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Post by matealotblue on Jul 1, 2014 20:39:31 GMT
Just another random thought. There was an article in the news the other day that said Tesco's were sitting on land that could provide enough space for 15,000 houses in a "land bank" that they could use in some future date. I assume that the other big supermarkets do something similar so maybe Sainsbury are not necessarily in a hurry to actually build but would be happy to purchase the land for future use. So it may be the reason for dragging their heels. No idea if this is the case but just putting it forward as a reason (possibly).
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Post by Curly Wurly on Jul 1, 2014 21:46:48 GMT
1. Sainsbury's new CEO Mike Coupe has just taken over from Justin King (last Friday I think). My mistake. King hands over to Coupe on 9th July. It is perhaps understandable that an organisation slows up in the "lame duck" phase. I would hope that Coupe takes the tiller and Sainsbury's push ahead. I am not confident now and I cannot for the life of me understand what these cross-party MPs want to achieve with this open letter. It might serve them, but I cannot see how embarrassing Sainsbury's like this, helps in any way. Surely this should be done behind closed doors. Possibly it has and this is the last throw of the dice.
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Post by frenchgashead on Jul 2, 2014 6:05:02 GMT
My guess is that NH has got wind of second thoughts by Sainsbury's and has asked his local MP contacts to do something as a last minute bid to try and preserve the project. I don't see the MPs doing this for no reason and their letter is well written and trying to drag in the wider community. I think this probably looks like the end of the UWE - Sainsbury's will pay little attention to the MPs when their profits are at stake.
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Post by jozer on Jul 2, 2014 6:16:55 GMT
Exactly. Why are these MPs writing to Sainsbury,when they could of asked Nick Higgs? It seems to me Nick Higgs doesn't know what's happening either. Like 100% of the people on this forum yet we get so much negative speculation and lies I think people on here just like chewing the fat and spiting out any old crud about our BoD and yes i don't have a F ing clue what is going on, all i know is what my planning committee friends tell me which is as far as they know there is no reason to not proceed as plannedBut that's not the issue now, is it? Now it's about the finance, and whether Sainsurys still want to purchase the Mem'. By the way, do we know for a fact that Sainsbury's have to pay compensation if they pull out?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 6:19:40 GMT
Talking to my planning friends last night about this situation and he let slip the Sainsbury have requested pre planning application consultations on 2 Sainsbury Locals in Bristol..... just wondered if they are trying to put pressure on BCC to allow these...
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Post by jozer on Jul 2, 2014 6:37:24 GMT
In hindsight the whole TRASH/EH delay stinks a bit.
NH is supposed to be a master of the building trade, and yet we are expected to believe that he was completely suprised to find out that a few determined individuals could hold up a project for months with objections that are obvious bollocks.
I know this from personal experience of my late parents having their retirement build held up for just over a year by a bollocks objection that was chucked out in 5 minutes when it eventually got to the final hearing.
He also makes silly statements about Progress in Bristol being held to ransom etc. Well he should know damn well that politics doesn't really come in to it at local level. The rules are set by the Govt' and there is very little room for interpretation on the ground.
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Post by Peter Parker on Jul 2, 2014 6:52:19 GMT
My guess is that NH has got wind of second thoughts by Sainsbury's and has asked his local MP contacts to do something as a last minute bid to try and preserve the project. I don't see the MPs doing this for no reason and their letter is well written and trying to drag in the wider community. I think this probably looks like the end of the UWE - Sainsbury's will pay little attention to the MPs when their profits are at stake. Sainsbury's will do what suits Sainsbury's. If it doesn't entail the Mem and they can get out of it for as little as possible, they will and no letter from MPs will make a difference
Sainsbury's might be trying to leverage something else, maybe not
This is all in the game though isn't it
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Post by jozer on Jul 2, 2014 7:01:16 GMT
BCC have little if any power to refuse permisision for two local stores on these grounds. Sainsburys could sue the **** out of them if they tried to refuse permission on dodgy grounds.
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Post by PeterHooper57 on Jul 2, 2014 7:03:43 GMT
If Sainsburys were going to stay in the Project then they would have released a statement as soon as the letter from the MPs had been received. The whole fiasco has been badly managed by the BOD, putting trust in place with Sainsburys without a fomal memorandum of understanding is a school boy error.
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Post by Captain Jayho on Jul 2, 2014 7:14:10 GMT
Wouldn't mind some clarification from our glorious leaders giving us some hint as to WTF is going on.
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Post by Northville Blue on Jul 2, 2014 7:27:12 GMT
Charlotte Leslie live on Radio Bristol a moment ago:
There are currently delays.
The club is quiet on the situation.
We understand that there are legal issues to be resolved.
Other things need to be talked through and worked out.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 7:39:59 GMT
If Sainsburys were going to stay in the Project then they would have released a statement as soon as the letter from the MPs had been received. The whole fiasco has been badly managed by the BOD, putting trust in place with Sainsburys without a fomal memorandum of understanding is a school boy error. Do you have evidence that there is NOT a formal memorandum of Understanding ?? If there is one, is this a sign the project is run very well ??
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 7:45:41 GMT
You mean that when the Bod stated that the stadium will go ahead despite relegation they knew that there were significant legal issues as yet unresolved? I find that incredible, it suggests that other than planning permission there was no real basis for believing that a binding contract was in place. House of Cards?
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Post by buckrippers on Jul 2, 2014 7:49:49 GMT
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 2, 2014 7:53:07 GMT
You mean that when the Bod stated that the stadium will go ahead despite relegation they knew that there were significant legal issues as yet unresolved? I find that incredible, it suggests that other than planning permission there was no real basis for believing that a binding contract was in place. House of Cards? Are they "signficant" legal issues or just legal issues, NH did say right at the start "contracts" had been agreed not just "agreements" reached. Not realy sure what the MP's are up to now, are they getting signs from NH that are problems at Sainsbury's end or as he just gone quiet on them, as perhaps he wants to delay the UWE himself??
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Post by PessimistGas on Jul 2, 2014 8:39:14 GMT
Charlotte Leslie live on Radio Bristol a moment ago: There are currently delays. The club is quiet on the situation. We understand that there are legal issues to be resolved. Other things need to be talked through and worked out. Could it be that Nick has stopped returning her calls?
It has been obvious that some big sh*t is going doing since after the JR result as Nick has tied himself in knots over timescales and pretending that everything is fine while becoming VERY shifty and evasive.
Echoes of Opal all over again.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 2, 2014 9:11:47 GMT
If Sainsburys were going to stay in the Project then they would have released a statement as soon as the letter from the MPs had been received. The whole fiasco has been badly managed by the BOD, putting trust in place with Sainsburys without a fomal memorandum of understanding is a school boy error. Sainsbury’s spokesman said: “Sainsbury’s and the club are under a commercially confidential contract and are therefore unable to issue a comment.” It's quiet on the topic because neither party are allowed to talk about it. If the club put this into the contract, I would have thought they would have made sure that the contracts made sure that Sainsburys couldn't walk away from the deal. The MP's know no more than us, they are just trying to sound good and get people on their side.
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Post by rovers2 on Jul 2, 2014 11:13:00 GMT
First question in PMQs was from Charlotte Leslie on the development asking the Prime Minister to help with Sainsburys.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 11:15:22 GMT
First question in PMQs was from Charlotte Leslie on the development asking the Prime Minister to help with Sainsburys. This country, f**king hell.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 12:07:49 GMT
You mean that when the Bod stated that the stadium will go ahead despite relegation they knew that there were significant legal issues as yet unresolved? I find that incredible, it suggests that other than planning permission there was no real basis for believing that a binding contract was in place. House of Cards? Are they "signficant" legal issues or just legal issues, NH did say right at the start "contracts" had been agreed not just "agreements" reached. Not realy sure what the MP's are up to now, are they getting signs from NH that are problems at Sainsbury's end or as he just gone quiet on them, as perhaps he wants to delay the UWE himself?? If they are not significant then why is taking so long to resolve them? Its a simple sense check
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