jozer
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Post by jozer on Jul 6, 2014 6:09:43 GMT
Henbury's inside information has always come from BCC, not BRFC, which is of little use in the current situation. The planning issues are done and dusted. The prolems now, whatver they are lie with BRFC & Sainsburys, and poor ol' Henbury is reduced to speculating with no more solid info' then me or you. Must be hard for him as he is used to talking with the backing of his contacts in the N.Bristol planning Dept'.
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Post by michaelb on Jul 6, 2014 7:21:35 GMT
Why is Sainsbury's Horfield not included in their promotional "Stores in Development" which includes sites/refurbishments that do not even have planning consent? Supermarkets -
Sainsbury’s is always looking at opportunities to bring new supermarkets to more communities around the country. Our supermarkets provide a range of our food products, and in our bigger stores homeware, electrical and our Tu clothing range. They generate employment and often provide a regeneration focus for areas of towns and cities. These pages show many of our proposals for new supermarkets around the country and keep you up to date with the latest news on their development. Stores in development South EastBishop’s Waltham Colchester Dagenham Edenbridge Godalming Greenwich Hook Nine Elms Olney Richmond Taplow Thanet Waterlooville Watford Dome Whitechapel South WestBath Cheddar Portishead Street Tewkesbury Wadebridge MidlandsGorleston Hamstead Huntingdon Market Drayton Northfield Oakham Shrewsbury Thrapston West Bridgford Whittlesey Wolverhampton ScotlandHaddington Perth South Ayr NorthAlsager Ambleside Barnsley Blackpool, Talbot Road Glasshoughton Kendal Liverpool, Rice Lane Southport York WalesHaverfordwest Mold Business strategyThe company's strategy centres around five areas of focus, which are underpinned our strong heritage and brand. Shirt by TU Introduce a siteWe are actively pursuing new sites to expand our convenience store portfolio across the UK. Help us to open new stores by introducing a site we are not yet aware of. www.j-sainsbury.co.uk/about-us/store-development/supermarkets/Oops! This does appear to be strong evidence that the project maybe in big trouble. Actually, it does say "many of our proposals" and not ALL
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Post by c4h10 on Jul 6, 2014 13:18:26 GMT
It seems to me that one of the biggest advantages to Sainsbury of the Mem site is the fact that it is positioned between two large Tesco stores, in an area where Sainsbury currently has little or no presence. With Tesco being the rival for supermarket supremacy, a chance to challenge them is surely too good to miss out on. Yes, they are cutting-back on large store development, but I think the Mem site would be one that they would hate to relinquish. This ain't Wadebridge.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 6, 2014 14:38:30 GMT
There's clearly some issue delaying the development as surely NH would respond to the MP's letter by dismissing they were problem if they aren't any? If it's not with Sainsbury's perhaps the problems at our end? Could it be one or more of the Directors no longer feels the UWE is viable?
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Post by gas2 on Jul 6, 2014 15:56:53 GMT
There's clearly some issue delaying the development as surely NH would respond to the MP's letter by dismissing they were problem if they aren't any? If it's not with Sainsbury's perhaps the problems at our end? Could it be one or more of the Directors no longer feels the UWE is viable? hence the 6 hour long board meetings I bet some want to go on for a new stadium and the others want to scrap the whole thing ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2014 16:23:20 GMT
I work in construction and have it on very good authority that the stadium plans have been scaled down in a couple of ways I.e. Removing scope for stadium expansion. This would cause a significant delay, and wouldn't the directors prefer any delays to be on sainsburys back?
The same people I hear news from say the stadium WILL go ahead
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2014 16:42:54 GMT
I work in construction and have it on very good authority that the stadium plans have been scaled down in a couple of ways I.e. Removing scope for stadium expansion. This would cause a significant delay, and wouldn't the directors prefer any delays to be on sainsburys back? The same people I hear news from say the stadium WILL go ahead One of my business colleagues has a commercial Kitchen business ( you know the stainless steel stuff) and he did the design for the UWE stadium and to date he has not been asked to change any of the designs
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Post by stevek192 on Jul 6, 2014 16:51:17 GMT
Any director who does not see that UWE offers us the only chance we are going to have to progress in any way is not worth his while being a Director. If their immediate ambition is (as it should be) to get back in the Football League at first attempt then it would be the idea scenario for building the stadium as you need to time it with the start of an upturn in fortunes. We are never going to get a better chance to perform an upturn than in the Conference. If we don't get the Stadium I see the death of the Football Club being not far away.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2014 16:52:15 GMT
I work in construction and have it on very good authority that the stadium plans have been scaled down in a couple of ways I.e. Removing scope for stadium expansion. This would cause a significant delay, and wouldn't the directors prefer any delays to be on sainsburys back? The same people I hear news from say the stadium WILL go ahead One of my business colleagues has a commercial Kitchen business ( you know the stainless steel stuff) and he did the design for the UWE stadium and to date he has not been asked to change any of the designs It'd be for stuff you won't see like substructure, ground reinforcements, pilling all scaled down saving probably £1 million. it'll be a budget stadium in ways but I couldn't care less as long as it goes ahead.
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Post by basel on Jul 6, 2014 18:08:50 GMT
One of my business colleagues has a commercial Kitchen business ( you know the stainless steel stuff) and he did the design for the UWE stadium and to date he has not been asked to change any of the designs It'd be for stuff you won't see like substructure, ground reinforcements, pilling all scaled down saving probably £1 million. it'll be a budget stadium in ways but I couldn't care less as long as it goes ahead. So,if in the future Rovers wanted to make the capacity from the 21,500 to 26,000 (or even 35,000 if we struck gold) this would mean knocking the whole thing down and starting again? Instead of the more relatively cheaper way (and original plans) of adding seats with the roof still on for the 26000 capactiy,or,taking the roof off and adding a whole new tier then putting the roof back on for the 35,000? To save a million or two now,but deny the club/UWE expansion at a later date sounds a mistake to me. It sounds ridiculous that the board can't get hold of an extra £1,000,000 or £2,000,000.Higgs is a multi millionaire eg and has mentioned investment coming if/when the UWE is built. For a project of £40,000,000,cutting corners on the build for the sake of £1,000,000 sounds a poor show and it looks as if the whole show could be beyond the people involved. Where's the real ambition.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2014 18:25:57 GMT
That list doesn't seem up todate as Sainsbury's have just announced they are starting work on 100 sq foot store in Selly Oak, Birmingham. In addition the Birmingham Northfield store must have been open well over 12 months. The fact Sainsbury's have announced they are pressing ahead with the Selly Oak store indicates they are still building large stores and that building new stores are not on hold pending the new chairman's arrival. Perhaps things will become clearer when Sainsbury's give their latest results update this week. A 100 square foot store? That's just just over 3 meters x 3 meters. Where does it say that they have started construction work on Selly Oak please. All I've seen is them talking about site services for a multi-building complex and the same sort of ground works that have just been shelved at Wadebridge?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2014 19:05:59 GMT
It'd be for stuff you won't see like substructure, ground reinforcements, pilling all scaled down saving probably £1 million. it'll be a budget stadium in ways but I couldn't care less as long as it goes ahead. So,if in the future Rovers wanted to make the capacity from the 21,500 to 26,000 (or even 35,000 if we struck gold) this would mean knocking the whole thing down and starting again? Instead of the more relatively cheaper way (and original plans) of adding seats with the roof still on for the 26000 capactiy,or,taking the roof off and adding a whole new tier then putting the roof back on for the 35,000? To save a million or two now,but deny the club/UWE expansion at a later date sounds a mistake to me. It sounds ridiculous that the board can't get hold of an extra £1,000,000 or £2,000,000.Higgs is a multi millionaire eg and has mentioned investment coming if/when the UWE is built. For a project of £40,000,000,cutting corners on the build for the sake of £1,000,000 sounds a poor show and it looks as if the whole show could be beyond the people involved. Where's the real ambition. they could always get a commercial mortgage........ plenty of equity in the UWE.....
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Post by mancgas has left the building on Jul 6, 2014 19:27:43 GMT
WadebridgeIt is with regret that Sainsbury's must make the following announcement about its planned Wadebridge store. We can confirm that work on our planned Wadebridge store will not be completed this year. Over the coming weeks we will complete site work and make the area safe and secure. We recently announced a small reduction in the number of new stores to be built in 2014 and have with regret decided not to progress plans.We are hugely appreciative of the support we have received from the community and understand this will be disappointing to many people. We will be reviewing our programme of new stores for future years and hope to be able to make an announcement about our plans for Wadebridge in the coming months. CORMAC’s highways works will continue and are not directly affected by this announcement. For further information, please do not hesitate to contact the community relations team. They can be contacted on 0800 130 3270 (09:00am to 5:30pm Monday to Friday) or by email: wadebridge@sainsburys.co.uk. For information regarding the road works, Cormac has a 24 hour freephone number which is 0300 1234 222. www.j-sainsbury.co.uk/about-us/store-development/supermarkets/south-west/wadebridge/ Wadebridge is nothing like Bristol and they have said they will still build large stores where it will help the community and where they can have houses etc with the store. nonsense, Wadebridge was effectively an enabling development, with firms bidding for ownership of football pitch on opposite side of road for housing development, using a road improvement scheme Sainsbury's and Council were jointly funding, and it was bringing 100s jobs and a much needed petrol station to a rural community with one firm holding motorists to randsom. The Council and Cormac officials confirmed privately they knew nothing of Sainsbury's pulling off site, workers contacting the Council after the site meeting confirming building was going to stop was the first they'd heard, although publically they say different as still trying to save site and commitments Sainsbury's made, but facing losses of hundreds of thousands if they do not. We were also getting Tesco's retaliating, with an extension to their Wadebridge store , more jobs and a petrol station meaning choice and competition. They've now put them on hold as the monopoly can continue at no cost to them.
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Post by mancgas has left the building on Jul 6, 2014 19:34:09 GMT
Isnt it this simple
MPs letter and PM questions have just heightened concerns
Football club continually hiding behind confidentiality
But absolutely nothing breaching confidentiality in Higgs just saying, all proceeding as expected, or few wrinkles to iron out.
Fact he isnt saying either to some speaks volumes in terms of s**t creak having been reached before paddles bought, but could simply be massively poor communications - again
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Post by Finnish Gas on Jul 6, 2014 19:40:30 GMT
That list doesn't seem up todate as Sainsbury's have just announced they are starting work on 100 sq foot store in Selly Oak, Birmingham. In addition the Birmingham Northfield store must have been open well over 12 months. The fact Sainsbury's have announced they are pressing ahead with the Selly Oak store indicates they are still building large stores and that building new stores are not on hold pending the new chairman's arrival. Perhaps things will become clearer when Sainsbury's give their latest results update this week. A 100 square foot store? That's just just over 3 meters x 3 meters. Where does it say that they have started construction work on Selly Oak please. All I've seen is them talking about site services for a multi-building complex and the same sort of ground works that have just been shelved at Wadebridge? On Monday 30th June, P.J Carey (Contractors) Ltd, part of The Carey Group, will start preparing the site for the first phase of remediation works. Timescales: 2014 - Start decontamination 2016 - Start on build 2017 - Completion sellyoak-regeneration.co.uk/
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 6, 2014 19:44:20 GMT
Isnt it this simple MPs letter and PM questions have just heightened concerns Football club continually hiding behind confidentiality But absolutely nothing breaching confidentiality in Higgs just saying, all proceeding as expected, or few wrinkles to iron out. Fact he isnt saying either to some speaks volumes in terms of s*** creak having been reached before paddles bought, but could simply be massively poor communications - again I know there was more to the scheme I wasn't suggesting there wasn't, however, one of your words summed up what I was impkying - rural! Although they would have been helping, there are nothing like the amount of people in Bristol and obviously they like to help when it helps there profits also!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2014 20:33:25 GMT
A 100 square foot store? That's just just over 3 meters x 3 meters. Where does it say that they have started construction work on Selly Oak please. All I've seen is them talking about site services for a multi-building complex and the same sort of ground works that have just been shelved at Wadebridge? On Monday 30th June, P.J Carey (Contractors) Ltd, part of The Carey Group, will start preparing the site for the first phase of remediation works. Timescales: 2014 - Start decontamination 2016 - Start on build 2017 - Completion sellyoak-regeneration.co.uk/Yes, that's what I had seen. Site preperation work for a large complex, none of the preperation work being done directly by Sainsbury's contractors. Work due to start on construction in 2 years time. In the present market, and given the multi-build nature of that site, it doesn't actually mean a great deal, and certainly doesn't mean enough to pin hopes of them breaking ground in BS7 any time soon on.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Jul 7, 2014 7:59:17 GMT
Isnt it this simple MPs letter and PM questions have just heightened concerns Football club continually hiding behind confidentiality But absolutely nothing breaching confidentiality in Higgs just saying, all proceeding as expected, or few wrinkles to iron out. Fact he isnt saying either to some speaks volumes in terms of s*** creak having been reached before paddles bought, but could simply be massively poor communications - again Perhaps it is just that everything is ok but NH feels he doesn't have to tell the Oiks anything at all. And even if it is going belly up what business is it of the fans? What have they contributed apart from £1million sharescheme, attending matches week in week out, buying season tickets, shirts, pasties etc etc What have fans ever done for BRFC?
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