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Post by dido on Apr 26, 2019 13:12:09 GMT
I think the AQs brought that at the beginning - I was really impressed by the 'new thinking'. It seems to have hit the buffers though It was just buzzwords wrapped in hyperbole, similar to the kid in school who's definitely had a girlfriend but she went to another school. <iframe width="36.0799999999999" height="4.84" id="MoatPxIOPT0_39216159" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 15px; top: -5px; width: 36.08px; height: 4.84px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="36.0799999999999" height="4.84" id="MoatPxIOPT0_23616819" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 1732px; top: -5px; width: 36.08px; height: 4.84px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="36.0799999999999" height="4.84" id="MoatPxIOPT0_93893815" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 181px; width: 36.08px; height: 4.84px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="36.0799999999999" height="4.84" id="MoatPxIOPT0_11260268" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 1732px; top: 181px; width: 36.08px; height: 4.84px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> It's a while now since you used that one.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2019 13:29:16 GMT
Hurray, page 27 and counting.
Confirmed sightings of actual facts relating to ownership of Rovers changing so far, a big fat 0.
Yet still people bother to quote the usual suspects such as Knowall, people who are just fed information and then run their mouths in an attempt to appear either clever or important.
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Post by Peter Parker on Apr 26, 2019 14:12:54 GMT
that's pretty much how I see it. But the leadership waffle hasn't helped at all Can't disagree too much with daniel and AMPG, but I have been rather irked by the lack of identification in the Supporters Bar, I have not commented as there have been improvements, but there is not a single piece of evidence in the bar to show it is Rovers. There are no photographs, prints, shirts, the pirate model (now in the shop) etc etc and it is rather sterile. Our next opponents have a great bar with loads on decorations and pictures. Which bar do you refer to? the Thatchers end has Rovers artwork on the walls. 'Iconic images' as it were. Not sure what is in the SC bar, and there is nothing in the Butcombe bar (not that there was before either) To what do you suggest
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Post by Igitur on Apr 26, 2019 20:00:24 GMT
Can't disagree too much with daniel and AMPG, but I have been rather irked by the lack of identification in the Supporters Bar, I have not commented as there have been improvements, but there is not a single piece of evidence in the bar to show it is Rovers. There are no photographs, prints, shirts, the pirate model (now in the shop) etc etc and it is rather sterile. Our next opponents have a great bar with loads on decorations and pictures. Which bar do you refer to? the Thatchers end has Rovers artwork on the walls. 'Iconic images' as it were. Not sure what is in the SC bar, and there is nothing in the Butcombe bar (not that there was before either) To what do you suggest I am referring to the actual Supporters Club bar where you turn left as you go into the bars behind the Thatchers and you have to show your membership card, the bars have been switched. The walls are totally ‘naked’ and uninspiring. The pictures in the old bar must be somewhere and the Latvian’s shirt has disappeared. I suggest pictures are put up, I had offered to pay for pictures from our last Wembley trip, my email was acknowledged by the BRSC committee but they were ‘busy’ and would get back to me but never did.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 27, 2019 17:50:50 GMT
The most important part starts with the team playing well. It’s all well and good pointing out what you have but at what cost ? We have seen these experts come and go but any successful club starts with a decent team and I’d like to see the team improved and invested in, just my opinion We are at the limit for playing wage budget already. So without someone investing extra money, we won't be better off. It's only as high as it is, because of the changes. They don't pick the player's we sign. I've been told that next season GC has decided to use mainly our own youth player's, for the development squad. So he can put more info the first team squad. He's going for quantity over quality. Even simple things like electronic advertising is brining in more money. The big screen more, once it's finally working! So they are raising the budget the right way and making it sustainable. So unless someone has money to burn, we will be worse off. Let’s see the accounts and see how much better off we are
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 27, 2019 17:53:47 GMT
Not being funny, but is that not these owners have done?? Improved coaching set up, set up a development squad, signed loads of new partners, doubled our sponsorship deals, raised the budget every season because of the changes. Improved shops and bars, won awards for our marketing campaign. Hired a head of recruitment, improved back room staff including medical team. It's the ground and training facilities that they have not provided yet, which we need long term. So if someone takes over who is not going to improve that, what are they going to do that is so different??? "A coherent plan of what is needed and how to achieve it within a reasonable time scale would be nice" is the sentence that stood out in my post.
There has been investments in staffing but the club is still haemorrhaging money. Without a significant change in the way the club is run it will continue doing so. There is no doubt the AQ's have put their hands into their pockets but you can certainly question the way they're running the club and how long they'll be willing to do so.
But they have that money covered by the charge against the asset
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Post by daniel300380 on Apr 27, 2019 23:23:33 GMT
We are at the limit for playing wage budget already. So without someone investing extra money, we won't be better off. It's only as high as it is, because of the changes. They don't pick the player's we sign. I've been told that next season GC has decided to use mainly our own youth player's, for the development squad. So he can put more info the first team squad. He's going for quantity over quality. Even simple things like electronic advertising is brining in more money. The big screen more, once it's finally working! So they are raising the budget the right way and making it sustainable. So unless someone has money to burn, we will be worse off. Let’s see the accounts and see how much better off we are We went be as we increased our budget. Plus pay more staff on top and pay to look into other projects etc, for the long term.
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Post by eppinggas on Apr 28, 2019 8:21:51 GMT
We're now mathematically safe. What's the betting the accounts are released in the next few days? As for sustainability... let's go through the accounts as and when...
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 28, 2019 14:57:29 GMT
Let’s see the accounts and see how much better off we are We went be as we increased our budget. Plus pay more staff on top and pay to look into other projects etc, for the long term. Personally I will believe it when I see it. We have already had enough of smoke & mirrors plus lots of other things that just do not add up. It’s all well & good talking of sustainability but we had several of these experts come and go and Cunnah left as he knew he would not be able to work to his remit. Can we be sustainable with ever increasing losses then ? i know you mean well but I just don’t buy it. Any faith I may have had, has been eroded and I am totally disabused the our current owners will bring us anything but struggle and, like DC said, be a yo-yo club between L1 and 2, as we currently are. My hope is that we do get bought out or that major investment is coming. After all, the family are investment bankers, so why not allow others to invest ? I know what I think is true & have major reservations about but we shall see. I obviously would love to be proved wrong as I am a supporter and want the club to thrive and not just become static.
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Post by badbloodash on Apr 28, 2019 16:05:25 GMT
We went be as we increased our budget. Plus pay more staff on top and pay to look into other projects etc, for the long term. Personally I will believe it when I see it. We have already had enough of smoke & mirrors plus lots of other things that just do not add up. It’s all well & good talking of sustainability but we had several of these experts come and go and Cunnah left as he knew he would not be able to work to his remit. Can we be sustainable with ever increasing losses then ? i know you mean well but I just don’t buy it. Any faith I may have had, has been eroded and I am totally disabused the our current owners will bring us anything but struggle and, like DC said, be a yo-yo club between L1 and 2, as we currently are. My hope is that we do get bought out or that major investment is coming. After all, the family are investment bankers, so why not allow others to invest ? I know what I think is true & have major reservations about but we shall see. I obviously would love to be proved wrong as I am a supporter and want the club to thrive and not just become static. Hi jools as you know I’m one of the most pessimistic on here but am reliably told good news coming our week early may possibly after last game unfortunately I will be off sunning myself so won’t be there but good source so maybe have a few sangrias to celebrate chin up mate maybe times are a changing UTG
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2019 16:56:42 GMT
Personally I will believe it when I see it. We have already had enough of smoke & mirrors plus lots of other things that just do not add up. It’s all well & good talking of sustainability but we had several of these experts come and go and Cunnah left as he knew he would not be able to work to his remit. Can we be sustainable with ever increasing losses then ? i know you mean well but I just don’t buy it. Any faith I may have had, has been eroded and I am totally disabused the our current owners will bring us anything but struggle and, like DC said, be a yo-yo club between L1 and 2, as we currently are. My hope is that we do get bought out or that major investment is coming. After all, the family are investment bankers, so why not allow others to invest ? I know what I think is true & have major reservations about but we shall see. I obviously would love to be proved wrong as I am a supporter and want the club to thrive and not just become static. Hi jools as you know I’m one of the most pessimistic on here but am reliably told good news coming our week early may possibly after last game unfortunately I will be off sunning myself so won’t be there but good source so maybe have a few sangrias to celebrate chin up mate maybe times are a changing UTG If there's a rumour then it's made up, and the source is probably the same person who feeds Knowall. These owners don't do leaks. Anybody who has been paying any attention at all for the last 3 years should have worked that out by now.
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Post by badbloodash on Apr 28, 2019 17:12:10 GMT
Hi jools as you know I’m one of the most pessimistic on here but am reliably told good news coming our week early may possibly after last game unfortunately I will be off sunning myself so won’t be there but good source so maybe have a few sangrias to celebrate chin up mate maybe times are a changing UTG If there's a rumour then it's made up, and the source is probably the same person who feeds Knowall. These owners don't do leaks. Anybody who has been paying any attention at all for the last 3 years should have worked that out by now. Hope you own a big spoon lots of humble pie to eat soon mucker
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Post by dido on Apr 28, 2019 17:41:27 GMT
Equally, hope you have a spoon at hand, badblood.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2019 18:13:35 GMT
If there's a rumour then it's made up, and the source is probably the same person who feeds Knowall. These owners don't do leaks. Anybody who has been paying any attention at all for the last 3 years should have worked that out by now. Hope you own a big spoon lots of humble pie to eat soon mucker Here we go, someone sounds butthurt. I haven't said that the club won't change hands as clearly, inevitably, one day it will. OK, if it's true and about to happen just give details. Don't be one of those people who suggest something to try to make themselves look important (this thread is 7 months old now, sooner or later something will happen) and then when eventually some shares change hands pretend that they knew everything all along. If you don't give details then it's fair to assume that you are just guessing or it's more beer talk and if anything does transpire then it's nothing more than coincidence. So come on, let's have the details, then we'll all know that you are to be taken seriously.
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Post by laughinggas on Apr 28, 2019 18:27:09 GMT
When he took over GC played the internal lines. We have a training ground, as long as we have grass........ Love the Mem, great ground.
Impression being playing the company song....
Last week he said good news re off the pitch... not yet he thing he would say if takeover.
So what could it be? New ground update? Training ground update? Increased budget? New income streams?
No idea.
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Post by trymer on Apr 28, 2019 19:00:02 GMT
Hi jools as you know I’m one of the most pessimistic on here but am reliably told good news coming our week early may possibly after last game unfortunately I will be off sunning myself so won’t be there but good source so maybe have a few sangrias to celebrate chin up mate maybe times are a changing UTG If there's a rumour then it's made up, and the source is probably the same person who feeds Knowall. These owners don't do leaks. Anybody who has been paying any attention at all for the last 3 years should have worked that out by now. These owners don't do leaks.....hold on I seem to remember old Hamer doing a midnight interview after the UWE isn't happening leak !
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Post by trymer on Apr 28, 2019 19:08:37 GMT
Hope you own a big spoon lots of humble pie to eat soon mucker Here we go, someone sounds butthurt. I haven't said that the club won't change hands as clearly, inevitably, one day it will. OK, if it's true and about to happen just give details. Don't be one of those people who suggest something to try to make themselves look important (this thread is 7 months old now, sooner or later something will happen) and then when eventually some shares change hands pretend that they knew everything all along. If you don't give details then it's fair to assume that you are just guessing or it's more beer talk and if anything does transpire then it's nothing more than coincidence. So come on, let's have the details, then we'll all know that you are to be taken seriously. Thank you for making my weekend complete...Rovers staying up....city f****** up and you suggesting that Ash*** needs to give YOU some information to be taken "seriously" on some internet forum...thank you so much f****** hilarious.
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Post by trymer on Apr 28, 2019 19:10:23 GMT
Personally I will believe it when I see it. We have already had enough of smoke & mirrors plus lots of other things that just do not add up. It’s all well & good talking of sustainability but we had several of these experts come and go and Cunnah left as he knew he would not be able to work to his remit. Can we be sustainable with ever increasing losses then ? i know you mean well but I just don’t buy it. Any faith I may have had, has been eroded and I am totally disabused the our current owners will bring us anything but struggle and, like DC said, be a yo-yo club between L1 and 2, as we currently are. My hope is that we do get bought out or that major investment is coming. After all, the family are investment bankers, so why not allow others to invest ? I know what I think is true & have major reservations about but we shall see. I obviously would love to be proved wrong as I am a supporter and want the club to thrive and not just become static. Hi jools as you know I’m one of the most pessimistic on here but am reliably told good news coming our week early may possibly after last game unfortunately I will be off sunning myself so won’t be there but good source so maybe have a few sangrias to celebrate chin up mate maybe times are a changing UTG Have a good holiday mate,lets hope for better times for the Rovers.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2019 19:11:07 GMT
If there's a rumour then it's made up, and the source is probably the same person who feeds Knowall. These owners don't do leaks. Anybody who has been paying any attention at all for the last 3 years should have worked that out by now. These owners don't do leaks.....hold on I seem to remember old Hamer doing a midnight interview after the UWE isn't happening leak ! Exactly, after the story boke, the leak didn't come from the owners. Hence the contradictory rubbish that Crazy Steve and Wael were talking in the immediate aftermath. Anyway, pop the kettle on and get comfy, Badbloodash says that I'm wrong and that's good enough for me, he's about to tell us who the next owners are. He's not going to wait until after the event and then pretend that he knew all along, he would just look daft doing that. I'm quite excited.
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Post by badbloodash on Apr 29, 2019 9:39:07 GMT
These owners don't do leaks.....hold on I seem to remember old Hamer doing a midnight interview after the UWE isn't happening leak ! Exactly, after the story boke, the leak didn't come from the owners. Hence the contradictory rubbish that Crazy Steve and Wael were talking in the immediate aftermath. Anyway, pop the kettle on and get comfy, Badbloodash says that I'm wrong and that's good enough for me, he's about to tell us who the next owners are. He's not going to wait until after the event and then pretend that he knew all along, he would just look daft doing that. I'm quite excited. Listen mate I was replying to kingswood polak post I’ve known him 40 years and he’s had a bad time over a long period health wise so I was trying to cheer him up I’m not going to divulge who told me or what they said but two different sources both well connected with previous for good info and this has not come from present owners but an external source I’m quite happy to wait without saying anything I’ve been waiting 50 years for some good news so a few more weeks won’t kill me anyway UTG
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