviewed Gerry Francis would have punched us and rightly so. Hopefully this explains why I feel so strongly about this incident and Wael’s other displays of egotistical behavior. Still don't get it I'm afraid. he mucked around a little bit during one of those incredibly mind numbing unimportant interviews. I really couldn't care less. The lack of a training ground, lack of progress on a new stadium, the seemingly endless ways we continue to mismanage and f up at every attempt, those are the annoying things. Because his mucking around is a symptom of the “I do what I like” attitude I agree that attitude may not matter much when you apply it to interrupting a player interview after a pre-season friendly but it matters a great deal when it comes to important matters like the new stadium, the training ground and the club finances. If we allow him to get away with “I do what I like” on trivial matters it’s hardly surprising he carries it on in important matters. But if instead of cheering him on Gasheads were to say to him, en masse, “come off it Wael, stop taking the p*ss, behave like a mature adult and communicate with us about the financial situation, the stadium and the training ground” maybe he would come to his senses. |
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Jul 14, 2019 16:22:16 GMT
Still don't get it I'm afraid. he mucked around a little bit during one of those incredibly mind numbing unimportant interviews. I really couldn't care less. The lack of a training ground, lack of progress on a new stadium, the seemingly endless ways we continue to mismanage and f up at every attempt, those are the annoying things. Because his mucking around is a symptom of the “I do what I like” attitude I agree that attitude may not matter much when you apply it to interrupting a player interview after a pre-season friendly but it matters a great deal when it comes to important matters like the new stadium, the training ground and the club finances. If we allow him to get away with “I do what I like” on trivial matters it’s hardly surprising he carries it on in important matters. But if instead of cheering him on Gasheads were to say to him, en masse, “come off it Wael, stop taking the p*ss, behave like a mature adult and communicate with us about the financial situation, the stadium and the training ground” maybe he would come to his senses. I wish I had said that to Geoff Dunford when he said to me ‘If you don’t like it you know what you can do’ back in 92. After the appalling way Dennis Rofe was sacked. It’s not always as black and white as you call it. |
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Post by fanatical on Jul 14, 2019 16:51:30 GMT
How right Swissgas is - nothing wrong with Management having fun with players BUT more important is the financial situation because that determines whether the Club survives or not and with debts mounting, season tickets down, no sign that Dwayne Sports have any real plans, the owners have to show a serious side - and that is sadly missing.
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Post by swissgas on Jul 14, 2019 17:55:57 GMT
Because his mucking around is a symptom of the “I do what I like” attitude I agree that attitude may not matter much when you apply it to interrupting a player interview after a pre-season friendly but it matters a great deal when it comes to important matters like the new stadium, the training ground and the club finances. If we allow him to get away with “I do what I like” on trivial matters it’s hardly surprising he carries it on in important matters. But if instead of cheering him on Gasheads were to say to him, en masse, “come off it Wael, stop taking the p*ss, behave like a mature adult and communicate with us about the financial situation, the stadium and the training ground” maybe he would come to his senses. I wish I had said that to Geoff Dunford when he said to me ‘If you don’t like it you know what you can do’ back in 92. After the appalling way Dennis Rofe was sacked. It’s not always as black and white as you call it. Geoff came closest to having the “I do as I like” attitude but fortunately he had strong characters like his Dad and Roy Redman around him to keep him in check. Others provided complementary skills and that is why the board were able to create an environment in which the team was successful and the finances were such that Rovers were able to acquire the Mem when the opportunity arose. it wasn’t perfect then and, as we agree, the disaster of 2006 meant a generation of leaders was lost and the ensuing Nick Higgs semi dictatorship meant we ended up with 7.2 million of debt in 2016. I don’t know how Gasheads imagine we are going to deal with the 17 million debt mountain we have now but here is my speculation. 1) Someone has a plan for a new stadium and the resources and vision to take Rovers forward. Hani persuades Wael to give it all up, the ground is sold with a provision for Rovers, under new ownership, to stay until the new stadium is complete. The Al Qadi family get all their money back including a sizeable chunk of interest and Rovers make a fresh start. 2) Someone has a plan for a new stadium and the resources and vision to take Rovers forward but it cannot go ahead because Wael won’t let the football club go. The Mem has to be sold to repay the loan but the community don’t want Rovers to die so with Council help and crowdfunding a modest rented stadium is acquired and Rovers carry on with Wael at the helm. Based on Wael’s track record in managing the club till now it is hardly surprising that financial crisis follows financial crisis and Wael wastes his personal fortune on an impossible dream. Rovers become a “lame duck” club staggering on but going nowhere and Gasheads are just left with memories of happier days when we were a respected and dignified professional club. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2019 19:01:09 GMT
Yes it seems he wants to be loved and he wants to be your best mate but he doesn't realize that this has to be earned. We all know people who say things they don't mean or make promises they have no way of fulfilling and most of us shy away from those sort of people to save embarrassment. In Rovers case we have a leader with those character faults and so it is difficult to decide how to deal with it because if you follow Rovers it's hard to shy away. In one of those interviews with Geoff Twentyman about 18 months ago Wael admitted he had not communicated effectively enough and promised to do better. But he did nothing of the sort and yet no one seems to care. In fact there was discussion on one of the forums this week about lack of communication and someone defending Wael said "but he did give that interview in March" and that was it. The last interview from the leader of the club was four months ago and this is apparently quite acceptable because we are Bristol Rovers and we operate in a different way to other football clubs. But the point is not really about communication its about saying one thing but doing another and being consistently allowed to get away with it. Are Gasheads really so weak and apathetic that we don't mind being treated in this way ? When people say "but what can you do about it" the answer is you can do what you would usually do when you come across someone like this in the workplace, school, pub, club or on social media. You politely say to them "please don't feed me this bullsh*t". And if enough people do this enough times the person might eventually get the message and start to respect others and be sincere in what they say with the result that they may eventually be able to earn the love they crave So true Swissgas - the man is a fantasist and is deluded propped up by freeloaders as they gradually are bringing Rovers to its knees. If he does not go NOW, the Club will not survive. The Supporters Club, President's Club and previous Boards have all contributed to a Club that can hold it's head high, but the future is in doubt if WAQ does not admit he is incapable of heading a football club. If you go now WAQ you can claim to have saved the club from non league - but you do not have the money or nous to take the club forward - please go. So has the latest proposed deal also hit the buffers? |
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Post by a more piratey game on Jul 14, 2019 19:03:26 GMT
I don't buy this terrible behaviour accusation...
it seems to me that leadership can happen a lot of ways. If it works for the team and the staff, then why not? There's no evidence that it doesn't - DC has remained pretty effusive about Wael, and the other staff seem to me to be supportive
if you take the view that a takeover is underway, this could be a 'last hurrah'
if you take the view that Wael is stopping a beneficial takeover, then he is being himself and you don't like him for it. That's fair enough, but it doesn't mean that he isn't doing his day-to-day job, it means he is stopping a beneficial takeover, which is a much bigger deal - and a bit of fun on tour shouldn't distract from that
but noone is sure about the takeoever, though rumours persist, so construing a character fault from a bit of fun on tour seems to miss the mark to me
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Post by a more piratey game on Jul 14, 2019 19:08:55 GMT
So true Swissgas - the man is a fantasist and is deluded propped up by freeloaders as they gradually are bringing Rovers to its knees. If he does not go NOW, the Club will not survive. The Supporters Club, President's Club and previous Boards have all contributed to a Club that can hold it's head high, but the future is in doubt if WAQ does not admit he is incapable of heading a football club. If you go now WAQ you can claim to have saved the club from non league - but you do not have the money or nous to take the club forward - please go. So has the latest proposed deal also hit the buffers? and, if so, does that explain the unusually rabble-rousy post above? or is the proposal still on the brink, so that you were trying to nudge it a bit? as a separate question, has anybody offered Wael some kind of face-saver? |
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Post by swissgas on Jul 14, 2019 20:05:11 GMT
I don't buy this terrible behaviour accusation... it seems to me that leadership can happen a lot of ways. If it works for the team and the staff, then why not? There's no evidence that it doesn't - DC has remained pretty effusive about Wael, and the other staff seem to me to be supportive if you take the view that a takeover is underway, this could be a 'last hurrah' if you take the view that Wael is stopping a beneficial takeover, then he is being himself and you don't like him for it. That's fair enough, but it doesn't mean that he isn't doing his day-to-day job, it means he is stopping a beneficial takeover, which is a much bigger deal - and a bit of fun on tour shouldn't distract from that but noone is sure about the takeoever, though rumours persist, so construing a character fault from a bit of fun on tour seems to miss the mark to me What is Wael’s day to day job at Rovers ampg ? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2019 20:12:28 GMT
I quite like Wael's behaviour, it shows that all is well behind the scenes.
If I had a business that was burning a seven figure sum every year, and the first number wasn't even a 1, unles there was a pretty frigging robust plan to resolve that problem I wouldn't be sleeping, let alone messing around making an arse of myself whilst a player was being interviewed.
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Post by a more piratey game on Jul 14, 2019 20:18:53 GMT
I don't buy this terrible behaviour accusation... it seems to me that leadership can happen a lot of ways. If it works for the team and the staff, then why not? There's no evidence that it doesn't - DC has remained pretty effusive about Wael, and the other staff seem to me to be supportive if you take the view that a takeover is underway, this could be a 'last hurrah' if you take the view that Wael is stopping a beneficial takeover, then he is being himself and you don't like him for it. That's fair enough, but it doesn't mean that he isn't doing his day-to-day job, it means he is stopping a beneficial takeover, which is a much bigger deal - and a bit of fun on tour shouldn't distract from that but noone is sure about the takeoever, though rumours persist, so construing a character fault from a bit of fun on tour seems to miss the mark to me What is Wael’s day to day job at Rovers ampg ? 'President', an unusually American title when the others have British titles, but it seems to be 'chief cheerleader and voice of the owners' Think 'Young Mr Grace' as the model |
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Post by swissgas on Jul 14, 2019 20:32:02 GMT
What is Wael’s day to day job at Rovers ampg ? 'President', an unusually American title when the others have British titles, but it seems to be 'chief cheerleader and voice of the owners' Think 'Young Mr Grace' as the model So with the 3 million plus annual losses, falling gates and falling league position is he telling the staff “you’re all doing not very well” ? I think he must be spending too much time fooling around with that nurse ! |
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