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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 24, 2019 16:23:28 GMT
To misquote Dustin Hoffman, 'is it safe yet?' Not only is it a misquote, it wasn't even him saying it, it was a question being asked of him, I think? The line was delivered many times by Larry Olivier in snickers man (!). Classic! |
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Post by a more piratey game on Apr 24, 2019 16:26:04 GMT
Not only is it a misquote, it wasn't even him saying it, it was a question being asked of him, I think? The line was delivered many times by Larry Olivier in snickers man (!). Classic! I doff my theatrical cap Sir! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2019 16:58:40 GMT
Not only is it a misquote, it wasn't even him saying it, it was a question being asked of him, I think? The line was delivered many times by Larry Olivier in snickers man (!). Classic! Sets your teeth all on edge just thinking about it. Poor bloke didn't even understand the question! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2019 18:13:30 GMT
I heard that a cat in a hat would turn up and produce an improbable but somehow life size fold out stadium from a briefcase. My source within the club, whose confidence I cannot break by naming, has confirmed this. Forget all this confidentiality stuff, Wael made it clear that it's not important any more when he started talking about specific terms contract terms with UWE. |
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Post by a more piratey game on Apr 25, 2019 17:20:52 GMT
knowall's getting a bit antsy again.....'I think everyone knows who is the problem - we have given him time and courtesy - he needs to go and hand over to someone who has the vision, the contacts, and the motivation to take our Club forward. Will he? I hope so.'
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Post by bondigas on Apr 25, 2019 21:17:51 GMT
You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time. But you cannot fool all the people all the time.
Knowall is right, we have all had enough of the broken promises, time to go your locker is empty.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2019 21:29:15 GMT
Only worth bothering having new owners if they have big money,otherwise a complete and utter waste of time.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 26, 2019 10:13:29 GMT
Only worth bothering having new owners if they have big money,otherwise a complete and utter waste of time. This is spot on. No point in a change if the new people are not going to invest |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2019 10:22:32 GMT
Only worth bothering having new owners if they have big money,otherwise a complete and utter waste of time. This is spot on. No point in a change if the new people are not going to invest Agree to an extent but there's a lot to be said about having owners that seek to push forward change, the whole outlook of the club needs a shake up. While we'd all love someone to come in and bang £50m+ on a training ground and stadium, realistically that's not going to happen. A coherent plan of what is needed and how to achieve it within a reasonable time scale would be nice. It took Preston 14 years from start to finish to redevelop Deepdale. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 26, 2019 10:24:27 GMT
This is spot on. No point in a change if the new people are not going to invest Agree to an extent but there's a lot to be said about having owners that seek to push forward change, the whole outlook of the club needs a shake up. While we'd all love someone to come in and bang £50m+ on a training ground and stadium, realistically that's not going to happen. A coherent plan of what is needed and how to achieve it within a reasonable time scale would be nice. It took Preston 14 years from start to finish to redevelop Deepdale. That’s fair comment |
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Post by a more piratey game on Apr 26, 2019 10:26:14 GMT
Agree to an extent but there's a lot to be said about having owners that seek to push forward change I think the AQs brought that at the beginning - I was really impressed by the 'new thinking'. It seems to have hit the buffers though |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2019 10:30:37 GMT
Agree to an extent but there's a lot to be said about having owners that seek to push forward change I think the AQs brought that at the beginning - I was really impressed by the 'new thinking'. It seems to have hit the buffers though It was just buzzwords wrapped in hyperbole, similar to the kid in school who's definitely had a girlfriend but she went to another school. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Apr 26, 2019 10:42:55 GMT
This is spot on. No point in a change if the new people are not going to invest Agree to an extent but there's a lot to be said about having owners that seek to push forward change, the whole outlook of the club needs a shake up. While we'd all love someone to come in and bang £50m+ on a training ground and stadium, realistically that's not going to happen. A coherent plan of what is needed and how to achieve it within a reasonable time scale would be nice. It took Preston 14 years from start to finish to redevelop Deepdale. Not being funny, but is that not these owners have done?? Improved coaching set up, set up a development squad, signed loads of new partners, doubled our sponsorship deals, raised the budget every season because of the changes. Improved shops and bars, won awards for our marketing campaign. Hired a head of recruitment, improved back room staff including medical team. It's the ground and training facilities that they have not provided yet, which we need long term. So if someone takes over who is not going to improve that, what are they going to do that is so different??? |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 26, 2019 10:47:11 GMT
Agree to an extent but there's a lot to be said about having owners that seek to push forward change, the whole outlook of the club needs a shake up. While we'd all love someone to come in and bang £50m+ on a training ground and stadium, realistically that's not going to happen. A coherent plan of what is needed and how to achieve it within a reasonable time scale would be nice. It took Preston 14 years from start to finish to redevelop Deepdale. Not being funny, but is that not these owners have done?? Improved coaching set up, set up a development squad, signed loads of new partners, doubled our sponsorship deals, raised the budget every season because of the changes. Improved shops and bars, won awards for our marketing campaign. Hired a head of recruitment, improved back room staff including medical team. It's the ground and training facilities that they have not provided yet, which we need long term. So if someone takes over who is not going to improve that, what are they going to do that is so different??? The most important part starts with the team playing well. It’s all well and good pointing out what you have but at what cost ? We have seen these experts come and go but any successful club starts with a decent team and I’d like to see the team improved and invested in, just my opinion |
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Post by a more piratey game on Apr 26, 2019 10:49:57 GMT
Agree to an extent but there's a lot to be said about having owners that seek to push forward change, the whole outlook of the club needs a shake up. While we'd all love someone to come in and bang £50m+ on a training ground and stadium, realistically that's not going to happen. A coherent plan of what is needed and how to achieve it within a reasonable time scale would be nice. It took Preston 14 years from start to finish to redevelop Deepdale. Not being funny, but is that not these owners have done?? Improved coaching set up, set up a development squad, signed loads of new partners, doubled our sponsorship deals, raised the budget every season because of the changes. Improved shops and bars, won awards for our marketing campaign. Hired a head of recruitment, improved back room staff including medical team. It's the ground and training facilities that they have not provided yet, which we need long term. So if someone takes over who is not going to improve that, what are they going to do that is so different??? that's pretty much how I see it. But the leadership waffle hasn't helped at all |
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Post by daniel300380 on Apr 26, 2019 11:09:24 GMT
Not being funny, but is that not these owners have done?? Improved coaching set up, set up a development squad, signed loads of new partners, doubled our sponsorship deals, raised the budget every season because of the changes. Improved shops and bars, won awards for our marketing campaign. Hired a head of recruitment, improved back room staff including medical team. It's the ground and training facilities that they have not provided yet, which we need long term. So if someone takes over who is not going to improve that, what are they going to do that is so different??? The most important part starts with the team playing well. It’s all well and good pointing out what you have but at what cost ? We have seen these experts come and go but any successful club starts with a decent team and I’d like to see the team improved and invested in, just my opinion We are at the limit for playing wage budget already. So without someone investing extra money, we won't be better off. It's only as high as it is, because of the changes. They don't pick the player's we sign. I've been told that next season GC has decided to use mainly our own youth player's, for the development squad. So he can put more info the first team squad. He's going for quantity over quality. Even simple things like electronic advertising is brining in more money. The big screen more, once it's finally working! So they are raising the budget the right way and making it sustainable. So unless someone has money to burn, we will be worse off. |
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Post by Igitur on Apr 26, 2019 11:11:43 GMT
Not being funny, but is that not these owners have done?? Improved coaching set up, set up a development squad, signed loads of new partners, doubled our sponsorship deals, raised the budget every season because of the changes. Improved shops and bars, won awards for our marketing campaign. Hired a head of recruitment, improved back room staff including medical team. It's the ground and training facilities that they have not provided yet, which we need long term. So if someone takes over who is not going to improve that, what are they going to do that is so different??? that's pretty much how I see it. But the leadership waffle hasn't helped at all Can't disagree too much with daniel and AMPG, but I have been rather irked by the lack of identification in the Supporters Bar, I have not commented as there have been improvements, but there is not a single piece of evidence in the bar to show it is Rovers. There are no photographs, prints, shirts, the pirate model (now in the shop) etc etc and it is rather sterile. Our next opponents have a great bar with loads on decorations and pictures. |
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Post by a more piratey game on Apr 26, 2019 11:24:03 GMT
that's pretty much how I see it. But the leadership waffle hasn't helped at all Can't disagree too much with daniel and AMPG, but I have been rather irked by the lack of identification in the Supporters Bar, I have not commented as there have been improvements, but there is not a single piece of evidence in the bar to show it is Rovers. There are no photographs, prints, shirts, the pirate model (now in the shop) etc etc and it is rather sterile. Our next opponents have a great bar with loads on decorations and pictures. good point - especially as it was promised quite some time ago (like one or two other things) |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2019 11:38:33 GMT
Agree to an extent but there's a lot to be said about having owners that seek to push forward change, the whole outlook of the club needs a shake up. While we'd all love someone to come in and bang £50m+ on a training ground and stadium, realistically that's not going to happen. A coherent plan of what is needed and how to achieve it within a reasonable time scale would be nice. It took Preston 14 years from start to finish to redevelop Deepdale. Not being funny, but is that not these owners have done?? Improved coaching set up, set up a development squad, signed loads of new partners, doubled our sponsorship deals, raised the budget every season because of the changes. Improved shops and bars, won awards for our marketing campaign. Hired a head of recruitment, improved back room staff including medical team. It's the ground and training facilities that they have not provided yet, which we need long term. So if someone takes over who is not going to improve that, what are they going to do that is so different??? You need to pop along to a race circuit on an open day and see the dreamers who turn up in their cars that they have wasted money preparing having read a book about how to do it, they always get their arses handed to them on a plate by people driving lower spec cars that cost a lot less but with competent drivers. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2019 12:00:29 GMT
Agree to an extent but there's a lot to be said about having owners that seek to push forward change, the whole outlook of the club needs a shake up. While we'd all love someone to come in and bang £50m+ on a training ground and stadium, realistically that's not going to happen. A coherent plan of what is needed and how to achieve it within a reasonable time scale would be nice. It took Preston 14 years from start to finish to redevelop Deepdale. Not being funny, but is that not these owners have done?? Improved coaching set up, set up a development squad, signed loads of new partners, doubled our sponsorship deals, raised the budget every season because of the changes. Improved shops and bars, won awards for our marketing campaign. Hired a head of recruitment, improved back room staff including medical team. It's the ground and training facilities that they have not provided yet, which we need long term. So if someone takes over who is not going to improve that, what are they going to do that is so different??? "A coherent plan of what is needed and how to achieve it within a reasonable time scale would be nice" is the sentence that stood out in my post.
There has been investments in staffing but the club is still haemorrhaging money. Without a significant change in the way the club is run it will continue doing so. There is no doubt the AQ's have put their hands into their pockets but you can certainly question the way they're running the club and how long they'll be willing to do so.
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