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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 4, 2018 15:13:20 GMT
You got a favourite brand of fizz Vertigo? By Halloween we hoped the news would come, confirming Gaschat prophets' words on here, consortia were rumoured to emerge containing certain (ex) directors' names. Including Higgs as one did say, which would, of course, be unacceptable to some. But both October and debate went on without announcement, good or bad, no sign due diligence was undertaken, none! Perhaps some new investors changed their minds, or maybe something's happened after all, but could it not be true - the news was fake? Whatever else it might be, he must know, our vaughan must buy champagne for @vertigo . I wish there was a million likes button. Very well done @shoveler Chapeau Sir, absolutely stonking piece is that. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 4, 2018 15:41:38 GMT
Never in the field of human dialogue was so much written [cr@p] by so many about so little [facts]. (No offence intended to remembrance) You're wrong there Sir! www.gaschat.co.uk/thread/12954/takeoverBloody hell, ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY PAGES. Surely this has to set some kind of forum record ? Oh, hang on, the 82 had over 600 pages on the topic NL Bristol Rovers 😂. You would think they would be revelling in all the brilliant stuff they have been blessed with, rather than obscess on little old us eh eppinggas |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 15:52:41 GMT
Always confused about why people's faith should be immune from honest and fair criticism. Point me towards something said that isn't true and I'll retract it and apologise. If at all interested in my opinion, I feel no need to take anything from people that gives them comfort. I was watching room 101 just a couple of days ago, in hospital and I think it was Russel Howard who brought up the topic of celebrity atheists & although not keen on him, he made a very good argument on how it’s the in thing to be atheist now & many will follow those such as Ricky Gervais, just because he seems to not be able to contain him selves. Its been my experience that when I’ve been to the favelas in Brasil or in then communist Poland, all they cling to is god. Whether you believe or not, would you take that small crumb of hope from them ? Serious question. If you like reading history, as I do, then it can be argued that the voting to have a Polish pope plus a very determined resistance in Poland, actually ended communism in the Eastern bloc countries. Ok, so I’m not down with da youf & I try not to take anything away from someone who gets some respite & comfort from their beliefs. I reaaly believe that there comes a time where we really do need to put ourselves in the others position and then see if you would do & act in the same manner. Thats it, I’m done with this now but I sincerely hope we can ramp it down on this, live & let live I say. As my dearly departed Brother, Henry used to say, in a scouse accent, far out & solid man, far out and solid 😂😢😢. I miss my family so much. Happy to go over the points you make. Should we do this via PM? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 16:22:05 GMT
Sorry but that is bad taste, especially to some of us that have served in that area! in fact even as admin I will go further, you are a prize one PR*ck! Don't bother trying to report the post I am out of here. Agree entirely. What I don’t get is chewie has an extremely good footballing knowledge but seems to enjoy having digs and just not being aware, at times. He/she has good insight but that post belongs on a55 chat & not here , just my opinion of course BZ @oxon. the post has not been deleted though Also worth noting it was young Michael being a divvy here. I look forward to the forthcoming apology. 😊 |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 4, 2018 16:45:47 GMT
You mean to tell us that you are watching this dross without the aid of acoholic stimulus,what tablets are you on After 4 years of exiting winning football at home games im prepared to put up with the current run of poor form,though after games i usually celebrate or drown my sorrows at shirehampton fc near my home. I and the guy I go with have been getting away from the area as soon as the final whistle blows and we then go local but try different pubs along the way and we have met some very interesting people plus the bonus of some simply scrumptious ladies. We were actually in the Royal Oak before what the last night home game and I got chatting to probably the most naturally stunning bar maid I’ve had the pleasure to have a decent chat with. I was gutted to have to go to the game and I’ve been back a few times but not seen her. It makes good sense doing what you do. Stay within a quick taxi ride or walking distance to home. Good on you |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 4, 2018 16:48:35 GMT
Very much a Bristolian word, if I'm not mistaken, particularly of the 70s & 80s. Although, I was sure it was spelled gitter, with a soft 'g' … if you get my gist. " Look at 'ee, that greasy-long-haired gitter in the Status Quo denim jacket." Our family always used the term greasers rather than that un. Greebo was for football and I never said it around big Bob, people don’t realise that he used to be a big old unit in those days. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 4, 2018 16:49:45 GMT
Hippy and Jitter meant the same thing,that Patchouli oil that they used to wear we called Jitter juice,stinking stuff it was too. Hippies and Jitters were classed as Hairy's,anyone with hair over their ears and worse still a beard was a Hairy then,I suppose they are called a Crusty now. More like hipster. The Glos Rd is full of em |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 4, 2018 16:53:35 GMT
I see Mark Brimson tweeted about the 82 being run by a sexual deviant and this has got a lot of their lot really quite sick. Does anyone know any more of this please ? Barn @barnbcfc · 31 Oct Had to unfollow the @bristolcity account considering an actual sexual deviant is running it at present. I urge you all to do the same. That reads as it's the person who runs that account not the club? I still have no idea as it seems none of my 82 mates want to talk about it but I did feel them feeling very uneasy when asked. I guess that, if true, another bad person seems to have this covered up and that’s a bad thing, as I see it |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 4, 2018 16:55:18 GMT
Does it really matter to you then ? I find it a shame that we can all become childish as adults. Sometimes it’s a good thing to keep the child within, well & happy but sometimes there is a time to say nothing. Just my opinion of course. I hope you have had a good weekend. Rovers win and 82 lose..... again. Now that’s my kind of happy, just wish it happened more often Anyway, play offs, anyone ? 😂✔️ Whoosh. That’s the joke going over your head. Sorry mucker. I’m feeling a lot of pain so I guess I’m a touch overly sensitive. Note to self, read the entire thread BEFORE posting. My sincere apologies |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 4, 2018 16:56:58 GMT
By Halloween we hoped the news would come, confirming Gaschat prophets' words on here, consortia were rumoured to emerge containing certain (ex) directors' names. Including Higgs as one did say, which would, of course, be unacceptable to some. But both October and debate went on without announcement, good or bad, no sign due diligence was undertaken, none! Perhaps some new investors changed their minds, or maybe something's happened after all, but could it not be true - the news was fake? Whatever else it might be, he must know, our vaughan must buy champagne for @vertigo . I wish there was a million likes button. Very well done @shoveler Chapeau Sir, absolutely stonking piece is that. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 4, 2018 16:58:49 GMT
Agree entirely. What I don’t get is chewie has an extremely good footballing knowledge but seems to enjoy having digs and just not being aware, at times. He/she has good insight but that post belongs on a55 chat & not here , just my opinion of course BZ @oxon. the post has not been deleted though Also worth noting it was young Michael being a divvy here. I look forward to the forthcoming apology. 😊 As always, I do apologise when I’m proved wrong. I have no feelings of weakness in apologising. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 4, 2018 17:03:34 GMT
I once had a full 3 course meal and left without paying, when Carlo was there. It’s not a story for here but let’s just say my brother did a 5 stretch due to him. I was young and definitely too young to know fear. I now realise how it could have turned out. I wish I could say more but it’s a criminal tale so best not got into on here I once left a pub without paying for two meals. Was an accident and went back the next day to pay. Was rather embarrassed and they knew as soon as I came in. I am too honest for my own good. 😇 Never such a thing as being too honest. My belief is that everything balances itself out over sometimes very long periods. I had two tyres stabbed in the side walls last week and it cost me a lot more than money, if you get my drift. What I did was an act of retribution or the closest my callow mind could come up with. I was looking for trouble but I made myself known and who my brother was & was told, ok fine, just do not show your face in here again. It seems I got very lucky |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 4, 2018 17:05:28 GMT
I go on different threads on here and read about catholics,snowflakes?,unknown sexual deviants,jacob reese-mogg,leaving restaurants without paying,the firetto family. What is all this utter rubbish about? Ummm, utter rubbish it would seem 😂 |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 4, 2018 17:21:29 GMT
If at all interested in my opinion, I feel no need to take anything from people that gives them comfort. I was watching room 101 just a couple of days ago, in hospital and I think it was Russel Howard who brought up the topic of celebrity atheists & although not keen on him, he made a very good argument on how it’s the in thing to be atheist now & many will follow those such as Ricky Gervais, just because he seems to not be able to contain him selves. Its been my experience that when I’ve been to the favelas in Brasil or in then communist Poland, all they cling to is god. Whether you believe or not, would you take that small crumb of hope from them ? Serious question. If you like reading history, as I do, then it can be argued that the voting to have a Polish pope plus a very determined resistance in Poland, actually ended communism in the Eastern bloc countries. Ok, so I’m not down with da youf & I try not to take anything away from someone who gets some respite & comfort from their beliefs. I reaaly believe that there comes a time where we really do need to put ourselves in the others position and then see if you would do & act in the same manner. Thats it, I’m done with this now but I sincerely hope we can ramp it down on this, live & let live I say. As my dearly departed Brother, Henry used to say, in a scouse accent, far out & solid man, far out and solid 😂😢😢. I miss my family so much. Happy to go over the points you make. Should we do this via PM? If you like. Always open to sensible debate & exchange of views. We only learn from mistakes but I’ve certainly witnessed, up close & personal, how belief has kept people alive where I very much doubt they would have survived without. The Catholic Church is guilty of some really appalling crimes & I do not hide from that but not all catholic’s are deviants. I wish I could have introduced many to father Zygmunt or Father Michael. There is a line in an old Tony Joe White song called backwoods preacher man. It goes “ when you hear him talk about Jesus, you’ll know their the best of friends just one look & you can tell he would give the Devil hell, trying to do the best he can. Both were drinkers and heavy smokers and both were relieved of their duties. Seem the Catholic Church rather like money over faith & community. please feel welcome to pm me. I have always found you both honest and easy to correspond with. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 4, 2018 17:28:59 GMT
Also worth noting it was young Michael being a divvy here. I look forward to the forthcoming apology. 😊 As always, I do apologise when I’m proved wrong. I have no feelings of weakness in apologising. Sorry as I obviously didn’t see the relevant post. Again, you have my sincere apologies |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 18:16:40 GMT
Also worth noting it was young Michael being a divvy here. I look forward to the forthcoming apology. 😊 As always, I do apologise when I’m proved wrong. I have no feelings of weakness in apologising. UTG |
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Post by a more piratey game on Nov 5, 2018 17:56:22 GMT
so, to check my understanding of the theory above; the AQs paid £7.2m, plus say £1m for former owners' loans - £8.2m, and got a bit of land with a valuation of £11.1m for their money plus a football club. That's a £2.9m 'profit' this looks like a super deal, until you add in the 'negative earnings' of, say, £1.5m a year. That wipes out the profit in a couple of years (ie now!) but....the land will be going up in value - firstly with inflation (say £300k pa), and then with a 'revaluation windfall' if it is revalued with planning permission a further uptick is possible if the club gets revalued - eg by promotion, or if someone else wants to buy it the AQs are now not looking to be long-term controlling owners, but looking for a 'financial fix' which will save face, and keep Wael in football they have found some willing partners, and are just stalling over price the new partners reckon that the longer they wait, the greater the strain on AQ finances, and the greater the noise from fans (and maybe hit to Wael's reputation) the AQs reckon they can hold out as long as is required, and that the asset they are selling is in some way maybe uniquely interesting to the new partners - so they need to pay what is required to get what they want Thinking about it, it seems to me that the AQs are as stumped and out of options as the previous owners - unless they can find an alternative buyer/investor if they can't, they'll continue losing money week-to-week until something crystallises. And doubtless their response at some stage, like that of the previous lot, will be to minimize spending it it must be frustrating for DC and 'the football side of the club' to have to wait while all this plays out. Without even a lawnmower at the Colony so....is something still afoot? I'm thinking that..... - there was no smoke without fire
- due diligence on a simple business like BRFC shouldn't take very long at all
- if they are haggling over price, we could be here for a very long time
- if they are looking at construction plans or something non-BRFC like that, it might be still in the works
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 18:10:25 GMT
Thinking about it, it seems to me that the AQs are as stumped and out of options as the previous owners - unless they can find an alternative buyer/investor if they can't, they'll continue losing money week-to-week until something crystallises. And doubtless their response at some stage, like that of the previous lot, will be to minimize spending it it must be frustrating for DC and 'the football side of the club' to have to wait while all this plays out. Without even a lawnmower at the Colony so....is something still afoot? I'm thinking that..... - there was no smoke without fire
- due diligence on a simple business like BRFC shouldn't take very long at all
- if they are haggling over price, we could be here for a very long time
- if they are looking at construction plans or something non-BRFC like that, it might be still in the works
any thoughts, anyone? Well, the second point, the current incumbents didn't even bother with it...
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Post by Cheshiregas on Nov 6, 2018 9:52:14 GMT
so....is something still afoot? I'm thinking that..... - there was no smoke without fire
- due diligence on a simple business like BRFC shouldn't take very long at all
- if they are haggling over price, we could be here for a very long time
- if they are looking at construction plans or something non-BRFC like that, it might be still in the works
any thoughts, anyone? Well, the second point, the current incumbents didn't even bother with it...
Well if you know for a 100% fact that the AQs didn't carry out due diligence then they deserve all they get. As owners of a banking institution I would be astounded if that is true as the first thing they would have done in a takeover situation is perform due diligence. It's what banks and corporates do. On the other hand if they did do dd and the answers they were given led them to believe the situation was different then that is a different matter. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 9:59:53 GMT
Well, the second point, the current incumbents didn't even bother with it...
Well if you know for a 100% fact that the AQs didn't carry out due diligence then they deserve all they get. As owners of a banking institution I would be astounded if that is true as the first thing they would have done in a takeover situation is perform due diligence. It's what banks and corporates do. On the other hand if they did do dd and the answers they were given led them to believe the situation was different then that is a different matter. If you listen to Steve Hamer they were surprised that an 8 million training facility cost 8 million instead of 2. I've learned in life that you can give people far too much credit for knowing what they are doing based on reputation and I think this might be such a case especially when their reputation has been built on an enterprise that their father started rather than one that Wael and Hani built from the ground up themselves. |
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