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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 10:08:05 GMT
You've gone very quiet Mr. Knowall Are all the peeps on their holliers? Exactly. Of course they are, all of the quantity surveyors, architects, planners, legal advisors, all of 'em, all on holiday at the same time, all have been for a year now. |
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Post by swissgas on Jul 12, 2019 13:09:57 GMT
I was sent a clip of Wael behaving like a kid after the friendly game in Dublin.
Is it just me or do others get a sick feeling in their stomach when they see things like this ?
Even at my advanced age I still behave like a kid sometimes but never in front of those to whom I have leadership responsibility and certainly not when times are grim and livelihoods could be badly affected due to my inadequacies. Wael is living out his fantasies while Rovers drift further downwards to a point where the club may have to start again from scratch. And yet Gasheads seem to be encouraging him ?
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Post by vaughan on Jul 12, 2019 14:19:16 GMT
So Swiss Gas,
Are you saying that Wael appears to be a fantasist, living out his football dreams?
Is that the Forum consensus?
The trousers were most disconcerting, almost as if he was suffering from a Bob the Builder blemish?
I heard that he did not travel home, but went West to kiss the Blarney Stone for his pre-season Twentyman interview.
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Jul 12, 2019 14:36:56 GMT
I was sent a clip of Wael behaving like a kid after the friendly game in Dublin. Is it just me or do others get a sick feeling in their stomach when they see things like this ? Even at my advanced age I still behave like a kid sometimes but never in front of those to whom I have leadership responsibility and certainly not when times are grim and livelihoods could be badly affected due to my inadequacies. Wael is living out his fantasies while Rovers drift further downwards to a point where the club may have to start again from scratch. And yet Gasheads seem to be encouraging him ? If the truth be told I’m past bloody caring. The simple fact is, despite two constant years of bitching and moaning, there is still not one viable, realistic alternative to the Al Qadi family. People come on here, social media, drip feed poison in the bars and the terraces and yet there are only rumours, conjecture and precisely zero in the way of something for us mere mortals to get behind. Mainly because they have never existed. Has Ed Ware put together his 67th mystery consortium yet? |
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Post by swissgas on Jul 12, 2019 15:03:36 GMT
So Swiss Gas, Are you saying that Wael appears to be a fantasist, living out his football dreams? Is that the Forum consensus? The trousers were most disconcerting, almost as if he was suffering from a Bob the Builder blemish? I heard that he did not travel home, but went West to kiss the Blarney Stone for his pre-season Twentyman interview. Yes Vaughan, I do think that. Take a look at this article from 2017. www.theleaguepaper.com/featured/7722/where-are-they-now-bristol-rovers-division-three-champions-1989-90/ Not wishing to get over-nostalgic but what a difference there is between this photo and the media output we are given now. Is it any wonder that this team of people managed to make a side playing at a non-league ground watched by crowds of 3000 into third tier Champions ? And by team I don't just mean the people in the photo because obviously we were led by Denis Dunford together with Ron Craig, Roy Redman and Vernon Stokes.But a great contribution was also made by the club staff, Presidents Club, Supporters Club, Helpline and a lot of others who all pitched in to make Rovers as professional and efficient as circumstances then allowed. And they did all this because they they were inspired to do so by leaders who actually led. If Wael had developed the playing side so we were confident of continued League 1 status, if the new stadium and training ground were both well underway and if Rovers were generally perceived as a modern, progressive and forward thinking club then you could write off my opinions as the meanderings of an out of touch old git. But with the way things are, and with the financial situation appearing to be completely out of control, I think I am fully entitled to say that Wael's antics are nothing less than shameful. |
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Post by swissgas on Jul 12, 2019 15:08:39 GMT
I was sent a clip of Wael behaving like a kid after the friendly game in Dublin. Is it just me or do others get a sick feeling in their stomach when they see things like this ? Even at my advanced age I still behave like a kid sometimes but never in front of those to whom I have leadership responsibility and certainly not when times are grim and livelihoods could be badly affected due to my inadequacies. Wael is living out his fantasies while Rovers drift further downwards to a point where the club may have to start again from scratch. And yet Gasheads seem to be encouraging him ? If the truth be told I’m past bloody caring. The simple fact is, despite two constant years of bitching and moaning, there is still not one viable, realistic alternative to the Al Qadi family. People come on here, social media, drip feed poison in the bars and the terraces and yet there are only rumours, conjecture and precisely zero in the way of something for us mere mortals to get behind. Mainly because they have never existed. Has Ed Ware put together his 67th mystery consortium yet? I don't care as much as I used to Father Jack but I still hate to see Wael taking the p*ss out of Gasheads which IMO is what he is doing. |
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Post by vaughan on Jul 12, 2019 15:26:34 GMT
Swiss Gas,
The one prediction I make is that he will never be held high down Gloucester Road again. Annals of History. One for Mike Jay to sigh over in his last days
I find his whole persona slightly amusing. Not sinister, not aggressive, not boastful, just a tad deluded.
You want to believe him, but there is a voice in your brain screaming "Guff alert".
One day, he might surprise us all.
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Post by swissgas on Jul 12, 2019 16:08:29 GMT
Swiss Gas, The one prediction I make is that he will never be held high down Gloucester Road again. Annals of History. One for Mike Jay to sigh over in his last days I find his whole persona slightly amusing. Not sinister, not aggressive, not boastful, just a tad deluded. You want to believe him, but there is a voice in your brain screaming "Guff alert". One day, he might surprise us all. Yes it seems he wants to be loved and he wants to be your best mate but he doesn't realize that this has to be earned. We all know people who say things they don't mean or make promises they have no way of fulfilling and most of us shy away from those sort of people to save embarrassment. In Rovers case we have a leader with those character faults and so it is difficult to decide how to deal with it because if you follow Rovers it's hard to shy away. In one of those interviews with Geoff Twentyman about 18 months ago Wael admitted he had not communicated effectively enough and promised to do better. But he did nothing of the sort and yet no one seems to care. In fact there was discussion on one of the forums this week about lack of communication and someone defending Wael said "but he did give that interview in March" and that was it. The last interview from the leader of the club was four months ago and this is apparently quite acceptable because we are Bristol Rovers and we operate in a different way to other football clubs. But the point is not really about communication its about saying one thing but doing another and being consistently allowed to get away with it. Are Gasheads really so weak and apathetic that we don't mind being treated in this way ? When people say "but what can you do about it" the answer is you can do what you would usually do when you come across someone like this in the workplace, school, pub, club or on social media. You politely say to them "please don't feed me this bullsh*t". And if enough people do this enough times the person might eventually get the message and start to respect others and be sincere in what they say with the result that they may eventually be able to earn the love they crave |
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Post by fanatical on Jul 12, 2019 16:46:55 GMT
Swiss Gas, The one prediction I make is that he will never be held high down Gloucester Road again. Annals of History. One for Mike Jay to sigh over in his last days I find his whole persona slightly amusing. Not sinister, not aggressive, not boastful, just a tad deluded. You want to believe him, but there is a voice in your brain screaming "Guff alert". One day, he might surprise us all. Yes it seems he wants to be loved and he wants to be your best mate but he doesn't realize that this has to be earned. We all know people who say things they don't mean or make promises they have no way of fulfilling and most of us shy away from those sort of people to save embarrassment. In Rovers case we have a leader with those character faults and so it is difficult to decide how to deal with it because if you follow Rovers it's hard to shy away. In one of those interviews with Geoff Twentyman about 18 months ago Wael admitted he had not communicated effectively enough and promised to do better. But he did nothing of the sort and yet no one seems to care. In fact there was discussion on one of the forums this week about lack of communication and someone defending Wael said "but he did give that interview in March" and that was it. The last interview from the leader of the club was four months ago and this is apparently quite acceptable because we are Bristol Rovers and we operate in a different way to other football clubs. But the point is not really about communication its about saying one thing but doing another and being consistently allowed to get away with it. Are Gasheads really so weak and apathetic that we don't mind being treated in this way ? When people say "but what can you do about it" the answer is you can do what you would usually do when you come across someone like this in the workplace, school, pub, club or on social media. You politely say to them "please don't feed me this bullsh*t". And if enough people do this enough times the person might eventually get the message and start to respect others and be sincere in what they say with the result that they may eventually be able to earn the love they crave So true Swissgas - the man is a fantasist and is deluded propped up by freeloaders as they gradually are bringing Rovers to its knees. If he does not go NOW, the Club will not survive. The Supporters Club, President's Club and previous Boards have all contributed to a Club that can hold it's head high, but the future is in doubt if WAQ does not admit he is incapable of heading a football club. If you go now WAQ you can claim to have saved the club from non league - but you do not have the money or nous to take the club forward - please go. |
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Post by fanatical on Jul 12, 2019 16:50:37 GMT
Swiss Gas, The one prediction I make is that he will never be held high down Gloucester Road again. Annals of History. One for Mike Jay to sigh over in his last days I find his whole persona slightly amusing. Not sinister, not aggressive, not boastful, just a tad deluded. You want to believe him, but there is a voice in your brain screaming "Guff alert". One day, he might surprise us all. Surprise or shock? |
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Jul 12, 2019 17:21:13 GMT
Yes it seems he wants to be loved and he wants to be your best mate but he doesn't realize that this has to be earned. We all know people who say things they don't mean or make promises they have no way of fulfilling and most of us shy away from those sort of people to save embarrassment. In Rovers case we have a leader with those character faults and so it is difficult to decide how to deal with it because if you follow Rovers it's hard to shy away. In one of those interviews with Geoff Twentyman about 18 months ago Wael admitted he had not communicated effectively enough and promised to do better. But he did nothing of the sort and yet no one seems to care. In fact there was discussion on one of the forums this week about lack of communication and someone defending Wael said "but he did give that interview in March" and that was it. The last interview from the leader of the club was four months ago and this is apparently quite acceptable because we are Bristol Rovers and we operate in a different way to other football clubs. But the point is not really about communication its about saying one thing but doing another and being consistently allowed to get away with it. Are Gasheads really so weak and apathetic that we don't mind being treated in this way ? When people say "but what can you do about it" the answer is you can do what you would usually do when you come across someone like this in the workplace, school, pub, club or on social media. You politely say to them "please don't feed me this bullsh*t". And if enough people do this enough times the person might eventually get the message and start to respect others and be sincere in what they say with the result that they may eventually be able to earn the love they crave So true Swissgas - the man is a fantasist and is deluded propped up by freeloaders as they gradually are bringing Rovers to its knees. If he does not go NOW, the Club will not survive. The Supporters Club, President's Club and previous Boards have all contributed to a Club that can hold it's head high, but the future is in doubt if WAQ does not admit he is incapable of heading a football club. If you go now WAQ you can claim to have saved the club from non league - but you do not have the money or nous to take the club forward - please go. Thank you so much for this. That is the best laugh I have had for months on here. I load of uninformed guff which has as much bearing on reality as your average episode of EastEnders. Only with less humour. |
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Post by fanatical on Jul 12, 2019 17:24:19 GMT
So true Swissgas - the man is a fantasist and is deluded propped up by freeloaders as they gradually are bringing Rovers to its knees. If he does not go NOW, the Club will not survive. The Supporters Club, President's Club and previous Boards have all contributed to a Club that can hold it's head high, but the future is in doubt if WAQ does not admit he is incapable of heading a football club. If you go now WAQ you can claim to have saved the club from non league - but you do not have the money or nous to take the club forward - please go. Thank you so much for this. That is the best laugh I have had for months on here. I load of uninformed guff which has as much bearing on reality as your average episode of EastEnders. Only with less humour. which shows how little you know - or care? |
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Post by lostinspace on Jul 12, 2019 18:10:31 GMT
even after all this time..... it is still not sure if EJ Hoover set up the assassination of JFK....................
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Post by a more piratey game on Jul 12, 2019 18:15:55 GMT
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So true Swissgas - the man is a fantasist and is deluded propped up by freeloaders as they gradually are bringing Rovers to its knees. If he does not go NOW, the Club will not survive. The Supporters Club, President's Club and previous Boards have all contributed to a Club that can hold it's head high, but the future is in doubt if WAQ does not admit he is incapable of heading a football club. If you go now WAQ you can claim to have saved the club from non league - but you do not have the money or nous to take the club forward - please go.
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That's a bit ranty/rabble rousy for you?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 23:33:30 GMT
I still with wael.
He shows more dignity that some of the bitter old men posting nothing of note on here.
If someone buys the club off of our owners fine but until then their the only owners we have.
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Post by swissgas on Jul 13, 2019 0:16:26 GMT
I still with wael. He shows more dignity that some of the bitter old men posting nothing of note on here. If someone buys the club off of our owners fine but until then their the only owners we have. Would you describe it as dignified when the club President crashes in and hugs a player being interviewed ? Or is that just a bit of harmless fun like the 17 million loan, the 700 000 a year interest bill and the legal charge over the Mem ? |
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Post by toteend3 on Jul 13, 2019 0:26:18 GMT
Some of you will have already seen my answer to a question from Trymer who asked whether I thought that the Qudi are ' clever businessman and wael is a massive gashead" ? or do you have a different opinion about the owner .
I must have been on the 'wacky backi' or maybe not when on June 9th l gave my take on Wael.
Well I was extremely fortunate to be at the early viewing Oct 16 of Wael's tv documentary to a hand selected few. It all seemed encouraging with his home life and football football football will override family stuff. The Q&A afterwards was more of a 'love in' - praise the new king who promised to get us a new ground before the majority of us pass away. I managed to get a question in and i asked him if hè ever stood on the Shed and does hè remember Chelsea playing Bristol Rovers - Wael confirmed hè had stood on the Shed, however hè could not recall watching us play. At the end, i waited until nearly every one else had thanked a very smiley Wael for new stadium, premier league, europe etc etc etc. It was our turn and i asked Wael if hè would mind taken a photo of me and my daughter which, in fairness to him, would seem like an odd request as everyone before wanted selfies. We had a few words between us remarking that a lot of the older fans were relying on him delivering a new stadium. Handshakes and then moved on, after walking away for a few yards i decided to look back Wael the smile had gone replaced with a the look of dread in that hè had build up so much hope for so many and only hè would know how realistic delivery would be.
I have no doubt he is a very good businessman with regards to banking, however running a football club is a different matter all together. I also believe he is a gashead and at the end of the day we all want be loved. Are we ever going to see a new stadium under his watch i doubt it but i would love Wael to prove me wrong! UTG
A month on and what I will say is I like the new additions to the the squad , and although there's some 'big fish' that will be expected to be challenging come the end of season i really believe we also be in with a shout! With this modest investment on the playing side if we were to make the Championship it could be a game changer for Wael who might then find interest from either investors or buyers. UTG
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2019 0:36:58 GMT
I still with wael. He shows more dignity that some of the bitter old men posting nothing of note on here. If someone buys the club off of our owners fine but until then their the only owners we have. Would you describe it as dignified when the club President crashes in and hugs a player being interviewed ? Or is that just a bit of harmless fun like the 17 million loan, the 700 000 a year interest bill and the legal charge over the Mem ? I think your clutching at straws just to have another dig at wael and co frankly. Football below the premier league is awash with debt and rovers are just like other clubs in the same boat. Whats the solution for the whole league? whats best method for servicing or managing the debt but still competing? Nobody seems to know the answer it seems because most clubs are struggling. If some superstar white english wealthy true gas head millionaire is available to deliver all our needs please step forward now. Lets see if that appeal works? |
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Post by swissgas on Jul 13, 2019 1:45:47 GMT
Would you describe it as dignified when the club President crashes in and hugs a player being interviewed ? Or is that just a bit of harmless fun like the 17 million loan, the 700 000 a year interest bill and the legal charge over the Mem ? I think your clutching at straws just to have another dig at wael and co frankly. Football below the premier league is awash with debt and rovers are just like other clubs in the same boat. Whats the solution for the whole league? whats best method for servicing or managing the debt but still competing? Nobody seems to know the answer it seems because most clubs are struggling. If some superstar white english wealthy true gas head millionaire is available to deliver all our needs please step forward now. Lets see if that appeal works? You said you are still “with Wael“ and that he shows more dignity than some posters on here but you didn’t say whether you thought his behavior in Dublin was dignified. To me it seemed Wael was deliberately putting on a show in Dublin and sometimes people do that to cover their true feelings. His true feeling might be reflected in the look of dread which totend4 saw. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2019 1:57:03 GMT
i cant see the problem with wael celebrating in dublin, our striker who couldnt score in a brothel got a hat trick
[albeit against lower quality], he was happy,so what ?
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